Apparently 5 Alabama Players Tested Positive for SARS-CoV-2
There's the link to the tweet.
Tested Tuesday, practiced together Wednesday, results Thursday.
How's this going to work now with coaches and mandated isolation?
Football is going to be a slow mo train wreck this year.
I get it. If X county had 6 cases and 3 people test positive the headline reads:
Cases increase by 50%!!
But Jesus, there's an easy to use state and national graph that a second grader can read lol
Because they are going up? Idk. I just read CNBC. I guess they lie to according to you?
It's true that overall cases are going down in the US, but a big reason for that is the significant decrease in cases from the states that were hit hard early, particularly NY and NJ.
False.
U.S. coronavirus cases have been slowly ticking up since Memorial Day
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/04/us-coronavirus-cases-have-been-slowly-ticking-up-since-memorial-day.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard
2 things:
1. the 'uptick' is trivial and in-line with the overall downward trend for a month+
2. more cases isn't a problem especially given the much greater testing. the problem that needs monitoring is overwhelming the hospitals. that hasn't happened in, what, months?
fear porn is a thing, and you may have an addiction to it.
all your points are incorrect.
Where is your evidence to to prove those charts wrong?
he was disagreeing with the constant doom-sayer. pretty sure he agrees with you.
Ok. Sorry. Sometimes I have no clue as to what people are responding to or not on this. ?
You're responding to the wrong person.
What's wrong with my mashed potatoes?
So are yours my friend. So are yours.
Goddamn man, where do you come up with this shit? Just reddit comments or something?
Not one thing you said was accurate.
COVID has really shown how many people on both sides of the spectrum will believe, regurgitate, and spread just straight up factually wrong nonsense because ... I don't know why really.
“U.S. coronavirus hospitalizations have crept higher due to states' efforts to reopen and return to some semblance of normalcy, former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC. “
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/26/coronavirus-as-states-reopen-us-hospitalizations-rise.html
What's the big deal?
Just build up a surplus of walk-ons from the general student body. Plug and play might be a fun way to get some new blood into the CFP!
Cool. Bama football will have herd immunity by July 1. -- Swedish Minister of Public Health
Sweden has a population of 10 million, same as Michigan. Michigan had one of the strictest lockdown policies there were. Michigan deaths are 5600, cases 56,000. Sweden didn't lockdown--they did take measures such as no mass gatherings and no sitting at the bar, but tables open, etc. Sweden deaths are 4500 and cases 45,000. Who's been more successful?
No.....facts.....NOOOOO!!!!
Sure, those are facts and for someone with a superficial understanding (like, the level of a third grader), they might deduce from those numbers alone Sweden has been “more successful”. But if you’re going to ascribe their lower death rate entirely to their more laid back approach to COVID, you should probably factor in population density, baseline health status, the fact that Swedes are generally more healthy than Americans with longer life expectancies, they have universal healthcare, etc...
Or, you know, continue to pretend that people are scared of facts. That’s also an option.
Yes since the facts disagree with your *nuanced* position they must not be relevant. Look over at these other facts!
Ok to address your points: you actually think universal healthcare is a factor? Come on. You actually think Michigan outside of Detroit is more dense than Sweden? No again. Longer life expectancies? That fact should make Sweden more likely to have more deaths, for a virus that mainly impacts older people regardless of health state.
Lastly, I responded to the original point in that way because he suggested Sweden had a terrible approach. That is simply wrong, and nothing substantiates that-especially when the entire Swedish approach was not to avoid every death--stated out loud pre-pandemic, but to avoid overloading hospitals and to build immunity. With that understanding it's a huge success. Same for Japan, who is-deliberately-not testing people and not closing, and also very low deaths
How do you know my position? I'm simply pointing out your overly simplistic approach in the response I replied to, which was, "Michigan has more deaths therefore Sweden was more successful". Oh, and also the response that replied people would be freaking out because facts.
If you care to know my position, I think a healthier population is in a better position for better outcomes. By every measure, including access to healthcare and preventative care, Sweden is better than the United States. Outside of the largest, most densely populated, unhealthiest and most at risk city in the state Michigan is less dense? Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln? But on a serious note, Michigan (especially the LP) looks to be quite a bit more dense than Sweden. Even if you cherry pick the data and exclude the population of Detroit, the lower peninsula has around 200 people per square mile and Sweden has around 60.
Speaking of Japan, have you been lately? I was in Tokyo for a conf last year and you'd be astounded at the number of people routinely wearing facemasks even without a pandemic. I would hazard a guess that applying their experience to the United States, or Michigan, would be of limited utility. In sum, it isn't that your facts aren't relevant, it is that they aren't relevant in a vacuum and it wasn't clear you were properly contextualizing them. What you did was the equivalent of saying 1957 George Yardley could beat modern Lebron James because he had a higher scoring average that year. A single statistic doesn't tell you the whole picture.
Norway.
"Deaths in Sweden, though, have been eight times higher than in Denmark and 19 times higher than in Norway, even though Sweden is only double each neighbors’ size. The outbreak appears to be continuing to course through Swedish society, even while most other European countries seem to have gotten things under control, at least for now." Sweden's state epidemiologist says oops. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/sweden-epidemiologist-anders-tegnell/2020/06/03/063b20e4-a5a0-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html
“For months, the world has watched Sweden's light-touch approach to fighting the coronavirus pandemic, wondering whether it was genius or misguided. This week, the architect of the strategy acknowledged that too many people have died and said that, in retrospect, he might have pushed something closer to other countries' restrictions.“
Comparing Sweden to Michigan really isn't appropriate - aside from a similar total population size, the two are nothing alike (demographics, population distribution, culture, diet, climate, geography, etc.) A fair comparison would be between Sweden and countries most similar to it: Norway, Denmark and Finland.
This is correct. Sweden and Michigan have completely different population densities, demographics, etc. I'd also have to imagine that we also have a lot more people traveling to and from China...which is/was a factor in how/where the virus started spreading.
Michigan has twice the population density of Sweden and their first CV death was much later.
Apples and oranges.
The trends for Michigan and Sweden are different. The number of daily cases and deaths reported in Michigan is on a significant downward trend. Sweden is a different story. The number of deaths reported each day in Seeden is flat. June 3rd and June 4th are the two highest days for new cases. Before June 3rd then highest number of new cases reported for a day in Sweden was about 800. On June 3rd they reported a little over a 1000 new cases and today they reported over 2000 new cases. Hopefully for Sweden these last two days are just blips on the radar instead of an upward trend.
The average life expectancy in Sweden is 83.3. In Michigan it is 78.2. There might be other factors at play.
Sweden has almost zero in common with Michigan. Completely different demographics, health systems, etc.
Maybe the team will build up herd immunity amongst themselves this summer during workouts. Might even be the plan for some of these ADs and coaches. Get it out of the way now and let em play ball this fall.
I'm sorry but any AD or university faculty member who "plans" to have the students infected with a virus shouldn't have a job. And in no way should this be a controversial statement.
You seem to not like old people. Don’t like your parents? Hate your grandparents? Maybe you’ll get lucky and die young. Go Blue ‘59
Excellent argument. Outstanding online stance. You'll go far.
My Dad is 82, has leukemia and therefore twice at risk for a virus where most of the deaths are over 65. He wants everything fully opened for good and hates what the lockdown did to the working class and small business. I am so proud of how mature that stance is, and how he cares for others more than for himself. I share my Dad's view. And if my Dad dies that will be sad. /the end.
There is NO scenario where people do not die or suffer. Choosing the side of caution is not more virtuous. The law of unintended consequences is dancing before our eyes. Shutting down costs lives too. Shutting down is absolutely unprecedented, an experiment. We act like finances are the only impact. The loss of money and jobs has a cascading impact on all of society.
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Maybe coronavirus prevents CTE. Only one way to find out
Uh, the real question is how will this affect their bagmen? If you’re a Bama Bagman, some 70yo dude who wears houndstooth hats and owns a moderately successful car dealership, are you gonna risk your life dropping off your weekly payments just to keep Bama in the running for another natty? Actually, you probably will. Never-mind, carry on...
you'll do it with greater impunity because you have a mask on, just like a bank robber!
Wow, time for Extra to go to bed...
Hey guys did you hear!? College athletes have a lower risk of dying from covid 19 than the average person! Now that that’s out of the way there’s absolutely no problems whatsoever and nothing could possibly go wrong. Let’s give it to all of them and play football.
Do you idiots that keep quoting the fatality rates for people under 25 think you’ve got breaking news that no one else knows? Or do you think that as long as the percentage is low for one group of people involved in the CFB machine that’s literally all that matters? Low risk is not zero risk. If even a single athlete dies it’s gone be a mess. Remember Jordan McNair?
Everyone wants college football back. But quit whistling past the graveyard and acting like there aren’t some real issues that need to be figured out in order to play.
These players have a greater chance of dying on the bus on the way to the game. There's no such thing as no risk.
Stay at home forever if you want a life with no risk, bud.
Please never leave your house. That's the only way you can avoid "whistling past the graveyard." Such ignorance
Very predictable rebuttals guys. I've been out and about I'm not afraid of some risk. That's not the point. As I said it takes more than 20 year old kids to have a college football season.
These threads are super predictable, half the people say the same shit over and over. As if the only thing that matters is that college kids are low risk. Its more complex than that. And you haven't addressed or acknowledged that.
I mean they tested them then didn't wait for the results to let them practice. Seems like a pretty small ask to have some common sense protocols and contingencies in place.
South reaps what they sow...if they want to get whopped again then bring it, but they will in November ?? ?
I wonder if there are players out there saying, " Fuck it, let's get it now and get it over with so we dont have to deal with it during the season." Especially those with a year of eligibility left and a decent, but not assured shot at the NFL.
If there is no college football this year you are taking away a year of development from all of those student athletes. You are actively trying to prevent people from advancing themselves and improve their chances of getting drafted into the NFL. Why would you do that to a group of people that the virus doesn't affect. Let them play.
COVID-2? The 18 year-old COVID from Hong Kong with a %10 mortality rate? So we have two COVIDs going now?
SARS is caused by the coronavirus SARS-CoV. COVID-19 is caused by the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2. They are related but different.
Please try to keep up.