Harbaugh, a maniacal genius or....

Submitted by BlueBalling on October 9th, 2019 at 12:04 PM

A friend of mine believes with all his heart that Harbaugh is pulling a 'rope a dope' and purposefully restraining the offense in an effort to throw the book at Ohio State in November.

I'm not sure if his theory is insane, confused, delusional, or brilliant.  It is worth noting that this person is quite intelligent and a medical doctor.  So, he at least holds the requisite I.Q. to be reasonably successful.

No better place to hash it out though, right?

wolve1972

October 9th, 2019 at 5:15 PM ^

Can't believe the subject. Some people honestly believe he's laying low for OSU ? Lose a couple of more like he did to Wisky and well, do I have to go any farther. And he was walking the tightrope with Iowa - at the Big House. Yeah, lay low in Happy Valley at the white out and tell me how that works out. Forget OSU, he better start being concerned about MSU, ND, and especially PSU. Can't believe how some still think Harbaugh is the 2nd coming of Bo - not even close.

Beaublue

October 9th, 2019 at 12:08 PM ^

I would like to think it was the last of your 4 choices.  But increasingly the evidence is that Harbaugh is not that good of a game manager.    I began to think this with his horrible management of the now infamous problematic punt in the MSU game and continues to terrible clock management - the lastest example being the end of the first half Iowa game. 

TCW

October 9th, 2019 at 12:19 PM ^

Don't disagree with the overall point, but I do question using the MSU punt game as an example.  I recall we ran the clock down as much as possible, and there wasn't an alternative to punting.  What would you have done differently, aside from reminding the punter what he should do if the worst possible thing were to happen on the snap?

Killer Khakis

October 9th, 2019 at 12:26 PM ^

Should have done what his brother did in Baltimore: have offensive line blatantly hold the defense to prevent them from crossing the line and have the punter run around till the clock runs out, then kneel. If the defense accepts the penalty all you have to do is kneel to win, and if they decline the penalties the game ends. That game had like 10 seconds, all reasonable to believe that we could have tried this tactic out. Obviously the D would have to hold the line back and the punter have awareness to just shank it if the defense breaks through, however it'd be a great tactic if deployed properly. 

maizedNblued

October 9th, 2019 at 3:08 PM ^

Just a reminder - our punter dropped the ball....which is about as, percentage-wise, rare as rarest things go. From that exact moment, that game and all of its moving parts goes from Head Coach to player - the punter should have just smothered the ball or whacked it as far to the sideline/forward as he could but who actually trains for that.

 

Beaublue

October 9th, 2019 at 12:27 PM ^

I will confess to have never intentionally watched a reply of "the punt".   However I am told that Michigan had "gunners" despite MSU having no return man.   The time management before the point was poor.  IIRC,  M ran 3 straight off tackle plays.   If they ran to the wide side boundary they likely never would have even needed a 4th down play. 

jmblue

October 9th, 2019 at 12:42 PM ^

I would put that more on the special teams coordinator, John Baxter.  Yes, Harbaugh is the head coach and ultimately responsible for the program, but having the best formation for the situation was specifically Baxter's job.  Incidentally he was gone after the season (to USC), whether that was coincidental or not.

kalamazoo

October 11th, 2019 at 9:34 AM ^

If the 3 previous runs each ran off an extra 2.5 seconds minimum as "keep-away" runs, running to the outside at a minimum, instead of straight up the middle, how would that have changed the game management of 4th down?

I think that is the point...Michigan ran off closer to the "minimum" amount of time on runs instead of the "maximum".

You get to a certain point and you may not even punt on 4th down because if 2 seconds or less available, you may just keep it and run again.

Yes, always issue with potential fumbles running crazier plays, but these guys can put two arms on the ball for 3 plays to make it effectively nil.

It is just one example...there are several.

Tuebor

October 9th, 2019 at 1:00 PM ^

Once you realized that MSU was bringing all 11 and you had gunners lined up wide, I'd have been screaming my head off to take a delay of game.  "DON'T SNAP IT".  Run out to the numbers, do anything possible to get a chance to reset. Then call a max protect punt and have the kicker boot it out of bounce.  Then put the defense on the field to defend a Hail Mary / Hook and Lateral type play.

 

snarling wolverine

October 9th, 2019 at 3:16 PM ^

I remember it, but I also remember lots of failed Hail Mary attempts in the 25 years since then.

The ball was on MSU's side of the 50 (look at the photo) and it was 4th and 2.  We had just gained eight yards on the previous three plays, so there was a decent chance we'd convert.   Even if not, I'd take my chances with one play on defense.

Or you pooch it.  I just don't like a 15-yard snap in that situation.

Greg McMurtry

October 9th, 2019 at 10:17 PM ^

Actually, we did not run the clock down as much as possible. I recall distinctly that we ran Deveon straight up the middle for no gain which tool 2 seconds each play, which made absolutely no sense. Give the ball to Jabrill and have him run around for 5-10 seconds and the punt never happens because the clock runs out. I thought this before we even punted. It was like how is there still time on the clock? It was inconceivable that there was still time on the clock. Go back and watch.

MGoStrength

October 9th, 2019 at 12:11 PM ^

Being a doctor means they are good at being a doctor.  It doesn't mean they understand what goes into being a CFB coach.  I highly doubt JH is willing to drop games against previous opponents in order to surprise OSU.  Maybe he's holding stuff out for OSU, but that still wouldn't explain the lack of cohesion on offense and poor play by numerous positions.

DrMantisToboggan

October 9th, 2019 at 12:19 PM ^

Yes. I don't understand the logic behind "this person is very smart and accomplished in this particular field, therefore they are an insightful commentator on all things."

This happens in a lot of areas outside of football, obviously, which is where it is more irksome.

But anyways, OP, your friend is delusional. Delusional is the answer.

Blue4LifeNC

October 9th, 2019 at 12:23 PM ^

Yea, I hate that idea as well.  I'm an engineer, and I'm knowledgeable in my domain of software, but if you ask me to explain the intricate details of shading a B-gap in 4-3 coverage, well sorry, I'm not able to do that.  I mostly see large planetoid humans intent on wrecking eachother fly around the field at speeds I could never imagine.

BlueGill

October 9th, 2019 at 12:37 PM ^

Lemma: A nullspace is defined for the extrapolation of the ability of someone who is an expert on a given field to an orthogonal or even near perfect projection space.

Really, Don Brown would be equivalent to a PhD in physics but he would be a terrible manager (ala Harbaugh). The latter would be more akin to a jack of all trade type of person.

MGoStrength

October 9th, 2019 at 12:58 PM ^

I don't understand the logic behind "this person is very smart and accomplished in this particular field, therefore they are an insightful commentator on all things.

Agreed...this always drives me crazy when people say "my doctor said..." in regards to exercise or nutrition without considering I have a graduate degree in exercise science yet their doctor has no courses in their MD program in exercise or nutrition.