Bovada Heisman Odds - Shea Patterson tied for 3rd
As of yesterday, Shea Patterson is tied for third with (little D)wayne Haskins for odds to win the Heisman trophy at 14/1. Kyler Murray is 2nd at 6/1. Tua Tagovailoa is at 1/10 (yes, 1/10 - ridiculous).
Now, I don't think Shea has a very legitimate shot at this year's Heisman, but I am thrilled with these current odds for what they mean about national recognition for Shea and the program. Also, I would venture to put him as a top 3 candidate for next year's Heisman if he chooses to return.
November 6th, 2018 at 10:07 AM ^
Prognosis: no.
I don't think Shea will finish even Top 7 in voting. Tua, Murray, Minshew, Grier, Haskins, Taylor, Henderson...lots of big numbers guys out there.
November 6th, 2018 at 1:44 PM ^
lots of Bucknuts calling for Haskins to be said or at least to start rolling Tate Martell out there more. I don't think he will get there. I agree with your prognosis though.
November 6th, 2018 at 10:08 AM ^
If he comes back, he might become the first Michigan QB to go to New York in my lifetime (ever?). But this year? Nah.
November 6th, 2018 at 10:13 AM ^
I could certainly see him going to NY if he comes back. Another whole offseason to progress with DPJ, Black, and Collins (etc.). Four of five OL coming back. Offense could be really great next year. I certainly think Shea has more to think about NFL-wise than he thought he would before the year. He won't be drafted in the first two rounds as of today.
November 6th, 2018 at 10:18 AM ^
This is such a horrible QB draft class that I actually could see someone drafting him in the second round (Broncos and Giants come to mind)
November 6th, 2018 at 10:28 AM ^
I'm not sure NFL scouts agree with you. Giants will probably take Herbert from Oregon first overall. Haskins and Drew Lock will probably be first rounders as well. This isn't such a bad draft class that teams who need QBs will pass on them in the first round. Finley, Jones, and Grier would go before Shea too. Possibly Stidham as well. Somebody will draft Jake Browning as well, and the Rypien kid from Boise gets love too. There's at least 7 or 8 QBs that I'd guess are ahead of Shea on draft boards, which probably translates to round 3 or 4.
Edit: Did some research. If Shea were the 8th QB drafted, in last year's draft that would have put him in the 5th round (Mike White - WKU/DAL), in the 2017 draft that would have put him in the 5th round (Nathan Peterman - PIT/BUF), and in the 2016 draft that would have put him in the 4th round (Dak Prescott - MSU/DAL). Seems like a safe bet that Shea would be a late 4th rounder or 5th rounder if the draft were tomorrow.
November 6th, 2018 at 11:37 AM ^
I agree with most of what you're saying, but it sounds like Herbert may be staying at Oregon for another year.
As much as I like Shea, the Giants taking him on day 2 as their first QB of the draft would be a monumentally stupid move and would set him up for a similar career trajectory to Deshone Kizer.
November 6th, 2018 at 11:43 AM ^
Herbert staying at Oregon when he's almost guaranteed to be a top 10 pick would be astonishing. I'm not plugged in to matters Oregon, but I'd be shocked.
November 6th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^
Are there actual talks of Haskins going to the NFL Draft? I don't know if that would be a blessing or disaster for OSU. Maybe Urban is starting to see the writing on the wall, and the foundation that he created at OSU is slowing crumbling.
November 6th, 2018 at 12:10 PM ^
Yes. He's a top 3 QB in college football, he's eligible and solidly projected as a first round pick, and there's serious questions as to whether his head coach will still be there next year.
He should absolutely go and get his money, especially since he probably would land with a better franchise drafting their QB of the future (maybe Pittsburgh as BR approaches 40?), not with a struggling franchise in the first few picks.
November 6th, 2018 at 12:04 PM ^
I seriously doubt all three of Runyan, Onwenu, and Bredeson will return. IMHO I'd be surprised if more than 1 returns. Especially if we make the playoffs.
November 6th, 2018 at 12:07 PM ^
I'd be surprised if any of them left. Bredeson has the best case, but even he probably isn't going as high as the second round.
Onwenu and Runyan will absolutely not go.
November 6th, 2018 at 9:52 PM ^
What?!? U r clueless, None of them will leave, only lose jbb to graduation
November 6th, 2018 at 10:19 AM ^
A former Michigan QB named Jim Harbaugh finished 3rd in the Heisman voting in 1986. I'm not sure if he went to NYC.....but he certainly would have in today's Heisman format.
November 6th, 2018 at 10:45 AM ^
It would appear that Harbaugh was invited to New York, but did not go: https://www.nytimes.com/1986/12/07/sports/testaverde-awarded-heisman.html
The award had been conceded to Testaverde long ago. But to suggest a measure of uncertainty, the club had invited five other ''leading candidates'' to the ceremonies. Three proved to be good sports by actually showing up: Palmer, Bosworth and Lockbaum.
November 6th, 2018 at 11:59 AM ^
Paul Palmer of Temple should be the final answer on Sports Jeopardy.
November 6th, 2018 at 10:09 AM ^
A few more big games and he could get invited to New York, and Bovada agrees. Tua's gonna win, of course, but I can't think of many other options to be the other invited nominees. Having a Harbaugh-coached QB as a finalist would be great for the publicity and recruiting.
November 6th, 2018 at 12:21 PM ^
I think this is a good sign. Based on the first 9 games, no, he's not a finalist. But they could be projecting that big performances are on the horizon -- especially if he gets unleashed vs OSU.
November 6th, 2018 at 10:09 AM ^
Haskins isn't winning the Heisman when his last game will feature two pick-sixes
November 6th, 2018 at 11:08 AM ^
....but aren't those still completions and td passes???
November 6th, 2018 at 10:41 AM ^
This year? I would be shocked if he ended up in the top 6-7 but reading this is nice all the same and a compliment to how well he has been doing.
Next year, if he stayed? Call me intrigued.
November 6th, 2018 at 10:41 AM ^
I think Shea is outstanding and has the tools to be a Heisman finalist, but the way we utilize him right now doesn't seem conducive to even being considered as a Heisman candidate. We run on like 70% of our plays or something like that, with him accounting for a small fraction of those. Again, he is outstanding and excels almost every time we use him, but we don't use him that much and Heisman finalists have gaudy stats.
November 6th, 2018 at 10:48 AM ^
Shea is a game manager on a team that is run-centric. He won't win any Heismans throwing the ball 10 to 20 times per game. Whatever works for Michigan to win. You can have the Heisman.
Actually, Higdon should have a better shot than Shea.
November 6th, 2018 at 11:04 AM ^
Agree 100%... Just win baby win...
November 6th, 2018 at 11:29 AM ^
Seriously, I hate the QB bias. Higdon should finish in the top 5. The RB from Clemson should too. He's electric.
November 6th, 2018 at 8:37 PM ^
Agreed. This has just become a top QB award in recent years.
November 6th, 2018 at 11:10 AM ^
I put $50 on Shea before the season at 20-1. Unfortunately, Tua is going to win it...
November 6th, 2018 at 11:50 AM ^
Love Shea but this is definitely a long shot at best. Go Blue!
November 6th, 2018 at 11:56 AM ^
At this point, is anyone other than Tua going to get an invite to the ceremony?
November 6th, 2018 at 12:13 PM ^
As long as ESPN televises the ceremony, they will invite other sacrificial lambs to the ceremony. Maybe the other finalists will pull a TO and have a celebration at their school.
November 6th, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
I think it would be hilarious if Tua was the only one to show up...and he didn't win!!! Would serve ESPN right.