Has Beilein passed Izzo?

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Since 2010, Beilein has a 5-2 record against MSU, a big ten title, a Wooden Award winner, and a National championship game appearance. We lose Burke, Hardaway, and McGary and Beilein has this team poised for another Big Ten title and maybe more. 

fatbastard

January 26th, 2014 at 12:44 AM ^

Three years ago.

And now the Wolverines have surpassed the Spartans in the Big 10 hierarchy as well. 

Next year football will join, and all thing in the universe will return to normalcy.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

January 26th, 2014 at 1:21 AM ^

my cheese?  Izzo has lost his edge with all the whining - he has to win or it becomes poor sportsmanship.  We know where Crean learned hsi sense of style.

Beiliein, though, rises to a higher standard with his calm and positie approach.  

Tater

January 26th, 2014 at 1:52 AM ^

If it wasn't for the Chirs Webber Cesspool, Tom Izzo would be known as Jud Heathcoate v.2.  Izzo leveraged the Webber/Martin scandal into twelveyears of carte blanche when recruiting the state of Michigan and the midwest region.  

Izzo had access to an obscene amount of talent for twelve years, has had ESPN stumping for him for another eight, and  still only has one National Championship to show for it.  

Tom Izzo is a good coach, but not a great one.  I think Beilein is already better than Izzo.

Tater

January 26th, 2014 at 1:56 AM ^

I would love to see Izzo take an NBA job and show us all how great he is.  Sadly, he goofed by not taking the Cavs job a few years ago when his market value was higher than it is now.

kzooblue2016

January 26th, 2014 at 2:01 AM ^

Beilein certainly seems to be the better Xs and Os coach at this point. His ability to gameplan is incredible. It is hard to argue against Izzo's success, but give Beilein Izzo's path, and I think we would be looking at equal or more success. 

jmblue

January 26th, 2014 at 2:05 AM ^

Well, his program certainly has caught up to Izzo's, which is the most important thing.  This is the fourth straight year that Michigan and MSU have been tied, or close to it, in the Big Ten standings.  Four years is a trend, and there's no reason to believe it'll stop.

MSU has to be nervous about what's going on with Michigan.  They thought we were a flash in the pan with Burke/Hardaway and they'd bury us this season with them gone.  Now they're currently looking up to us in the standings.

 

aiglick

January 26th, 2014 at 2:51 AM ^

I wouldn't just say NC. Izzo is a good coach because he's been to 6 Final Fours out of 15 years. From a player's perspective so far under Izzo you can bet that at least one of your years you are going to be in the Final Four. That's a pretty powerful pitch. Interestingly, if they don't make it this year that will no longer be the case.

Personally, I think that Beilein has done an amazing job and is one of the best coaches in the nation. Hopefully we've got another 5-10 years with him at the helm.

Keep on plugging away team still ecstatic about that win.

810steveo

January 26th, 2014 at 2:50 AM ^

resume Izzo edges him out but if we are talking the here and now and going to in to the future then Beilein is starting to pull away from Izzo. The way Beilein was doing alot more with limted talent for a while but now he starting to pull in 1st round talent and you see him just take this program to whole new demintion that most havent seen since 80's and parts of the 90's and in the most roughest, deepest, and talented conference in the country. As for Izzo his career was made from a roll over accident that lead to investigation of the team and the firing of Fischer and the later impending sanctions that lead to what is known as "The Dark Ages" of Michigan Basketball.

Flocka

January 26th, 2014 at 3:00 AM ^

The job Beilein has done at Michigan could not be beat by anyone. If he can use his success to recruit a little better than he will get a nationa championship for Michigan and pass Izzo.

Mgoscottie

January 26th, 2014 at 2:54 PM ^

oops....well I did start watching in 2001, so most of what I saw from Carr was remarkably inconsistent in my defense....

Plus I think I'd take Beilein over Carr especially given the downfall of football post Carr.

Leonhall

January 26th, 2014 at 8:28 AM ^

they are both pretty equal with Izzo having had more success with the Natty championship and final fours. I also think State has a legitimate chance to win it all this year too. So there's that...we'll see...that being said, I applaud Beilein for at least equaling their program and bringing Michigan back. I never thought he could do it, I never cared for his offensive system, thought it relied on too much outside shooting which is nice when they are going in but stale when they are not, he has proven me wrong.

ehatch

January 26th, 2014 at 8:53 AM ^

They have had such different career paths that it is difficult to compare the 2.  There is no doubt that Izzo's list of accomplishments in terms of Final Fours and a NC is greater than Beilein.  Is it tougher to win a places like Richmond and Canisius rather than taking MSU to Final Fours and a NC?  From a PASE stand point Beilein is the best in the nation, and Izzo is 4th.  If Beilein had been at Michigan as long as Izzo has been at MSU, maybe his resume would be equal to or better than Izzo.  

Dustinlo

January 26th, 2014 at 9:08 AM ^

The problem is that our team lives and dies by the three. We're shooting it well now, but we are in trouble if it's not dropping on a night. But we are on a roll, and I hope it doesn't stop!

BlueCube

January 26th, 2014 at 1:42 PM ^

if the question is historically or based on current trajectory. I'd say not yet historically. I think Izzo has been left in the dust by current trajectory. He has another year or two before the full effects of Michigan's rise take effect along with the loss of his high quality players on the roster assuming the best will leave early. I'm not sure how he's going to handle this.

maquih

January 26th, 2014 at 6:15 PM ^

Not yet, but if Michigan gets a Final Four appearance this year and State does not, I think the consensus will be that Beilein is now a better coach.