December 9th, 2020 at 10:17 PM ^
Well, last season was Juwan’s first, and the B1G Tourney was COVID’d, so technically zero. But that’s hardly his fault.
December 9th, 2020 at 6:50 PM ^
If they draw Clemson or Bama they will lose.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:14 PM ^
I would agree on the Bama but not Clemson. Clemson is a house of cards this year that's why you don't hear Dabo bitching and moaning every week about respect and blah blah blah. he knows...he knows
December 9th, 2020 at 10:40 PM ^
This pretty much sums up the entire thread. Nice.
December 9th, 2020 at 6:57 PM ^
Often times, large organizations and the people that work within them really struggle to admit a mistake and fix the issue. Stubbornness and pride can be a real impediment to getting things correct.
I take no joy in seeing OSU advance to the championship game, but they certainly deserve it.
For all the things the B1G gets wrong, at least they got this right.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:08 PM ^
Go Wildcats
December 9th, 2020 at 7:19 PM ^
it certainly sucks seeing them in yet another B1G chip but let's be real guys if we were 5-0 and they canceled on us we would be screaming from the hills that we should be going to Indy. The whole 6 game minimum was put in to keep people from playing 2-3 games then calling it a day and claiming they should be in. They had two games canceled on them and they canceled one. It is what it is. IF anything this makes them be a little less battle hardened going into the CFP if they get in. They won't be clicking on all cylinders. In all honesty I am of the notion we should hope they get in the CFP and help us get some $$$. It benefits us if they do. We just need to figure out a way to f'ing beat them. has anyone seen their hype video for this weeks game that was canceled? holy hell everything they do revolves around beating us.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:22 PM ^
I really don’t like this, but I do understand it. 2020.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:30 PM ^
Fuck it--don't bother playing the B1G East schedule next year. In fact, just anoint them OSU as Big Ten champs at the beginning of the season so they can go straight to the playoffs.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:35 PM ^
Kevin Warren is a fucking moron......that is all
December 9th, 2020 at 7:35 PM ^
The fact that Ohio State could be one of only 4 teams to make the playoffs, only having played SIX games is fucking crazy. With only 1 quality win on their resume.
December 9th, 2020 at 8:12 PM ^
I would like to introduce you to ND's schedule.
December 10th, 2020 at 12:27 AM ^
ND's schedule, while not world conquering, is orders of magnitude better than OSU's. It features twice as many wins as OSU (10 to 5), twice as many victories against ranked opponents (2 to 1), and the only win over a #1 ranked opponent all year. OSU beat Indiana...
December 10th, 2020 at 12:34 AM ^
Indiana was ranked #9 at the time they got beat by OSU and haven’t lost since. Clemson was without their star QB and ND had to go to overtime to beat them.
December 10th, 2020 at 5:46 PM ^
Do you truly believe Indiana and Clemson (with or without Trevor Lawrence) are on equal footing? Comparing ND's schedule and OSU's schedule is completely apples to oranges. Further proof that this "season" is a joke.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:40 PM ^
May they lose badly and go home in shame
December 9th, 2020 at 7:41 PM ^
Biased against Michigan 1973.
Biased for osu 2020.
Big Ten.
Go Blue.
PS - - got a friend who's granddad is 78 with cancer, huge Indiana fan... he cried tonight saying the Big Ten is not fair and should have stuck to their original rules. Granddad will die never seeing Indiana win the Big Ten in football. Not because they played and lost. Because they were CHEATED out of the chance.
Do you think buckeye nation cares? F*ck no.
You don't change monopoly rules half-way thru the game when it doesn't go your way.
Isn't that what we teach children? Maybe we should teach children to make up rules as they go?
December 9th, 2020 at 7:57 PM ^
I mean, IU did play OSU and lost. They got "cheated" because Michigan getting COVID makes IU a better team than OSU? If Michigan doesn't get COVID, OSU probably thumps us and goes to the championship anyway. Or Michigan pulls off a miracle upset, OSU is 5-1 and still holds the head-to-head over IU.
The Big Ten was stupid to not leave room for BYE weeks and rescheduled games - the initial rules were rules, but they were also kind of dumb. Not sure IU actually has that great of a case to feel cheated - what they got cheated out of was a lucky unearned win on a technicality.
December 9th, 2020 at 8:37 PM ^
If OSU was 5-1 and Indiana 7-1, Indiana would have a better winning percentage. Does that come before head-to-head matchup?
December 9th, 2020 at 9:23 PM ^
No, had we beat them they would still be going to Indy
December 9th, 2020 at 9:08 PM ^
No way. Dan Villari beats OSU. Book it.
December 10th, 2020 at 7:40 AM ^
As you said yourself, even though those were dumb, they were the rules everyone agreed to play by. You shouldn't change rules in the middle of the season when it doesn't suit you. But hey, money is the king. And for a lack of better word, greed is good.
December 11th, 2020 at 7:46 PM ^
They did lose to Ohio State though. Indiana can't complain when they lost head to head. Ohio could have forefited against us and still been in it. Indiana had their chance.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:51 PM ^
Michigan is just soft and willing to be bullied by OSU from the administration down. Not much is going to change until the entire program is as obsessive as their rivals.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:51 PM ^
Meh. Hard to be too upset, as much as I hate the Buckeyes. They beat IU head to head and no one else in the East is close. Unless you think it likely that OSU would have lost 2 out of 3 of the games they had scheduled but canceled, sending IU because Ohio couldn't find a team to play for two weeks is unfair in its own way.
Yeah, it's bad optics to change previously written rules, but we know more now than we did then, and the whole season has been a COVID cluster with a major asterisk anyway.
December 9th, 2020 at 8:19 PM ^
Michigan football is dead to me as long as harbaugh is still here. The worst team I have ever seen and I’ve been watching since 2001. My focus is on basketball. They are fun to watch and the players show pride and energy on the court and on the bench. Harbaugh can learn from them once he’s fired and watching the games from home
December 9th, 2020 at 8:27 PM ^
Surprise but embarrassment for the BIG. The irony is playing Iowa (the likely "crossover" game) would be a much tougher game.
December 9th, 2020 at 9:51 PM ^
Agreed. Indiana v. Iowa will be a good one! Or is Wiscy still a hair above Iowa in the rankings?
December 9th, 2020 at 10:43 PM ^
Wisky plays Iowa this weekend, From what I've seen of the UW QB, he is great vs. bad D's like our but so-so vs. good D's like NW and Indy.
I expect Iowa to win.
I think UM-Nebraska is coming
December 9th, 2020 at 8:31 PM ^
Wouldn’t it be cool if Northwestern whipped their butts?
December 9th, 2020 at 8:40 PM ^
They would need to do what PSU did to Vinny Testaverde. Get 7 INTs or something. But I think Indiana’s defense is really good and OSU put up 42 (35 on offense) on them. I won’t be watching. Fuck OSU.
December 9th, 2020 at 8:38 PM ^
Disappointed but not surprised
December 9th, 2020 at 8:39 PM ^
The biggest surprise is this announcement took 24 hours to make. I thought for sure they would have officially made the change by last night.
And you have to laugh at any Buckeye fans who wasted a single minute of energy complaining yesterday about the possibility of not playing in the conference title game. Did they honestly think the rules wouldn’t get changed on their behalf? Nobody could be that delusional.
December 9th, 2020 at 8:40 PM ^
This just further proves how weak the leadership is for the BIG TEN Conference. From Kevin Warren at the top all the way down.
December 9th, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^
Warren tried to do the responsible thing and cancel the season, and what happened?
*Harbaugh led the charge about how unfair the decision was, with Day, Franklin, Frost, and Ferentz soon jumping jumping in and lending their voices to the chorus of bitching about just what an awful travesty the whole thing was.
*Nebraska made a veiled threat to leave the conference which, even if it had no real teeth, was terrible from a PR perspective.
*Parents held rallies so little Johnny could play football even though they wouldn’t be able to come see him play.
*The rest of the Big10, with the notable exception of Wisconsin, just kind of stood by and silently grumbled about it, without offering any real kind of unified support on how it was the right thing to do for the safety of the athletes and the public.
This is what they wanted so, congrats to them, they got it. They burned a year of these athlete’s eligibility on a shitty 6 or so game season that means dick and is basically going to be a big GD bust for every team except OSU, Indiana and Nwestn. Even OSU only got to play 5 games, had to cancel their biggest rival before being exempted into the B10 title game, and are probably getting their asses pounded in the CFP.
Should Warren have stuck to his guns? Yes. But it was all these other people who just couldn’t IMAGINE a year without college football, even as we headed into prime virus season during the worst pandemic in a century, who eventually forced his hand.
So if Michigan, or any other school besides UW, wants to get all pissy about OSU being given special treatment here, just remember the hand they played in making it possible.
December 9th, 2020 at 10:09 PM ^
I’m pretty sure no one loses a year of eligibility for this season. Also, I don’t recall Nebraska threatening to leave the conference, but I suspect many in the league would have pleaded “don’t throw me in that briar patch” if they did.
December 9th, 2020 at 10:11 PM ^
Nebraska said that they would “look elsewhere” for their competition and was essentially sending up a message that they’d consider leaving the conference before they backed off.
As far as eligibility goes, that’s up to the NCAA and I haven’t heard anything to indicate they’ll give an extra year. If they do give it to the B10 and or Pac 12, then no doubt the SEC, ACC and B12 will all jump in complaining that their kids should get it too despite having played close to a full season. I don’t know if that’s a can of worms the NCAA is willing to open.
December 9th, 2020 at 10:14 PM ^
No way Nebraska leaves. They would be giving up too much money which they could never recoup elsewhere. And I am sure the league powers that be understand that, if they even give a damn about Nebraska staying.
December 9th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
It still was a shitty look for a conference that was trying to be proactive and responsible to its athletes.
December 9th, 2020 at 11:21 PM ^
rabble rabble rabble....wait, I can't disagree with any of this and fact checking is there. Good take bud.
+1
December 9th, 2020 at 9:08 PM ^
After all these years, I’m glad something finally went their way.
December 9th, 2020 at 9:20 PM ^
Indeed. Can’t help but be happy that OSU finally had the ball bounce their way!
December 9th, 2020 at 9:30 PM ^
Sounds about right for 2020
December 9th, 2020 at 9:37 PM ^
what a fuckin joke.
You may as well pay players now. The big ten is clearly more interested in the money over integrity of the conference and following you know. . . . THEIR OWN FUCKING RULES.
December 9th, 2020 at 9:56 PM ^
Eh, they're covid rules. Every week brings something new and weird. To stick to them like they're Big 10 Commandments written in stone is a quaint notion, like 'throwing down a gauntlet' in medieval times. Pandemic Chivalry?
December 9th, 2020 at 10:05 PM ^
The only problem I have is that they wouldn't have done this for any other Big Ten team.
December 9th, 2020 at 10:06 PM ^
This is the right decision by the B1G conference.
December 9th, 2020 at 10:07 PM ^
I wonder, if the shoe were on the other foot, if Gene Smith would have been outspoken as Warde was about getting Michigan into the championship game.