Illinois Snowflakes - The Offense
October 12th, 2019 at 4:06 PM ^
Agreed. This is the same coach we only had 4 fumbles all last year. It could be the coaching, but ... I don’t know what could have changed.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:10 PM ^
Michigan fans think that the only way to justify their rage is to call for a coach to be fired.
Jay Harbaugh is the target now? Christ.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:10 PM ^
Out of all of the complaints people can have for this offense, I am not even remotely sure how our running backs coach is one of those complaints.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:24 PM ^
Through 6 games, only one RB over 200 yards, and that’s Charbonnet with 376. To go along with way too many ball security issues. Tired of the sunshine blower crowd on here. I can’t wait to hear the narrative after next weeks game.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:48 PM ^
They completely abandoned the run in 1 game (Wisconsin) and have rotated backs all year, sometimes out of necessity (injuries). What do you expect?
October 12th, 2019 at 4:53 PM ^
So what, you expect the RBs to be able to just run through unblocked players and rescue bad QB decisions in the option game?
The running game’s struggles fall firmly on the OL and offensive design/play calling. Their running ability, vision, and blitz pickups (you know, all the things RB coaches actually coach) have been good.
Hell, even the fumbling isn’t helped by the rest of the offense, considering how much traffic and how many unblocked tacklers the RBs have to deal with. The temptation to hero ball plus guys able to tee up on you from every direction are going to contribute to some drops.
October 12th, 2019 at 5:23 PM ^
So, fire two assistant coaches mid season, bench our starting QB without a clear healthy successor and we’ll beat PSU on the road next week? Huh.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:00 PM ^
Did Gattis call the plays?
October 12th, 2019 at 4:02 PM ^
Need to get some advice from Tom Osborne. Michigan is working hard on the Fumblerooski but they haven't mastered it yet.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:10 PM ^
Just gotta remember the -rooski bit.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:04 PM ^
The first half looked great.
Can we blame all the fumbles to poor play calling? Team is so much better without the drops......!!!
October 12th, 2019 at 4:36 PM ^
Play Calling wasn't in the lineup today, so can't blame the fumbles on him. Gonna blame whoever fumbled the ball, sure as hell wasn't play calling.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:48 PM ^
I am going to have this song stuck in my head for the next 24 hours. Darn you straight to heck!
October 12th, 2019 at 4:08 PM ^
That 3rd Quarter was maybe the worst 15 min of football I have seen M play in 5 yrs. thought they were really going to lose after Tru Wilson fumbled.
Sucks bc can’t even enjoy this win. Bc they are going to lose the rest of their games with the exception of maybe Maryland.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:08 PM ^
The insane level of fumbling has to stop. This game is 45-10 if they don't keep coughing the ball up. That is their only chance to beat PSU, ND, MSU and OSU. Also Haskins needs to be the #1 guy at RB. Why he was on the bench in the 3rd quarter is crazy.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:42 PM ^
The only chance UM has of beating the mentioned teams is to somehow magically become really good at the footballs. It has not happened to this point of the season and do not see it happening this year. The fumbles could be reversed in said games but the qb impersonator Patterson will see to it UM does not take advantage of the turnovers.
October 12th, 2019 at 5:34 PM ^
You must not have watched MSU play this year if you think we have no chance of beating them. As for the others, of course we have a chance, especially against ND in Ann Arbor.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:09 PM ^
Is there no snowflakes thread for the special teams? Because it looks like Harbaugh's has lost faith in the place kickers. That's kinda important.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:10 PM ^
Patterson is broken. Eubanks should be playing soccer. The fumbles are not an anomaly.
October 12th, 2019 at 5:54 PM ^
What’s wrong with Eubanks? I think he’s one of our better players.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:10 PM ^
The offense had its good moments and bad moments. Despite the freaky part where Illinois came to within 3 (and how does that happen defensively, come on!), the offense bounced back and the win was pretty comfortable.
I might be upset if this had turned into a loss, but I’m cool with a 17 point win in B1G play. It’ll be interesting to see what PSU can do in Kinnick tonight.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:11 PM ^
#LostInSpace
October 12th, 2019 at 4:15 PM ^
They cannot play a complete game. Too sloppy. Shea and RB’s have ball security issues. Receivers - Still dropping balls and cannot make big plays. Mason is the most overrated player we have had in a long time. Yeah, he is a football guy Jim. We get it.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:36 PM ^
I honestly don’t know what the deal is with the fumbles. If it’s not Shea, it’s Turner. If it’s not Turner, it’s Tru. Every week, a different guy puts the ball on the ground. I don’t see anything specific about the way they’re being taught to carry it.
My main thing, which still remains, is that what are you trying to do on offense? You aren’t a smash mouth team anymore. You want to be a spread team, but your QB refuses to pull on simple reads. Are you telling him to do that because it’s coaching malpractice if you are. If not, maybe you sacrifice Shea’s whatever for McCaffrey. But he can’t stay healthy and you risk ruining your only other option at QB if he gets dinged.
And if you are running a spread, why is every passing play these long developing routes? Why can’t you throw a quick slant or a bubble screen?
They seem to have three running plays total.
It’s like an old Hoke offense where they haven’t settled on what they want to do so they aren’t good at anything.
October 12th, 2019 at 6:09 PM ^
they're thinking too much, from the broadcast Gattis had to simply what he wants from them. My guess is the system Gattis tried to install has too many keys to read, and he didn't finish installing the system before fall camp ended. Probably spent more time in practice teaching how the system is supposed to work and less time on fundamentals of holding on to the ball. This happened before, in 1998 Hoke pretty much admitted they didn't spend much time teaching dlinemen how to reach to option plays because they just won the championship and expect the returning starters to know how to react in those situations. McNabb running over the team on national TV was the result.
not that much bubble screens and slants probably because they don't trust them on the fundamentals, 2 plays where poor fundamentals leads to very bad results.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:40 PM ^
Unbig, you think DMac not playing is because of being out and no practice? You think he has a shot to get meaningful snaps next week? Your opinion, not holding you to anything like some idiots on here. Just dumbfounded JH thinks Shea is their best option and not giving DMac even a shot. Every time he plays over last 2 years, O moves the ball. Isn’t flashy, but it works. Shea is bad. He deserves extended time.
October 12th, 2019 at 6:11 PM ^
JH will ride Shea as long as he can. DM really needed this week off in my opinion. I am sure he practiced some, or he would not have traveled with the team.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:44 PM ^
Mason was fine. He was recruited as FB., not his fault. And he should stay there. Changing to LB don’t pan out.
October 12th, 2019 at 7:17 PM ^
The only RB that doesn't have fumbling issues is Haskins and apparently averaging over 10 yards a carry is enough to shelf a guy and bench him to start the second half..
WHY IN THE FUCK was Wilson and turner even playing? Charbonnet fumbled, but he and haskins are the only RB's that should touch the ball ever on this team going forward.
October 12th, 2019 at 7:34 PM ^
The Mason love here and Brian’s asinine assertion that any good offense would have a role for him boggle the mind. He’s just an average fullback, a shitty defensive tackle, and takes dumb penalties.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:18 PM ^
It seems clear that the "offense fully turned over to Gattis" was all talk. This offense looks like last year's offense but with worse execution thus far.
I still believe Shea is the best bet at this point but DMac needs to get healthy because every time Shea keeps it I cringe because he perpetually looks ready to come off the field after a hit
October 12th, 2019 at 6:01 PM ^
yeah. I hate it when Harbaugh is calling the plays. Why can't he just let Gattis call the I formation wham plays that Gattis was brought in for. Screw this zone read from Shotgun crap Harbaugh brought with him from the 9ers.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:19 PM ^
First half, and last part of the fourth quarter: great
Third quarter: apparently they forgot to take the field.
October 12th, 2019 at 5:18 PM ^
They had like 6 plays in that time. Part of it has to be on the D for inexplicably allowing Illinois to dink and dunk 2 TD drives that ate up a lot of clock.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^
At what point does Jay Harbaugh catch serious flack for the inability of running backs to secure the football? Isn't that one of your most important duties as a running back coach. Also. I sure hope he isn't in on deciding when running backs should be shuffled in and out. Why in the hell when you already have several backs in the rotation do you bring in Turner who has been on the bench all game to carry the ball. They dodged a bullet when he was correctly judged down before he fumbled.
October 12th, 2019 at 7:11 PM ^
Mike hart would put an end to that...
October 12th, 2019 at 4:27 PM ^
Shea's team and program until whatever shit bowl game ends.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:32 PM ^
This game rewinds as an instructional video.
1st & 2nd quarters: This is how you're supposed to do it. (I.e., what we've been yearning for.)
3rd quarter: This is what not to do.
4th quarter: And THIS is what you do if you've done what you did in the 3rd,
October 12th, 2019 at 4:39 PM ^
October 12th, 2019 at 4:36 PM ^
Inject more hassan haskins runs to the edge into my veins
October 12th, 2019 at 4:36 PM ^
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October 12th, 2019 at 6:06 PM ^
Someone got new font for his birthday. And, automatic upvotes!
October 12th, 2019 at 4:37 PM ^
Harbaugh is not replacing Shea thats become apparent. When he pulled him in Madison he did it necause he knew the game was over not because he thought Dylan deserves an oppurtunity to prove himself. There is no QB controversy Harbaugh is going all out with Shea and i think that is gonna be his demise. As a QB himself career is ironically gonna be defined with never able to develop a QB
October 12th, 2019 at 4:39 PM ^
I listened to the Illini broadcast on the radio. They described his balls as ducks and noted how slow he looked in going through reads. He is not even mediocre at this point. Milton needs to play. Just a more gifted athlete. I can’t understand Harbaugh’s lack of competent QB play. Extremely disappointing. This looks like an early Rich Rod team.
October 12th, 2019 at 4:43 PM ^
You mean without the defense, right?