Manuel and Harbaugh haven't spoken directly since May per Bacon
January 20th, 2023 at 5:49 PM ^
That's fine, they dont have to work spouses, just you know, exchange some words once in a while. Merry Christmas, anything you need after the msu tunnel incident, congrats on the conference championship, etc??
January 20th, 2023 at 11:20 AM ^
7 months, during which:
- Jim has a pretty good season
- Jim's contract, negotiated to Jim's disadvantage after 2020, would seem to merit a significant revision
- Michigan gets a new President, i.e. Warde gets a new Boss
- MSU tunnel, Mazi Smith gun, NCAA nothingburger, Weiss doing god-know-what are all incidents with legal ramifications.
to quote Princess Bride: Inconceivable!
January 20th, 2023 at 12:03 PM ^
"Jim's contract, negotiated to Jim's disadvantage after 2020, would seem to merit a significant revision"
Uhhh... his contract was renegotiated in 2022. He was not working under the 2020 contract this season.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:28 PM ^
I read somewhere that with the bonuses, Jim was the third highest paid coach for 2022. The team finished third in the polls. Seems like Warde nailed that.
January 20th, 2023 at 1:35 PM ^
His base compensation was lower than Tucker’s, Day’s and Franklin’s. Should that be the case?
This probably also means that our assistants’ base compensation was lower than at other schools, too.
January 20th, 2023 at 3:03 PM ^
MSU’s AD should be fired for fiscal irresponsibility. He’s paying top-5 money to a .500 coach. That’s just stupid. Warde is not popular, but he’s not paid to be popular. He’s paid to run a $200M entity. I’m sure he DGAF what we think of him.
Your base pay is exactly that, a starting point. Many CEOs get a very good base pay, but they make their real money on performance bonuses. Good for Warde for rewarding performance and having reasonable expectations.
Michigan coaches were notoriously underpaid during the Canham administration. He is widely believed to be Michigan’s greatest AD.
January 20th, 2023 at 10:57 AM ^
I couldn’t imagine a job where I didn’t talk to my boss or one of my direct employees for 8 months.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:01 AM ^
While making 6 figures nonetheless...sounds like a dream job to me!
January 20th, 2023 at 11:09 AM ^
Try 7 figures. $1.126M last year...
January 20th, 2023 at 11:22 AM ^
Yesterday I discovered a high grade (pay) employee has actually worked for me for almost a year when she waltzed into a meeting. I was never told she worked for me nor did she ever communicate with me even once. Astonishing.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:53 AM ^
Did you fire her on the spot?
January 20th, 2023 at 12:00 PM ^
It is a good point that the communication responsibility goes both ways.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:02 PM ^
I have to know - how do you not know who your employees are? I mean, the way you describe it (so vaguely), you seem to work for a fairly large company. Surely you have an HR system that tracks personnel and performance reviews, right? How do you not know this for ~one year?
Pending further explanation, I put this 100% on you!
January 20th, 2023 at 12:53 PM ^
You didn't see the person's name in Microsoft, Workday, or whatever people management system your company is using?
That's really weird. Like even for PTO, where where her requests going?
January 20th, 2023 at 2:25 PM ^
Move her desk to the basement, take her off the payroll, and don't say anything.
Fix the glitch.
January 20th, 2023 at 2:53 PM ^
Keep the (red) stapler.
January 20th, 2023 at 3:04 PM ^
I was wondering if her name was Millie Waddams.
January 20th, 2023 at 5:38 PM ^
You folks all make great points. Yes, very large organization where I am a high grade but not at executive level
The granularity of my budget view only goes down to the supporting organization. I cannot view who is charging my funding by name. The system is set up so I can direct funding but not monitor effectively.
It was jarring to learn someone making $180K/year was on my team without my knowledge and making zero contributions.
January 20th, 2023 at 10:55 PM ^
Where should I send my resume?!
January 20th, 2023 at 12:25 PM ^
This is far more common than you might think, and not in a good way.
January 20th, 2023 at 10:58 AM ^
I mean they did sit next to each other in the press conference after the tunnel incident, so what they didn’t talk to each other? I don’t buy what bacon is saying
January 20th, 2023 at 11:16 AM ^
Bacon exists for clicks just like all the rest of em. Its time this fanbase quits giving them to him.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:58 AM ^
Didn't we see Jim and Warde on the field together talking before games just this season?
January 20th, 2023 at 12:00 PM ^
Was hoping to see some saying this. I just don’t believe it.
Also someone on Twitter posted photos of Jim and Warde making small talk etc a few times through the season and at practice in response to JUB. Bacon basically said yeah I meant they’re talking but not talking talking, you know. Weird backtrack.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:05 PM ^
Small talk is not the same as a job discussion or performance review. I mean, I can make small talk with people at work that I detest, because it's work and you cannot act like so many toddlers.
January 20th, 2023 at 12:17 PM ^
I'm not a JUB fan, at all, but I see his point here. By "talk" he means substantive talk, not polite chatter about the weather while standing in an elevator. It's not that complicated.
January 20th, 2023 at 5:52 PM ^
Na fuck that now i feel like an asshole and want to delete my last 3 comments. So they have talked and how the fuck would bacon know when they make small talk and when they say "hey you saw my email about this important thing?" "Yeah ill email you back, crazy weather huh?"
January 20th, 2023 at 5:52 PM ^
Na fuck that now i feel like an asshole and want to delete my last 3 comments. So they have talked and how the fuck would bacon know when they make small talk and when they say "hey you saw my email about this important thing?" "Yeah ill email you back, crazy weather huh?"
January 20th, 2023 at 12:14 PM ^
I'm assuming he means "talked" in a professional meeting-at-the-office kind of sense and not just making chitchat. But he could have been clearer if so.
January 20th, 2023 at 1:11 PM ^
There is a HUGE difference between a 'show and tell' press conference and actually "talking". Just taking a guess here, but I am pretty sure that Bacon is referring to Warde and Harbaugh not having any "status meeting" / "1 on 1" / work related meetings.
And for those who are trying to pin this all on Harbaugh, while I agree that Jim is 'different' there is a growing list of examples with Warde that demonstrates his slow and sometimes nil response to ANY athletic situation. For example:
Baseball - Dakich
Hockey - Firing Mel
Football - 2020 contract; tunnel incident; new contract; NIL support; NCAA investigation
There is a pattern developing with Warde that is showing a slow and sometime bizarre behavior.
Now, Warde could certainly be a "Hands off" managerial approach. Choosing to allow his team (aka all head coaches) plenty of latitude to operate as they see fit. And there is some level of merit to that, but there is also the aspect that he has repeatedly been very slow to react to items/issues that have been allowed to fester much longer than they should have. This would be his downfall.
I would expect / hope the AD would be a "Hands off" approach when dealing with their team (no Dave Brandon here - again aka all head coaches), HOWEVER I would expect the same AD would be diligent in the background executing their responsibilities (aka: coaching contract, budget management, future project to enhance the athletic department, any issues arising from any sports, prioritizing the cash cow - football, etc...). This is where I believe Warde is not doing a very good job and honestly a pretty piss poor one at it.
January 20th, 2023 at 1:13 PM ^
Yeah, Bacon should have been much more measured with the statement. I know it’s Twitter, but he had to know this was misleading.
January 20th, 2023 at 1:13 PM ^
double post. Double bird to the world. 🖕 🖕
January 20th, 2023 at 10:58 AM ^
#relationshipgoals
January 20th, 2023 at 10:59 AM ^
All of these things are insane. Shows how completely uninterested Schlissel was with athletics. The fact that Jim and Warde haven't spoken directly in almost a year makes the "no man knows the future" comments a little more understandable. I assume Ono will either try to repair the relationship or fire Warde and hire someone who is more aligned with the school's goals. I'd lean towards it likely being the latter
January 20th, 2023 at 11:00 AM ^
I call bullshit on this. Maybe they haven’t spoken directly about contracts or other long term things, but they literally sat next to one another at the MSU press conference. They must have discussed what happened there prior to the conference and devised their response appropriately. This doesn’t vindicate not having more open lines of ongoing communication, but I just think the tweet overstates things.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:04 AM ^
Tough call on who to believe here--John Bacon, or...4godkingandwol...
January 20th, 2023 at 11:08 AM ^
lololol
January 20th, 2023 at 11:09 AM ^
JUB literally backtracked and basically corroborated what 4godkingandwol said…
January 20th, 2023 at 2:12 PM ^
That's not how I read JUB's qualifier at all. He basically said, 'yes, these guys have been seen together in public. But the concept of they're not talking still holds'.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:11 AM ^
Well seeing the next post says exactly what 4godkingandwol said, I think the turning down of the snark is justified.
January 20th, 2023 at 1:45 PM ^
Yeah, not that tough. JUB already backtracked.
January 20th, 2023 at 11:00 AM ^
One note, they’ve definitely had conversations and chatted. Just haven’t conducted official business one on one. Idk why JUB didn’t clarify that in his tweet…
The thing that has always annoyed me with Warde is how he insists on wearing quarter zips underneath his blazers. It looks absolutely atrocious.
Edit: he’s now also backtracked on Schilssel not having a review with Manuel in 6 years
January 20th, 2023 at 11:04 AM ^
This explains why Jim has an agent now?
January 20th, 2023 at 11:10 AM ^
the quarter zips??
January 20th, 2023 at 12:11 PM ^
"I can't talk face to face with a man who dresses like this"
January 20th, 2023 at 11:10 AM ^
Are you the fashion editor at GQ?
January 20th, 2023 at 11:17 AM ^
Incorrect, it’s Vanity Fair
January 20th, 2023 at 11:10 AM ^
Warde was in locker room after games and you can see them talk. You can see them talk after beating OSU at home. Come on man. JUB is ridiculous
January 20th, 2023 at 11:16 AM ^
I don't understand why anyone takes JUB seriously anymore.
