Manuel and Harbaugh haven't spoken directly since May per Bacon
January 20th, 2023 at 12:07 PM ^
Had not heard of this - thank you for sharing.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:21 PM ^
This is true, but primarily because people who believe the Internet can be beneficial are in a frantic losing battle against bullshit.
Case in point: this thread.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:47 AM ^
Jim's guy calls Warde's guy, and that's how they do it.
If Warde has a guy that deals with coach’s agent, what exactly does Warde do here?
January 20th, 2023 at 11:54 AM ^
That's a terrible point of clarification from JUB when he started with "Manuel and Harbaugh have not spoken directly since May."
Someone was caught clickbaiting (tweet-baiting?)
January 20th, 2023 at 1:47 PM ^
Because he used the first one as click bait.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:01 AM ^
Now it makes sense that Jim wasn't sure if he was wanted in AA. Seems Warde may have made it look that way if he hasn't spoken directly to him in 6+ months. I figured at worst they were arguing and fighting behind closed doors, but it looks like their relationship is worse then we thought. Santa coming down the chimney with a special review for Warde.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:02 AM ^
If Schliss was still here Harbaugh would probably be gone.
Thank you Santa!
January 20th, 2023 at 11:11 AM ^
No doubt, MH.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:02 AM ^
What do you consider "spoken directly "? They never discussed anything in relation to incidents in the tunnel? This doesn't sound plausible. Warde has to get a better PR team. We only hear from Jim's PR team.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:14 PM ^
I find it hard to believe that JH and WM haven't talked directly about a response to the NCAA allegations either. The original JUB take doesn't pass the smell test, and the walk back probably doesn't go back far enough.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:04 AM ^
The more John says, the less he clearly knows. Kind of surprising for someone who works for the university and is viewed to be an insider. But he’s absolutely wrong here. Just like he’s been wrong quite a bit lately. Jim and Warde have talked numerous times. Maybe he worded it differently than he intended, but he’s absolutely wrong about them talking.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:13 AM ^
This is so true! JUB clearly is trying to get in limelight again. I guess his Bo stroking doesn’t hold up anymore
January 20th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^
Yeah… there’s a reason non-UM fans joke about him being an accredited message board blogger. His takes on Bo/Anderson weren’t great and he seemed butt hurt that he wasn’t consulted on the UM Board of Regents deciding to rename Yost because apparently he’s THE historian for UM who must be consulted? He’s a strange man
January 20th, 2023 at 11:26 AM ^
I agree he is definitely wrong here.
But in what capacity does he work for the university? I know he used to team a course on the history of college athletics, but I'm not sure he does that anymore.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:22 PM ^
JUB is not a reporter. He's a publicist.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:05 AM ^
I don't like kicking a guy when he's down but among other problems with Schlissel, not doing a performance review of the leader of one of the most prominent public faces of the university feels like dereliction of duty.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:29 AM ^
Well let's not conflate bathwater with bathwater here. There's the stuff you can kind of rinse off in, and then there's baby pee.
What I'm getting at is, if we assume JUB's claims are accurate, who here is a huge fan of performance reviews? Am I the only one who finds them tedious, farcical office politics? I'm no fan of Warde, but that's because he barely does anything. So the answer to that is. . . shove him into a meeting and pull some arbitrary metrics out of Schlissel's arse? What's he gonna ding him for, revenue? Didn't we already go through that nonsense with Dave Brandon running the AD like it's a business?
You certainly want vertical communication in an organization as complicated as the University of Michigan, and here's where I agree that Schlissel and Manuel are twits. But JUB's framing of the issues is bizarre. That Manuel and Harbaugh haven't spoken in months is most certainly inaccurate, and that two people in executive-type jobs didn't have a "let's sociopathically measure productivity in cogs per hour" session is the most nothingburger that nothingburger'ed so hard, the NCAA is busting Harbaugh over the tip.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:05 PM ^
Great point on metrics and reviews.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:06 AM ^
Sounds like BS to me.
They were seen together on multiple ocassions during the season, and I remember the tunnel incident, so I get things probably haven't been amicable between them for a while, but they for sure talk to each other.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:15 AM ^
There's video footage from just two months ago where Warde has his arm around Jim and they are talking and laughing.
These takes are getting desperate and have entered "Not believable" territory.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:24 AM ^
I know for certain they have talked face to face. As alluded, there's probably video of it. Also pretty reasonable to ascertain they spoke about the Mazi situation, since they issued statements together.
Perhaps Bacon misworded it - maybe they haven't talked about contracts?
January 20th, 2023 at 12:25 PM ^
Not sure why people are being so thickly literal here. Chatting on the sidelines, in front of cameras, does not amount to real conversation. How often do we see execs/coaches/GMS who loathe each other occasionally make nice in front of the media?
That said, Bacon is a putz.
January 22nd, 2023 at 11:19 AM ^
"spoken directly", he's full of shit.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:06 AM ^
wasn't there a video of Warde congratulating Harbaugh in the post game locker room in Columbus?
Thank god that Santa is going to hopefully clean up this dysfunction.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:11 AM ^
Listening to Michigan Insider podcast now. His exact words "they have basically not been talking since a bad conversation in May the ended up in shouting." He heard it from two sources. They've obviously had forced small talk on occasion.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:47 AM ^
I mean between the contract stuff, the NFL flirtations, the covid year crap, the NCAA shit, the NIL debacle, the transfer portal, and who knows what else, I'm sure they've had a lot of difficult conversations. I honestly could see both of them insufferable to deal with. It's nice to have a president who seems to be actively trying to fix the situation.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:08 AM ^
He's dead, Jim.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:10 AM ^
“As I stated in December, while no one knows what the future holds, I expect that I will be enthusiastically coaching Michigan in 2023. I have spoken with President Ono and Athletic Director Warde Manuel and appreciate their support of me and our program. Our mission as Wolverines continues, and we are preparing for the 2023 season with great passion and enthusiasm. As our legendary coach Bo Schembechler said, ‘Those Who Stay Will be Champions.'
Jim Harbaugh
JUB is full of shit
January 20th, 2023 at 11:25 AM ^
He lied about Burgers...the man cannot be trusted.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:12 AM ^
holy fucking shit...
January 20th, 2023 at 11:13 AM ^
There's literally video footage of them speaking this season and quite often. This is getting ridiculous.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:21 AM ^
i'll bite, do you have a link?
January 20th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^
Listen to Bacon here:
January 20th, 2023 at 11:16 AM ^
those are 2 absolutely damning bullet points
January 20th, 2023 at 11:37 AM ^
they would be if true, but both are not true and JUB has walked back his statements.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:16 AM ^
While we may wish that those two spoke more, I'd rather how they currently communicate over Brandon sitting with Hoke/RR going over game film every week. Plus, do we know if their communication is any different than other Power 5 schools?
January 20th, 2023 at 11:17 AM ^
I have no reason to doubt JUB about Harbaugh not speaking with Warde since May. It is very strange. Didn't Warde go to Indy for the B1G Championship game? You'd think Warde congratulated Jim and the team for winning a second B1G title.
It is great to have a U of M president that will fix a few things concerning a disconnect with the AD and how he runs the department.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:21 AM ^
Holy shit. That is unbelievable. WARDE HAS TO GO. Harbaugh is far more important to Michigan than is Warde. Get him the hell out of there and bring in someone who is willing to work hand-in-hand with the most important coach at the university.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:25 AM ^
The question is who can Harbaugh work with? If he can work with Santa Ono, I think it's an important enough relationship for the university that he should take the lead with Harbaugh. Santa is so involved with athletics, I don't think we need a CEO type AD anymore. Let Santa make the big picture decisions. Bring in more of a day to day, keep the operations running type AD.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:55 AM ^
Perfectly stated until the pendulum swings again. The AD needs a seat at the table with a strong voice. If the President of the university and the AD are in lockstep so much the better.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:25 AM ^
The AD at any top football program not speaking to their Head Football Coach, it's inexcusable.
Why hasn't Santa kicked Warde out the door already? Bye Felicia.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:37 PM ^
Why? Because it’s not true. Read the rest of the comments in this thread before accepting the first thing you read at face value.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:28 AM ^
How can that be??? If that's the case, Warde has got to go. He had one big job and it's football. Everything else is everything else.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:28 AM ^
This is simply not true. Maybe he is just referring to contract talks? They have definitely spoken to each other at games as witnessed on live tv.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:39 AM ^
If your response is, "Bacon is crazy I saw them talking once or twice in public" and not "oh that makes the Ono tweet about Harbaugh's contract make perfect sense," I don't know what to tell you. There are obviously big problems between Harbaugh and Warde.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:31 AM ^
Yeah IDK, John U Bacon is turning out to be Gilderoy Lockhart
January 20th, 2023 at 11:36 AM ^
I mean, didn't Harbaugh say something to the effect of "I've spoken with Warde" after the msu game? Plus they were literally at the presser after that game together. I would guess they've spoken, just about things they had to talk about.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:03 PM ^
I liked JUB until today..... when he revealed that he is a Packers' fan!