CFB's Most Valuable Teams, aka Unleash the Money Cannon

Submitted by SteelCityMafia on September 12th, 2019 at 1:17 PM

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2019/09/12/college-football-most-valuable-clemson-texas-am/#69dad603a2e7

 

Michigan slots in at #3 on the list (behind TAMU and Texas at 1 and 2, respectively). Three year average revenue of $139 million with $83 million profit.

 

OSU comes in at 5, ND at 8, PSU at 13, Nebraska at 20, Iowa at 21, MSU at 22, Wisconsin at 23.

 

Curiously Clemson is 25 while Tennessee is 12, so more money does not always equal to more success.

 

Can we finally unleash the money cannon? With the California governor having 30 days to sign or veto the "profit from likeness" bill, which state is the next to follow suit - Texas, Florida, one of the southern states?

SteelCityMafia

September 12th, 2019 at 1:20 PM ^

I'm more tired of having the athletic department sit on piles of cash that are bigger than basically anyone else's while other schools pay players under the table.

 

The current rules are a clear disadvantage for Michigan and, to me, it's foolish to want those current rules to continue if you want Michigan be compete nationally at the sport of your choosing.

MGlobules

September 12th, 2019 at 1:33 PM ^

Curious whether you are an alum? I welcome any and all support for UM sports and think holier-than-thou posturing on this question usually only signals ignorance of how things work top to bottom, but I am sometimes interested how this shakes out between alums and others. As an alum, I feel constrained to keep the U away from outright corruption. (I also sometimes think alums are more tolerant of two- or three-loss seasons. . . )

SteelCityMafia

September 12th, 2019 at 1:43 PM ^

I am not, but I do have several family members who are. Two/three loss seasons, while not preferred, are not abhorrent to me. I simply look at the sustained, high-level of success that programs like OSU, Oklahoma, Clemson (more recently) have had and potential roadblocks for Michigan to achieve that level (minus OSU, obviously). The basketball (and now baseball) teams' deep runs in the past decade have fueled this thought - it just always seems like Michigan winds up losing in the end to a team more willing to push the envelope (sometimes literally) or bend the rules. Again, a runner-up finish is nothing to be angry or ashamed about.

 

Alabama is in their own zipcode and it'll be interesting to see how much they regress once Saban is done, especially with the (general) lack of success from Saban's coaching tree.

myislanduniverse

September 12th, 2019 at 2:26 PM ^

To your last point, I think a good large part of this hinges on the fact that you can walk away from a loss of a sports game, and that doesn't affect your "Michigan identity" at all. As a fan only, their identity is tied up inextricably with the product on the field, whereas students and alumni, they walk out of that stadium W or L and there's still so much more to being a Wolverine.

mitchewr

September 12th, 2019 at 3:13 PM ^

The question I've been asking myself lately is this:

If just about everyone is paying players / recruits, then what's the point of following the rule for the few who do?

Consider 100+ year old state or city laws that sit on the books. Example: "If you ever find yourself driving at night through rural parts of Pennsylvania, state law requires that you stop every mile to send up a rocket signal...this absurd Pennsylvania law is technically still on the books." (https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/top-craziest-laws-still-on-the-books)

At some point, everyone just stops paying attention to old laws that no one follows any more.

So my question is, if no one in NCAA football (or basketball for that matter) is paying attention to the "can't pay players / recruits" rule, then...why should we? Simply adhering to an "old" / "outdated" law / rule for the sake of tradition or some sort of virtue signaling is pointless imo.

If we and a few others are the only ones who are going to follow this rule, then what's the point? What are we accomplishing? Ultimately, it's the NCAA's fault for utterly ignoring this behavior, but at some point it's time to put the ancient code of law down and maintain the "flow of traffic" so to speak. 

OldMaize16

September 12th, 2019 at 3:55 PM ^

I don’t understand why everyone just assumes Michigan is completely clean. Why would a kid with would you believe to be dirty offers just turn down extra benefits to attend UM? For the love of the university, I’m sorry but that’s just not the reality except for a small minority of the athletes. If you believe we are completely clean you are delusional

1VaBlue1

September 12th, 2019 at 1:23 PM ^

Clemson is (probably) at 25 because they report a low profit.  Lots of 'team expenses' eat into that profit.  No doubt all under the table cash transactions, but they come out of profit nonetheless...

1VaBlue1

September 12th, 2019 at 1:52 PM ^

Revenue would have more to do with the lack of an ACC Network, until this year.  The B1G Network is pushing upwards of $40M to each school.  That immediately puts the ACC schools $40M behind.  They'll be okay, the poor things...  I'm sure ACC croots aren't lacking for any (ahem) amenities from the teams that will gleefully provide them (looking at you, Clemson).

BoHarb

September 12th, 2019 at 1:32 PM ^

It's hard to be the only school that doesn't cheat.  A lone beacon of integrity among a dumpster fire of "academic" institutions. And people wonder why we're arrogant - Leaders and Best is more than a slogan - we truly are the best.

lilpenny1316

September 12th, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^

I'm hoping they had a bunch of developers sign NDAs a few years ago and have been secretly building a new game.

Here's what's never been explained to me.  Why can't they develop a college football game and not use any actual player numbers or biographical information?  Leave it up to the guys at Operation Sports to create custom rosters.

lostwages

September 12th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

Great hot take Spicoli...

EA is THE(tm) Worst game developer out there. Their approach would be to blow up the building instead of dusting anything off, rebuilding it as a time-share, with lavish furniture, and failing to install workstations or servers, in favor of Commodor 64s

StephenRKass

September 12th, 2019 at 2:04 PM ^

Thanks for posting this. Interesting information. I am one of those who is not a big fan of the "money cannon," if that means finding ways to pay players under the table. Now, I love the money cannon in terms of trips around the world, investing in facilities, investing in academic support, etc. It would be naive and perhaps disingenuous to think that Michigan is pure as the driven snow, and at the same time thinking all of our competitors are "cheaters." But in general, I think Harbaugh wants to do things the right way, and I am 100% in support of that.

MGoStrength

September 12th, 2019 at 2:27 PM ^

Remember that getting paid for likeness is not the same as getting paid by the school.  UM's football profit is irrelevant since they still can't pay the players. 

jmblue

September 12th, 2019 at 4:58 PM ^

We may want to clarify: that $83 million profit figure is for the football program only, not the athletic department as a whole.  Most of it is spent by the AD (mostly to subsidize other sports).  Our actual profit is surprisingly modest, given how much we take in.