Bold Prediction Time (SP+ Edition)

Submitted by BlueLikeJazz on September 26th, 2019 at 1:34 PM

The impetus for this post is that this week has been full of both excessive pessimism and hopeful optimism on this board, with haughty statements about how we're going to look back at the end of the season and see how right you were in your perspective.

So it's time to put your Eeyore or Pollyana self on the record, via an end of season SP+ prediction. For reference, find below Michigan's final SP+ rankings (just overall offense and defense, nothing more specific) over Harbaugh's tenure, as well as their ranks after week 4 this season. 

In the comments, a simple prediction of final offense and defense rankings is all we need. Whether you think everything sucks or everything's gonna be ok, put your money where your mouth is.

Year        Off         Def

2015        34          10

2016         35          3

2017         49          5

2018         25          9

2019          72         12

 

It's interesting (if depressing) to realize that the offense has never been very good under Harbaugh. This year is a huge disappointment (so far) but it wouldn't take that much change to get them back in the range his offenses have typically ended up. (Better TO luck would go a long way by itself).

So anyway, my prediction is Offense: 35   Defense: 15

JPC

September 26th, 2019 at 1:37 PM ^

It's amazing that this is what the #12 defense looks like. There must be a huge gulf between "top 10" and "top 5."

JonnyHintz

September 26th, 2019 at 1:50 PM ^

The defense didn’t play poorly at all in either of the first two games. They were put in bad spots by offensive turnovers, and gave up points as a result. Plus a garbage time 80 yard drive against MTSU that wouldn’t factor into these rankings anyway. But they performed well. 

Wisconsin pushed us around a bit, but that’s the first time I’d say we didn’t look like a top 10-15 unit. 

 

Harbaugh's Lef…

September 26th, 2019 at 1:37 PM ^

I swear, the defense looks far worse than 12, thus far. Even with the short field issues in the first two games.

I use to get excited when the defense came on the field, looking forward to them destroying the opposing offense, now I'm just terrified.

joeyb

September 26th, 2019 at 2:20 PM ^

It doesn't think this is the #12 defense. SP+ isn't a ranking system (backward-looking). SP+ is a tool to predict scores of games (forward-looking). He specifically created a ranking system last year based on SP+ because SP+ was being misused which created an area of need for him to do so. What this says is that, relative to the teams played, Michigan's defense has performed at a level that sets expectations of them being the 12th best defense going forward. 2 caveats: Michigan did perform better than Wisconsin's opponents (that will change through the season or this loss won't look quite as bad) and preseason expectations are still being factored in because it makes his predictions more accurate.

UMmasotta

September 26th, 2019 at 1:43 PM ^

I know SP+ normally phases out pre-season assumptions (which are in part dependent on last year's performance/returning talent) over the first few weeks of the season. Given the #12 ranking on the defense, I'm assuming there is still some of that baked into the results. 

On the other hand, that #72 offense... woof.

Killer Khakis

September 26th, 2019 at 1:45 PM ^

Offense will probably finish around 50 or 60, defense around 15-20 if I had to guess and we go 7-5 on the year. Not a good look, especially with what was supposed to be a deep, talented, experienced team we kept on hearing and expecting. 

GOMBLOG

September 26th, 2019 at 3:48 PM ^

I don’t see this defense in the top 25.  A one dimensional Wisconsin exposed UM’s defense and just think what a more balanced team with athletes on the outside is going to do. 

Offense top 50

Defense around 40

It’s funny that UM had the 21st ranked scoring offense last season and now we have this. 

mitchewr

September 26th, 2019 at 1:50 PM ^

Well, considering that the SP+ ranking is currently factoring in pre-season predictions...

Defense: Definitely not the #12 defense right now based purely on on-field performance. I think they finish somewhere around the 35-40 mark on the year.

Offense: Almost definitely worse than #72 right now based purely on on-field performance. I think they finish somewhere around the 60-65 mark on the year.

Any way you slice it, the numbers are horribly ugly. Both sides of the ball need a real, pope-verified miracle right now.

Ezekiels Creatures

September 26th, 2019 at 2:19 PM ^

S&P is a formula. A nice formula that can give you a general idea. But it's not empirical truth. It can't take into account how a team looks when winning.

63-3 over Hawaii,

51-14 over UCF,

45-28 over Colorado,

49-10 over Penn St,

78-0 over Rutgers,

41-8 over Illinois,

32-23 over Michigan St (and the game looked no where near that close),

59-3 over Maryland,

and almost beating Ohio St in double overtime, which would have put Michigan in the BIG 10 Championship, and winning that into the Final 4, meet the test of the real world.

 

I would take Jedd Fisch now, immediately. And you'd see immediate improvement this weekend. I'd sure feel a lot better about the rest of the season too.

OwenGoBlue

September 26th, 2019 at 6:40 PM ^

Look, I liked Jedd, but he's an analyst who doesn't coach players on the field or call plays. Plenty of good coaches do that for a year while they find the next gig.

Not getting promoted by the Rams to an on-field job or landing an OC gig elsewhere for two years doesn't exactly scream rising star. That's especially true when teams are hiring anyone Sean McVay has shaken hands with. 

Maybe the Fisch fanatics around here are right and the powers that be in the NCAA and NFL are wrong but it's pretty clear he's not that highly thought of among football people with hiring power. 

Chicago Blue Fan

September 26th, 2019 at 10:53 PM ^

Remember last year when it looked like the O line was turning the corner? I would take the Fisch offense with last year's line in a second.

He was handicapped playing with a Clappy line coached by Dim Trevno. They couldn't block any team with a pulse.