Illinois Snowflakes - The Offense
October 12th, 2019 at 11:16 PM ^
I have. Played basketball with a broken thumb on my shooting hand. It didn't affect my mental side of the game.
Also wouldn't explain why Shea can't quickly read zone D since NW gave everyone the blueprint last year.
October 12th, 2019 at 11:44 PM ^
I shoulda worded that “played QB injured” - I give you props tho - injuries are no fun - my feeling is it’s affecting him in numerous ways.
October 12th, 2019 at 11:46 PM ^
It could be, but he has struggled with making quick reads in the passing game regardless of injury. I wish it was different, but he is what he is now.
I will say I can agree that injury is affecting him pulling the ball in the run game.
October 13th, 2019 at 4:52 PM ^
I’ve played QB with a sore elbow and it definitely cracked my confidence level especially in high stress games - helpless feeling when your mind and body aren’t on the same page. I think the zone reads and RPOs are all scripted for him to avoid worsening injuries.
October 12th, 2019 at 11:56 PM ^
He’s never had great mechanics, hence he’s always been better outside the pocket since his pocket passes were not appreciably better than throws on the run. His mechanics are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to his problems. Plus, I doubt they’d run him at all with a torn labrum.
October 13th, 2019 at 4:49 PM ^
True but his elbow is dropping noticeably lower and he’s short-arming the ball more than at any point last year - could be a slight tear - wouldn’t shock me if this news comes out after the season. Still rooting for him and the lads through thick and thin.
October 13th, 2019 at 12:36 AM ^
The problem is Shea Patterson. The RPO offense at Ole Miss became MORE efficient when he left. Hamilton’s offense is better for him because they gave him two reads and usually off play action from the run game. This offense is FAR more McCaffery’s strength than Shea’s. The 4th and 2 is a perfect example - he doesn’t know when to keep off the keep when there is a scrape. And he doesn’t really sell it well at all.
Sigh:(
October 13th, 2019 at 3:36 AM ^
I think this is the crux of the problem. DMac is a better zone read QB based on the small amount of film I've seen in blowout games. But maybe Patterson is less careless with the ball during pass attempts? I guess the coaches must be thinking better to punt with Patterson than have more INTs with DMac. Though guess they forgot about the sudden case of fumble-itis the team got.
October 13th, 2019 at 12:48 AM ^
Ronnie Bell has been the best player on offense thus far. And it's not really that close. Who saw that one coming? Hooray for Ronnie. He really is doing a hell of a job.
When the game was 28-25 Shea started keeping on the option plays. And he gained chunk yardage and we ended up garnering momentum and scoring quite easily. We went on a 14-0 run to finish the game. That told me all I need to know that Gattis/JH are saving the QB keepers for the upcoming games. It actually gives me a little bit of optimism.
October 13th, 2019 at 3:18 AM ^
was that the coaches telling him not to keep or he just is too timid to keep except when the game is on the line and he wants to be the hero? I mean I know the coaches want to minimize hits, but at some point those reads need to be worked out with some game time experience so he can actually experience reading a defense. You know like on 4-2 and the defender faked taking the outside then crashed the RB after the handoff.
October 13th, 2019 at 2:13 AM ^
I don't think Patterson is horrible a QB. I don't think this team is horrible.
What I think is that its a mediocre team and Patterson isn't a great QB that can elevate the team to beat more talented squads. Maybe if Shea believed in the OL or we had a good running game it might be different.
October 13th, 2019 at 7:02 AM ^
This team has been mediocre by performance thus far, but there's too much talent on this team for it to be acceptable for it to be mediocre.
Year after year, it seems like we bring in 4-star talent and get 3-star results.
October 13th, 2019 at 8:38 AM ^
we returned basically 9 starters from the #2 offense in the BIG last year. there is no excuse for what we are seeing on the field this year. NONE.
October 13th, 2019 at 9:52 AM ^
What really irks my jimmies is if this team literally and solely just stopped making mistakes and missing assignments they may not be great but they’d be very good.
Honest to God stop the fumbles and so many missed assignments and you have a different team.
Even in the UW game say the mistakes were cut down and they played clean football and lost 31-21. Still would suck but we’d all feel so much better.
the lack of discipline and composure leading to so many mistakes is what had me so disappointed in the coaching.
October 13th, 2019 at 10:45 AM ^
Fumbles are a lack of discipline? The same RB coach is here, the same head coach as last year. the only thing different is a bunch of (except Tru) young RB's
October 13th, 2019 at 10:45 AM ^
And.....Ben Mason did something dumb. But I am sure they aren't coaching him to be nice.
October 13th, 2019 at 12:50 PM ^
For those of us who have actually played football/running back, fumbles aren't necessarily because of poor coaching or even poor technique/ball security. Sometimes you just get hit in the wrong place at the wrong time. Charbonnet's fumble yesterday may have been an example; going to the ground, beginning to wrap his second arm around the ball after being tripped, and is hit just before he stretches out for that extra half yard. I don't know how that is anything but bad luck, or football luck, or bad karma. At no point did I see him do anything negative that contributed to the fumble.
October 13th, 2019 at 5:18 PM ^
I know he didn’t register in the box score, but I also don’t remember seeing him on the field. Did Nico Collins play yesterday?
October 14th, 2019 at 6:08 AM ^
The only reason Milton isn't "ready" is because of lack of playing time...? He has all the skills and abilities but lacks confidence due to minimal playing time, You think he'd get in against the Illinois of the B10 and he should!!! That will come back to haunt us...