Dinich: B1G response "coming early this afternoon"
November 10th, 2023 at 8:56 AM ^
That would be the most logical course of action, and would follow a century of precedent, but with Pettiti, who knows?
November 10th, 2023 at 10:09 AM ^
Agreed. It would be incredibly foolish to impose a punishment today. I just don’t see it happening.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:55 AM ^
guys, the last laugh comes when jh icily stares at pettiti when he grabs the b1g trophy and hoists it into a rainstorm of maize and blue confetti. just ball.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:58 AM ^
Agree - on the eve of the biggest game to date this season for us to boot. I haven't seen anyone mention this, but given that the office of the conference holds so much power and influence, I have concerns about getting a fair shake on the field with the refs, maybe not so much tomorrow because this is evolving so quickly but at least for ref selection for The Game. Maybe that's too much 2016 PTSD in me talking but the B1G does not give me the warm and fuzzies.
November 10th, 2023 at 9:06 AM ^
I'm concerned about this as well, Comrade.
November 10th, 2023 at 9:13 AM ^
Pre roundtable I suggested this and expressed concern. Brian told me to not bring it up until after it happens. He was/is right but it doesn't mean I don't have some worry.
November 10th, 2023 at 10:06 AM ^
I have to think that UM has something in the barrel for such a situation. No doubt they have a lot of info on the conferences officials - their tendencies, histories, how they adjudicate turmoil on the field, etc... I'm not going to worry about this so much for PSU because I believe the shutout possibilities are real. Michigan wins this game with 20 points, probably with 17.
November 10th, 2023 at 10:23 AM ^
You aren't being paranoid if they really are out to get you.
November 10th, 2023 at 11:25 AM ^
I don’t know. I have heard stories about referees not liking to be told how to referee a game. It may in fact make them do the exact opposite. It’s the one time they are the boss and don’t have to listen to anyone.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:28 AM ^
Aren't federal buildings closed today in observance of veteran's day?
November 10th, 2023 at 8:45 AM ^
Yes, the courts are closed today for Veteran's Day.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:47 AM ^
Forgive my ignorance so how does that work?
They just show up on a judge's doorstep? Not trying to be a smart ass.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:57 AM ^
Currently you hire PI's to hound otherwise reputable people until they do what you want. I just learned this.
November 10th, 2023 at 10:05 AM ^
There are always emergency judges designated per a Local Admin. Order for court closures and holidays. You're really only supposed to use them for things that can't wait and mostly on criminal matters. So let's say today, Michigan is expecting Big Ten to drop the hammer at 3. Federal court is technically closed, but the "on-call judge" will be there to field any emergencies. They may or may not be the judge assigned to hear the case, but they can still grant a TRO resolution of an injunction by the assigned judge on an emergency basis. I'm sure Michigan's attorneys have called the clerk and inquired about contingency plans.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:36 AM ^
They can get an injunction today.
I don’t think Harbaugh is getting suspended.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:41 AM ^
Eh, my guess this is just a fine at this point and nothing more. A Friday “news dump” to make it appear you did something without having to fully tuck tail and run.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:57 AM ^
This is most likely. Or Petite just waits on the NCAA.
Its the safest decision.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:42 AM ^
Can someone help me understand this? I'm so confused. When I first saw the story about B1G schools asking the commish to punish Michigan, I assumed "sources" and that it wasn't true at all. It's seeming like it is. So is it really all 13 B1G ADs? I thought I heard coaches, but lately I've been hearing people say ADs. If it's all 13, there's no anonymity about this, right? Are any (or all) of them on record?
November 10th, 2023 at 8:52 AM ^
I doubt it is all 13. Frankly, I think there are a lot of coaches and ADs in the conference who don’t really give a damn about this.
If I’m reading between the lines at public comments, my guess is Bert, Mork, Shiano and Walters are pushing hard, with Associate AD Urban Meyer making noise behind the scenes.
November 10th, 2023 at 9:13 AM ^
You forgot 3B Day.
November 10th, 2023 at 9:37 AM ^
I think Day is more of a front man. I just think he does what he is told.
November 10th, 2023 at 9:51 AM ^
You think it's just a coincidence that the PIs are Day's little brother and his old high school buddy?.
November 10th, 2023 at 9:52 AM ^
Wait, I knew about his brother, but what's this about an old high school buddy?
November 10th, 2023 at 10:03 AM ^
Check the background on the head of the PI firm they supposedly actually hired. Sort of randomly happens to have gone to the same high school as some other people we know.
Not their first NCAA job, supposedly. Apparently they get used a lot, or that's what I've read from some supposedly connected OSU folk. (Who don't mention the Manchester business of course.)
November 10th, 2023 at 10:24 AM ^
I think I've missed some stuff. What is the firm they supposedly actually hired?
November 10th, 2023 at 10:55 AM ^
I should start taking notes; this is all getting too big for my tiny brain. I can't put my hands on the high school connection. But here's what I can find:
1. The firm, supposedly, is Beacon Investigative Solutions. Has an office in Portsmouth NH but is headquartered in Columbus, OH.
2. The President/CEO of Beacon is Mike Orchard, a grad of Cincinnati (after doing his first two years at what's now Utah Tech) and Indiana Law. I can't find anything now about where he's originally from (I'm sure I saw this but I don't know where) but I do see a report that he's apparently a linkedin friend of Christopher Day. According to his Orchard's linked in he "consulted on large-scale undercover drug investigations for the private sector."
Orchard is also listed as the chief investigator for the Portsmouth office.
I'm starting to wonder if the HS thing was bad info. But there's certainly a whiff of a connection.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:55 AM ^
I really doubt all 13 are invested in this. It's probably just a handful, with the rest sitting on the fence.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:58 AM ^
Is there one solid article that seems to have the best info on this?
November 10th, 2023 at 7:50 AM ^
If you mess with the bull, you get the horns. Let’s go!
November 10th, 2023 at 7:51 AM ^
Or even better, throw the bullsh*t at the Big Ten.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:55 AM ^
Mess with the bull, get the shit
November 10th, 2023 at 7:51 AM ^
I'm surprised it doesn't come at 11:55 tomorrow so there would be no time to file the TRO.
Screw the B!G and screw Petitti.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:53 AM ^
I say Petitti blinks.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:57 AM ^
"Michigan is hereby required to donate $100,000 to the Future Spies of America Foundation to further the education of tomorrow's spies. Furthermore, I've got nothing."
November 10th, 2023 at 8:02 AM ^
I only wish that when I was young someone had told me that I could be a spy hunter. This is a worthy cause!
November 10th, 2023 at 8:15 AM ^
Every night your line is busy, all that buzzing makes me dizzy dizzy
November 10th, 2023 at 8:42 AM ^
You just weren’t paying attention. There was even an electronic trainer made by Nintendo…
November 10th, 2023 at 8:49 AM ^
It worked for The Last Starfighter
November 10th, 2023 at 9:06 AM ^
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
November 10th, 2023 at 8:55 AM ^
That would have worked well on the B&W TV.
November 10th, 2023 at 7:58 AM ^
Probably. If the optics that the conference is biased weren't already bad, suspending a coach while the team is getting on the plane would be incredible. Even the more anti Michigan media figures would struggle to be ok with that level of meddling in the competition.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:03 AM ^
He either blinks, or he's even stupider than he looks
November 10th, 2023 at 8:03 AM ^
November 10th, 2023 at 8:09 AM ^
I'm going to go with 2. I think he will probably think he can "get by" with a 2 game and that leaves a big TV setup for the OSU showdown for baughs "big return" <eyeroll>
November 10th, 2023 at 8:09 AM ^
Wouldn't 3 require convening the other ADs?
November 10th, 2023 at 10:28 AM ^
yes- per the BT rules, but they seem to ignore rules anyway.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:11 AM ^
Eh, I don’t really see it that way. Pettiti can easily back down. OSU and the other whiners grossly exaggerated the impact of the violations and plenty of new information has come out since Pettiti made his dumb comment about this being the worst scandal ever. All Pettiti needs to do is say, “I have reconsidered based on new information and now I ain’t doing shit to Michigan.” He wouldn’t lose face at all. But if he orders a suspension and it gets enjoined by a court, now that would be embarrassing.
November 10th, 2023 at 8:17 AM ^
Agree, the biggest thing being the Purdue/Rutgers/OSU bit. He could easily say, “given the evidence of advanced scouting throughout the conference, while the letter of the NCAA rules could have been violated, there is no violation of sportsmanship”.
November 10th, 2023 at 9:01 AM ^
He doesn't even have to say anything conclusive. Just that given the new developments, it is only prudent to defer to the NCAA investigation for the time being.
November 10th, 2023 at 9:53 AM ^
An alternative is to give the same slap on the wrist (fine, reprimand) to all four schools.
That would probably have the support of anyone that's involved in the collusion but hasn't been outed yet.