Ben Herbert New S&C coach
December 30th, 2017 at 2:41 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 9:39 PM ^
Herbert > Tolbert > Wellman > Barwis > Gittleson
Maybe a new weight room too, just to be on the safe side?
December 30th, 2017 at 10:46 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^
Bert is the new dietitian
December 30th, 2017 at 12:46 PM ^
Wisconsin has been putting out Top rated O-Linemen for the past 20 years. Any part of that training that can carry over here is fine by me...
December 30th, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^
I think it's just a few assistant S&C coaches. Would love to take their LB coach but I don't want to lose Partridge.
December 30th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^
the video of herberts technique and philosophy is pretty interesting. In that video he talks about working on the lower half of players and building their strength from the ground up. thats something I think our offensive linemen have been lacking for years. it seems like they were relying on their upper body strnght to move guys and not their leg drive to move people off the ball. if that is something that can be changed here then there should be a good amount of development from the younger o-line and d-line players whch will be good for everyone
December 30th, 2017 at 12:59 PM ^
But sure, building from the ground up to push with their legs is the key.
December 30th, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^
Yep, anyone who thought the Michigan OL wasn't getting push didn't actually watch the line the second half of the year. Once they cleaned up the mental errors a bit the line would routinely get push and create lanes for the RBs. But with a lack of passing game, there was often a safety to tackle after gains of 4-6 yards. Not much more you can expect from the OL in run blocking. And as you said, the issue with pass blocking wasn't due to strength.
December 30th, 2017 at 6:31 PM ^
When your opponent knows you can't throw the ball they load the box to stop the run and make the line look worse than it really is. I'm not saying its Jake Long, Hutch and Everitt the Viking but it wasn't as bad as people think
December 30th, 2017 at 1:26 PM ^
Considering the changes in the S&C staff and Coach Harbaugh's statement about the team needing to "get stronger," I'm not surprised by this kind of speculation. Further, as none of us know what the coaches are seeing, it can't be said that strength/agility issues are not playing a role in technique issues.
S&C plays a role regardless of one's lack of understanding of how/how much it does. Yes, some put waaay too much stock into it but other's shouldn't swing to the other extreme in saying it plays a tangential role either.
December 30th, 2017 at 5:59 PM ^
sure being as they mentally had lapses at what seemed like a higher frequency then anticipated they still didnt drive teams off the ball. in their loses they average 2.6 with a long of 12, 2.4 with a long of 14, 1.6 with a long of 12, and 2.8 with a long of 24. its just the fact they didnt seem to blow the good teams off the line. maybe its something that is technique and not strength but i think that it wouldnt hurt to be stronger along the offensive front
December 30th, 2017 at 1:00 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 1:02 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 2:38 PM ^
I can see this from my section which is a good 50 yards from the play.
The guy behind me can actually see a) "effort"; b) "focus" and c) if guys have their "heads in the game". He can also tell if they need to "come on" and can communicate to the coach just by yelling "Come on, Harbaugh".
I need to up my game a bit.
December 30th, 2017 at 10:40 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 10:41 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 1:25 PM ^
December 31st, 2017 at 8:12 AM ^
big butts and he cannot lie.
December 30th, 2017 at 12:56 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 12:54 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 1:07 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 1:14 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 5:00 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 1:00 PM ^
Generally tepid?
December 30th, 2017 at 1:01 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 1:02 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 1:05 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 1:06 PM ^
You had me at Wisconsin.
December 30th, 2017 at 1:22 PM ^
This is a home run hire...he will move the needle
December 30th, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^
I'd say Turley woulda been a Home Run hire, but if this guy is a legged out Triple where the player isn't out of breath & still has his legs, that'd be a win!
December 30th, 2017 at 1:31 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 1:46 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 2:08 PM ^
December 31st, 2017 at 10:45 AM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 2:02 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^
Dont know what the hold up would be
December 30th, 2017 at 2:23 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 2:32 PM ^
S&C guys are part of the puzzle. But only part.
They are not going to get you into the playoffs over winter conditioning.
Barwis was not magic nor was Gittleson as bad as people thought he was when the Barwis hype started.
Herbert will be fine, but he's not going to do anything magic. Nor does he have to.
December 30th, 2017 at 2:47 PM ^
Herbert's received a number of accolades including being named a "Master Strength and Conditioning Coach" which supposedly is the profession's highest honor. The number of players he developed at Wisconsin and Arkansas who went on to the NFL is noteworthy.
However, this didn't prevent Arkansas from going 29-34 in Bert's four years there, which included a terrible 11-29 record in the SEC.
S&C won't by itself win championships.
December 30th, 2017 at 4:04 PM ^
your average ESPN talking head gang has to discuss the NHL or soccer. "Yeah this is good and ehhh *desperately scans stats sheet to find something familiar looking*"
December 30th, 2017 at 4:09 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 9:50 PM ^
you can find posts welcoming Wellman because Barwis didn't do enough to prevent injuries, some of which was because he wasn't seen but not heard like any good S&C coach. This of course, was only after we heard how bad Gittleson was from the same bunch.
December 30th, 2017 at 8:32 PM ^
December 30th, 2017 at 10:29 PM ^
December 31st, 2017 at 12:51 AM ^