Iowa Snowflakes - The Offense

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on October 5th, 2019 at 11:30 PM

This will be your thread for snowflakes and hot takes regarding the offense in our game against Iowa. 

MGoSteven

October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^

We need to start passing to set up the run, not the other way around. Our run game is terrible and essentially a wasted down. We looked best when we started airing it out. 

Magnum P.I.

October 5th, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^

Quality as a human being notwithstanding, Urban Meyer just made a great point. You have to take shots. No offense will consistently score touchdowns by gaining four yards every play and methodically getting first downs. Penalties, turnovers, and big losses will inevitably occur and disrupt those long drives. You have to have big plays here and there to score, especially with our caliber of athletes. 

Throw the goddam ball downfield. 

stephenrjking

October 5th, 2019 at 4:03 PM ^

The open question is how much of this is on playcalling and how much of this is on the QB, who seemed to readily bug out of clean pockets and bail out of plays. 

It’s possible, even likely, that there were plays designed with going deep as a good option where that option was not taken. 

BTW it’s not a coincidence that Iowa plays zone and Michigan QBs under Harbaugh have a hard time reading and attacking zone defenses. 

swalburn

October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^

Time to make a QB change.  If this is the offense you are going to run might as well play the kids.  The offense was an abomination.  I have no idea what the problem is but I think it is a lack of faith in the QB.  

andrewgr

October 5th, 2019 at 5:17 PM ^

I'm not debating whether Milton could be better than Patterson.  I'm challenging the assertion that he can't be any worse.  Dude had less than a 50% completion rate in High School, and has little actual game experience reading defenses.  He absolutely could be worse-- he could put up a stat line like 5/20 with two interceptions and no tds.

Blue 4 Life

October 5th, 2019 at 7:27 PM ^

Do you really think it would make a difference? We have one of the best group of WR's that I can remember and they can't get the ball because everyone around them plays like they're watching Arthur Fonzarelli dance with his sick dance moves. I have no idea whats wrong with this offense but its a whole lot of everything.

Wolverine91

October 5th, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^

Pure garbage. Unreal how it hasn't even improved not even just a little. Game at psu will be an embarrassment and we'll officially be eliminated from big ten contention, thankfully..

YouRFree

October 5th, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^

Shitty game because of one players. Sorry for the wr groups. OL is doing decent in pass protection. Improved.

 

wish we can start maccaffery or Milton next game.

MWolverine7

October 5th, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^

She is the problem.  Give Gattis autonomy to pick his QB.  He’s all talk.  Every time he’s on the field - he looks tentative.  It’s ridiculous to not make the change right now.

Mannix

October 5th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

The revelation of having Gattis on the sideline was the key right?

Turns out Rutgers was the key. 

This is such a terrible offense I can’t believe the staff enjoys this. 

Magnum P.I.

October 5th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

I don't see any reason to continue to play Shea. He contributes nothing and almost certainly is hurting us. 

He's contributing nothing with his legs (the one nice read keeper notwithstanding).

He can't or won't get the ball downfield.

He has terrible field vision.

I guess he didn't fumble this game so that's good?

Unless Milton is just throwing picks every other pass or putting the ball on the ground like mad, I can't see how it wouldn't be better to at least try him out

TennesseeMaize

October 5th, 2019 at 5:11 PM ^

Your logic is so reasonable. If it can’t get worse, but can only get better...why not give Milton or DCaff a shot? 

If those two suck, put Shea back in. His confidence is already shot as evidenced by his play, so why not try to stir up the offense with a change? I could even see the receivers running crisper routes, Oline blocking a little better, RBs with a quicker step if they felt like the coaches were willing to take a chance to get the offense moving. 

Wilton Speight

October 5th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

Shea is really bad. Why not throw in Mccaffrey next week if he is recovered and see what he does against a below-average opponent? I'd also say that mental mistakes really killed us again. Shea's interception was inexplicable and the two consecutive fumbles. Plus the missed field goal but that was on special teams...

M-B Devil Dog

October 5th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

I have always been very critical of Shea...and I will continue to be. He is terrible. just terrible. It's fucking laughable that his brother posted that shit about his NFL future. Not only that but his stupid feauxHawk haircut. what a fucking prima donna, just bench him PLEASE

SD Larry

October 5th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^

There was a nice long pass to Nico and a few moments of brilliance but bottom line, the offense   gave Stanley too many chances to beat us.  Thankful we won, largely due to winning turnover battle and an epic, absolutely ballin performance by the defense. 

M-Dog

October 5th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^

Our offense is having growing pains, but Iowa's offense shows why our own offense had to change.

It's just too easy to defend.  It does not put enough pressure on defenders' decisions.  They can just key on one thing at the start of the play and go all out.

We suck at what we are trying to do right now, but we have to try to do it to ever get to the next level.

 

tigerd

October 5th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^

Time to bench Patterson and I'm not so sure I let Gattis call one more game if he is truly calling plays. Where are the screen plays, where are the rub routes. Where is any kind of use of the tight ends. If "Speed In Space" means throwing it out wide to a running back with no blocking in front then it just flat out sucks.

Navy Wolverine

October 5th, 2019 at 3:57 PM ^

Is there really talent? I am starting to question that. We are bad at QB. It looks like we have 4 decent possession receivers. About once a game Collins is able to bring in a long pass. Charbonet is decent but is only a Freshman. The big problem appears to be an absolute lack of game breakers on the offensive side of the ball.

NorCalMfan

October 5th, 2019 at 4:20 PM ^

At this point I get the skepticism regarding the offense.  I think there is some great talent at WR.  All they need is a QB that can consistently get them the ball.  They don't seem to have much confidence that Shea will see them when open.  He either bails early and doesn't go through his progressions, or holds on a second too long in the pocket when he should tuck and run.