Hawaii Snowflakes - The Offense
September 11th, 2022 at 12:54 AM ^
Some say you can't garner anything from this game. I'm in disagreement. That throw where JJ escaped the pocket and threw a rope to CoJo for a TD is a throw Cade doesn't have a prayer of making. That single play is where his abilities are on full display. He can scramble and keep his eyes downfield at all times and make throws with pinpoint accuracy. Additionally, that interception Cade threw with a clean pocket shows he's not right at the moment. He's not playing anywhere near how he played last year and I feel bad for him. I hope he is able to keep his head up and pull himself out of this. The booing and chants of "we want JJ" were juvenile at best and downright pathetic if we're being truthful. He deserves better. And to anyone saying he had nothing to do with last year, tell me you know nothing about football without telling me you know nothing about football.
September 11th, 2022 at 1:00 AM ^
I’ve read about 10 posts saying “let’s see JJ against real competition “ huh? Did you watch us against Georgia in the playoffs? Cade was worthless, yet JJ at least did something against the best defense in a generation. Plus he was a freshman! Watch out, this dude is special! Plus I put $100 on him for heisman preseason!
September 11th, 2022 at 1:04 AM ^
Tell me you’re biased without telling me you’re biased.
JJ had a 50% completion percentage and threw a touchdown when the Georgia sideline already had their championship shirts on. Both were effectively bad.
September 11th, 2022 at 1:12 AM ^
I like when I lose points for posting literal stats lol
September 11th, 2022 at 1:17 AM ^
J.J. went 7/17 and threw his TD pass in garbage time. Nice? Sure. Is that remotely the same as playing a full game against Ohio State? Not even close.
September 11th, 2022 at 2:46 AM ^
September 11th, 2022 at 2:46 PM ^
I was being serious. J.J. showed some flashes in the Georgia game, but taking on the starter role in a full season against teams like Ohio State is another level of challenge.
I'm not saying that J.J can't or won't meet the challenge. He has the talent, clearly. I just want to see what he does.
September 11th, 2022 at 6:14 AM ^
Cade's wasn't actually that bad against UGA. Neither INT's were his fault and he was worse in some games during the season where he had a better statline.
That's one of the weird things about Cade's seasons last year, his statlines were not really indicative of how well/poorly he performed, and it goes both ways.
September 11th, 2022 at 1:02 AM ^
Sounds like JJ starting moving forward on merit, so Harbaugh gets to see if he can keep Cade around somehow.
I hope JJ has what it takes to have us finally beat OSU and win the big ten championship game, it’s been forever since a Michigan QB has helped lead us there.
September 11th, 2022 at 1:38 AM ^
Enough already! We get that you used and prefer your rotary land line, and that you don’t see the need for a smart phone, because the rotary land line was good enough.
September 11th, 2022 at 4:00 AM ^
D'hell you talk'n bout?
September 11th, 2022 at 1:03 AM ^
Darrius Cornelius Johnson finally got productive targets. That was good to see after some biffed targets at the beginning of the CSU game (and underutilization of Nico and DPJ before him). Sometimes when the offense gets so conservative (due to play calling or QB decisions or whatever), I bet CJ feels like the Maytag repairman out there. I am looking forward to some more verticality feeding these WRs some nice stats, and the team some nice points. That should feed back into how defenses need to play us and everything should click even better with a downfield passing game.
September 11th, 2022 at 1:11 AM ^
Who’s the backup next year? I want to know who this fanbase will start clamoring for.
September 11th, 2022 at 1:39 AM ^
ORJI IN THE END ZONE!
September 11th, 2022 at 7:01 AM ^
Give it up.
September 11th, 2022 at 11:33 AM ^
I know you are being a tool but the real answer is likely Davis. I don't think anyone will seriously believe that Dante will be ready ahead of even him. But if JJ is a part of this equation it will be a very quiet year on this front-except for a couple folks like you.
September 11th, 2022 at 1:19 AM ^
Good offense
September 11th, 2022 at 1:24 AM ^
Cade without Haskins feels different. It is almost like he lost his mojo when H2 graduated. JJ, wow. I don't think we've had a QB like that since Henson. I'm stoked!
September 11th, 2022 at 1:43 AM ^
Give me a break. Teams have a year of film on CM and call D to take away what he wants to do - throw shorter routes into the boundary. When that’s not there he won’t or can’t unleash the dragon, and he’s left with check downs short of the chains.
September 11th, 2022 at 1:53 AM ^
Harbaughs got to be pretty pissed about the offensive lines lack of blocking in the second and third quarters. Regardless of who the quarterback is… you have to block SOMEBODY!
September 11th, 2022 at 9:30 AM ^
JJ or Warren didn't seen to have any problems with blocking in the second and third quarters
September 11th, 2022 at 2:14 AM ^
I’m just going to sift through the ‘cade didn’t get a fair shot’ and ‘jj excelled against a Hawaiian middle school jv b team, just wait until he faces real competition’ comments
September 11th, 2022 at 11:58 AM ^
Did you find anything to read after you filtered those out?
September 11th, 2022 at 2:34 AM ^
I'm convinced Harbaugh knew what everyone became convinced of tonight. JJ was the guy, but you can't pull the QB who accomplished everything Cade did last year before the next season even starts--especially for a guy coming off surgery who hardly participated in practice all summer. Harbaugh had to do what he did with the QB's so everyone else could see what he knew. Given the non-conference schedule, he could afford to do it. Tonight we saw it. We move ahead with JJ and everyone in that locker room agrees. Harbaugh gave Cade what he earned: a chance to keep his job based on his results on the game field, not the practice field, and he lost it. I think it played out exactly how Harbaugh thought it would.
September 11th, 2022 at 11:14 AM ^
Jim may have believed in the high likelihood that JJ would play as he would...nobody thought that Cade wouldn't even show up.
September 11th, 2022 at 2:40 AM ^
I am amazed, in a bad way, how the offense ground to a complete halt with Cade under center.
I’m a big Cade fan and appreciate greatly what he did last season, but it is time for JJ. The offense was explosive and dynamic with him in.
I thought it looked like the o-line stoped blocking for Cade in the 2nd half.
That’s some tinfoil hat shit, sure, but it stuck out a bit.
September 11th, 2022 at 6:35 AM ^
Is Cade even the 2nd best QB right now? Everything looks so hard with him in there and twice now the 3rd string QB has come in and made it look better than it does with Cade
September 11th, 2022 at 7:47 AM ^
I’m curious to see the Webb-Gardner film breakdown, curious what happened with the blocking. Looked like an entirely different o-line when Cade came in. I saw a few film clips where defensive ends play more aggressively because they don’t have to respect the run. Do they stack the box and blitz or something?
September 11th, 2022 at 7:57 AM ^
A play with JJ happens in a second or two. Cades take much longer. There’s also enough film that even the Colorado states don’t fear anything over 10 yds so they load the box and pin their ears back.
September 11th, 2022 at 1:50 PM ^
I don't care how "pumped up" the Hawaii D was to get after Cade -- the M OL should have handled it. One play was on Zinter 100% whiffing on a block and the other pressure was a backup (I think?) doing the same thing. Two major whiffs in a row. Cade didn't have a chance to get set either time.
That being said, JJ's performance made it a moot point.
September 11th, 2022 at 7:55 AM ^
I didn’t see Edwards get banged up but read he was? Please tell me it’s not anything more than precautionary.
September 11th, 2022 at 8:17 AM ^
How badly hurt is Edwards?
September 11th, 2022 at 8:18 AM ^
It's been a while since I've had that much fun watching the Michigan offense...Like, since the last weekend of November last season.
September 11th, 2022 at 8:24 AM ^
This offense is loaded with talent. We won't see the whole playbook until OSU this year.
September 11th, 2022 at 8:26 AM ^
5 star Dante Moore liked Michigan's offense last night.
Hey Dante, we have a scholarship opening and ducks are lame mascots.
September 11th, 2022 at 11:10 AM ^
All the wailing and whining about the next recruiting class is likely to be great silliness by national signing day.
September 11th, 2022 at 8:42 AM ^
Under JJ: A++, a well oiled machine with great OL play, only one hiccup when Ronnie Bell dropped a pass from JJ then he made up for it. Corum and Edwards made their own great plays. And JJ; deadly accurate on his throws. He is poised, had command of the play calling with great decisions.
Under Cade: F, What Happened?! The OL failed to protect Cade so the sacks weren't all on him. Cade was inaccurate on his throws and had an INT. Cade has regressed-A LOT and its unfortunate.
Under Davis Warren: A- as the offense got rolling again and added two more scores.
Overall: A-.
September 11th, 2022 at 9:22 AM ^
No question JJ has earned the job, but something is really wrong with Cade right now. He has not been his best in any of his drives, and appears to be really having some confidence issues right now. I hope he settles in now that the spotlight of the competition is off.
Purely by play over two games, Cade has been 4th best QB, and he is clearly better than the other two guys. Need him back to full Cade to really make a run - we will need two QB's to achieve all goals this year.
September 11th, 2022 at 11:07 AM ^
From the beginning of the season it appeared, to me, as though Michigan could make a long run with any of 4 QBs. The two most unproven also held the most potential. I believe that, more than ever, Michigan has four QBS they can win a B1G championship with.
September 11th, 2022 at 9:46 AM ^
Cade played like he bet the under.
September 11th, 2022 at 10:00 AM ^
Went and bought a JJ jersey last night. Let’s go
September 11th, 2022 at 10:46 AM ^
For some reason this snowflake thread has more comments than all the others combined
September 11th, 2022 at 10:48 AM ^
At times I thought I was watching the local Land Grant institution tonight with the wide open receivers and the laser guided accuracy. Fun to watch it in maize and blue.
September 11th, 2022 at 11:49 AM ^
I haven’t seen a qb performance get me this excited since Henson. I’ve liked lots of qbs over the years but Henson and McCarthy just have the IT factor. Kind of like Trevor Lawrence who always seems two steps better than everyone around him.
September 11th, 2022 at 10:52 AM ^
When JJ's on the field he takes everyone along for the ride - the entire team seems more talented. Is this my imagination, or is this what great quarterbacks do?
September 11th, 2022 at 11:01 AM ^
This is what elite talent does-catalyzes everyone.
September 11th, 2022 at 10:56 AM ^
Davis Warren looked more viable as a back up QB.
September 11th, 2022 at 10:59 AM ^
Conspiracy theories aside, there are no interpretations or any analyses needing to be made here. This was an open book for all third graders to digest.
September 11th, 2022 at 7:25 PM ^
I love Ronnie Bell and him trying to show that he is better than he was before the injury, but feel that he was a bit over excited and tried too hard and took unnecessary risk fighting for a few extra non-essential yards.
September 12th, 2022 at 11:18 AM ^
"JJ O'Clock" struck completely at the interception.
I think my o-line concerns in the heat of last week's game were overreactive. Hayes' return fixed most of any holes that were there consistently against CSU. WRs are making things happen now and its interesting to see Roman Wilson continue to break out in front. RBs started breaking tackles, but again JJ's run threat helps open it up more and *it's Hawaii*