B1G Tournament Open Thread, Thursday

Submitted by Blue Indy on March 11th, 2021 at 11:45 AM

State vs Maryland at 11:30

OSU vs Minnesota at 2 pm

IU vs Rutgers at 6:30 pm

Penn St vs Wisconsin 9 pm

Cam

March 11th, 2021 at 11:50 AM ^

Michigan State is such a sloppy, ugly, untalented team with an extremely outdated philosophy. I feel like I'm watching basketball from 1985.

Frank Chuck

March 11th, 2021 at 1:40 PM ^

Yep. I hate Sparty's garbage brand of basketball. I blame the Big Ten for allowing it.

Update: LOL at Sparty ducking Michigan in the Big Ten Tournament. (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.)

Sparty has 0 quality wins away from Breslin this year where Sparty gets a favorable whistle.

And it's funny that Rocket Watts turned back into a pumpkin.

MGoMike19

March 11th, 2021 at 11:59 AM ^

I am not particularly looking forward to another slugfest game against MSU. They seem to thrive in those, and their ability to throw junk up there and make it scares me. Now they are confident, too. 

We just gotta hit our dang shots and shake off this funk it feels like we're in. If M can get going early I'd feel pretty good about things. Maybe going into the game knowing Eli's status will be less of a shock to the system than losing him 5 minutes in.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

March 11th, 2021 at 12:55 PM ^

My rule is I root for both OSU and MSU against both Rutgers and Maryland because Rutgers and Maryland are fake B1G teams.  But I'll root for Rutgers and Maryland if it helps Michigan.  (A clause I apply generously.)  And breaking MSU's tourney streak would take away a recruiting point from MSU, which would help Michigan.

Maryland makes me barf, but I hope they win today.

MNWolverine2

March 11th, 2021 at 12:04 PM ^

MSU has really found their mojo heading into March (unfortunately).  They look really similar to the Michigan team that in 2017 that figured things out at the end of the season and made a run to the BTT title (as an 8 seed) and Sweet 16 (as a 7 seed).  Almost the exact same seeds that MSU is/projects to.

I just saw Gabe Brown pump fake, take a hesitation dribble, and dunk.  The game has slowed down for Brown, Watts, and Bingham.  Look out for this team in the tourney.

bronxblue

March 11th, 2021 at 12:08 PM ^

I actually see a team that is still sloppy and mediocre on defense; them having guys in foul trouble points to a team that is really physical and relies on the refs not calling it.  

This isn't a particularly talented team, and I'm not particularly optimistic about their long-term chances to keep it going.  That 2017 team was a top-30 KenPom team at the end of the year; MSU is barely in the top 60.  

snarling wolverine

March 11th, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^

MSU has really found their mojo heading into March (unfortunately).  They look really similar to the Michigan team that in 2017  

Whoa there.  Sparty's last four games:

-Lost at Maryland by 18

-Won at home vs Indiana by 6

-Lost at Michigan by 19

-Won at home vs Michigan by 6

And as I type this, they've just blown a double-digit lead today and are down at halftime.

jmblue

March 11th, 2021 at 12:55 PM ^

How the 2017 team finished the regular season:

2/7 W vs. MSU, 84-55

2/12 W at IU, 75-63

2/16 W vs. Wisconsin, 64-58

2/19 L at Minnesota, 83-78 (OT)

2/22 W at Rutgers, 68-64

2/25 W vs Purdue, 82-70

3/1 L at Northwestern, 67-65

3/5 W at Nebraska, 93-57

Even before the BTT this was one of the hottest teams in the country.  They very nearly ran the table over that last month, with their two losses coming in OT and on a buzzer-beater.  

Jordan2323

March 11th, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^

I’ve sat and watched 3 straight fouls by MSU players and they all have looked over at Izzo and held their hands up in disbelief. They can’t play without hacking and can’t seem to get used to it being called away from EL. 

bronxblue

March 11th, 2021 at 12:24 PM ^

Yep.  If they shoot 70% on 2-pointers (like they were early on in this game) they can hang with you.  But they are below-average on defense, even with first-team defender Aaron Henry (which...yeah, that's definitely one of the top 4 defenders in this conference), and they don't have much diversity on offense.  So if they aren't hitting their shots they can't get to the rim or generate organic long-distance shots.  And as we've seen, if you call fouls on them they are screwed.

MGoBlue96

March 11th, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^

I swear the hyperbole in this thread and others is unreal. MSU goes 2-2 in their last 4 including getting blown out twice and now they are primed to go deep in the tourney, and Michigan is apparently helpless without Eli based on a two game sample size. 

1145SoFo

March 11th, 2021 at 12:44 PM ^

How are bad talking points about refereeing still spit out by fans and analysts and Tom Izzos alike? People always try to use the FTA differential as proof of bias, because of course FTAs should be equal opportunity events when State fouls the most in the conference.

That being said, I think it was obvious the game is being called tight and State probably got worse end of 1 or 2 fouls on Ayala. But talk about those, not the -12 FTA gap which was largely justified.