Cavs and Beilein Discussing Parting Ways

Submitted by HelloHeisman91 on February 16th, 2020 at 11:05 PM

I’m excited for the Howard era but have to wonder what would have been.  Beilein must be kicking himself. 

 

 

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1229254135385673728?s=21

 

lhglrkwg

February 17th, 2020 at 7:44 AM ^

Part of me wonders if he might ease into retirement at a smaller school. Seems like his annoyance with college was recruiting top prospects and getting good players to stay. If he likes being a coach, I could see him ending up at a smaller D1 program where those two things aren't as big an issue. Maybe one back in WNY if he wants to retire near home? Hard to say though. I never would've though he'd leave Michigan for the Cavs so I don't know what he'll do

FlexUM

February 17th, 2020 at 8:49 AM ^

Kind of wild when you think about it, right? Don't want to get political here at all but it is a little crazy when you think how old the current president is then add biden, bloom, and bern to the list that's an old ass crew starting a new job that I would imagine would be so stressful you'd want your head to explode to ease the pain. Plus, add to that the money really has no factor as it's rather low compared to how much the candidates have. 

jmblue

February 16th, 2020 at 11:53 PM ^

It's not going to happen.  Archie Miller has a giant buyout that all but guarantees him a fourth year at IU.  

Some other college program might be interested, but I think it's more likely that Beilein - who had heart surgery not that long ago, remember - is just going to retire.

jmblue

February 17th, 2020 at 12:12 AM ^

If you take a look at the IU blogs, the issue of the buyout comes up again and again.  This isn't a school with a 100,000-seat football stadium that is always sold out.  Not every school is in our financial position, even with Big Ten money.

Donors are wild cards.  Some are probably invested in seeing Miller succeed.  It's not guaranteed that they'll all step up to the plate if Miller is fired.  And really, why would they want to go all-in for a coach of Beilein's age?  If you want long-term stability, he's not the guy to go for.

kookie

February 17th, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^

IU is in the middle of a search for a new athletic director. Nothing is going to happen to Archie until they find one. But, he is probably gone once he does. The new AD should have enough pull to gather the money for any buyout. Plus, JB might be cheap if the Cavs are paying most/all of his salary.

HailHail47

February 16th, 2020 at 11:08 PM ^

I would hate to see him at another college team. I’m sure he’s regretting leaving Michigan right now. He took a gamble that doesn’t seem like it’s paying off. 

1201 S. Main St.

February 17th, 2020 at 1:32 PM ^

Seems like if he truly just wants to kind of settle down, and ease into retirement, he should coach a lower division school or even a quality high school (although some of those parents....eeesh).  I could see him taking a small D2 coaching job, but I have a hard time seeing him taking a smaller DI school given the success he's had and that it really wouldn't change many of the issues he was having with the NCAA.  I could see him taking a high school job just if he wants something to do and to be around basketball, but really, no matter where he goes, assuming he is going to coach, he isn't going to be able to escape some of the things he hated about the NCAA.  Wish him the best, but him leaving for the Cavs was an odd career move, but at least he gave it a shot.  

1201 S. Main St.

February 17th, 2020 at 5:04 PM ^

That'd be kind of a great way to finish out his career if he still wanted to continue coaching.  I think he'd really like the Ivy League atmosphere and I could see him fitting in really well there.  Solid idea, it'd still be DI and he would have a chance to get into March Madness, but, overall, it'd be less recruiting, less emphasis on winning, wouldn't be dealing with the same level of recruits, it would be a really nice way to coach while also scaling back some of the things he hated about the NCAA.

TrueBlue2003

February 16th, 2020 at 11:54 PM ^

The crazy thing is, how much of a gamble was it?  Gambling usually involves chance.  There was zero chance the Cavs wouldn't be horrible and there was zero chance he'd enjoy working with NBA players. 

So it's crazy that somehow he's not happy collecting the paycheck and taking summers off which was the only reason this made any sense.  And the Cavs can't really be unhappy since all they could have hoped for this year was to tank.

Tacopants

February 17th, 2020 at 5:56 AM ^

John Beilein isn't the type of guy who is content hanging out and collecting paychecks. That's the reason he's getting canned.  His attempts to make the Cavs better are falling on deaf ears.

 

I'd guess that he takes a few months to recharge and then takes another high-major job. There will be no shortage of suitors.

blueheron

February 17th, 2020 at 8:01 AM ^

Here's another take: Beilein seems very self-aware. I think he was done with college basketball and also that he was prepared for anything with Cleveland. I'm sure he would've preferred to leave a bigger mark on the Cavs, but he may not be despondent -- or even close -- about what actually happened.

woosterwolverine1224

February 16th, 2020 at 11:08 PM ^

I know there were some hard feelings about when he left, but I totally understand him trying to make it work in the NBA. I think Michigan was extremely lucky that they were able to get Juwan and land on it's feet. I hope JB is always welcomed with open arms at Michigan, this program would not be where it is without him.

JamieH

February 16th, 2020 at 11:19 PM ^

I think in a lot of ways Howard has softened the blow and reduced hard feelings about Beilein.  Beilein left us in a terrible place, but it ended up being somewhat of a blessing in disguise.  I don't know that Howard will be the same level of coach Beilein was, but at best Beilein was going to stick around for about 5 more years and we would have had to move on anyway.  And I highly doubt we would have gotten anyone better than Howard at least from his early returns.