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Upon Further Review 2020: Defense vs Wisconsin Comment Count

Brian November 19th, 2020 at 2:53 PM

FORMATION NOTES: Le beef.

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Michigan almost entirely ditched the 3-3-5 and ran Barrett out as an OLB on most snaps. A two deep shell, seen here, was still Michigan's primary mode of operation until later when they started going one high so they could have another guy in the box, for all the good it did.

SUBSTITUTION NOTES: With Paye out, Kemp moved out to end. Jeter and Hinton were the starting DTs; Welschof and Speight backed them up. Upshaw and Vilain rotated at the other end spot.

Back seven was the usual. Paige got nickel work. DJ Turner got in briefly when Green got shaken up, and delivered the usual blindingly obvious PI as per the ritual.

[After THE JUMP: meh]

Ln Dn Ds O Form D Pack Front Cover look Type Rush Play Player Yards
O34 1 10 I-Form 4-2-5 4-3 over Press two high Run N/A Lead zone Ross 9
This will be a theme: M doesn’t set an edge. Ross(-2) runs up into the fullback and gets stalled out, edge. Upshaw(-1) turned inside and gone so this wasn’t going to be great either way but McGrone has a better shot at tracking this down it if it doesn’t bounce. Also hampering McGrone: Jeter(-1) fired back a long way by a double and he’s unable to make a quick decision because there are multiple failure areas.
O43 2 1 I-Form 4-2-5 4-3 even Press two high Run N/A Iso Gray 0 (Pen -5)
A gap iso with both DTs getting doubled. RB has it if he just slams it ahead with Hinton(-1) offering little resistance but he tries to bounce, and then he has it but tries to bounce around Gray(+1); Gray is able to hit him short of the sticks. Two men in motion brings it back.
O38 2 6 Gun trips tight bunch 4-2-5 4-3 over Off two high Pass 4 Flat Hawkins 5
Simple pass in the flat that Hawkins(+0.5) comes up and tackles on. RPS -1.
O43 3 1 Ace tight 4-2-5 4-3 over Off two high Run N/A QB sneak N/A 5
I’m not going to RPS this but M widens out Hinton presnap so there’s no one in the A gap.
O48 1 10 I-Form twins 4-2-5 4-3 over SAM Press two high Pass 5 PA scramble Ross 2 (Pen offset)
Vilain(+1) is able to come through as the RG seems to set wrong and a tackle has to pick him up late; this gives Ross(-1, pressure +2) a free run around the edge; he misses the tackle(-2) on a blindside sack and the QB is able to go get a couple. Offsetting penalties: one hold on Vilain and then a terrible defensive holding call on which Green is hurled to the ground by the WR and ends up stumbling/panic-tackling the WR, justifiably. Refs -2.
O48 1 10 Pistol offset 4-2-5 4-3 even? Off two high Run N/A Lead zone McGrone 3
McGrone(+1) blasts into the LOS and runs through an OL trying to come off Smith, cutting off frontside gaps. Kemp(+0.5) holds up well; Smith(+0.5) is able to come through that double after McGrone deletes half of it. Back cuts all the way to the bounce, where Barrett(-1) loses him outside, making an ineffective diving tackle attempt. Hawkins is able to clean up.
M49 2 7 Gun 3-wide 4-2-5 4-3 over SAM Half press one high Pass 4 Slant Gray Inc
Open enough to convert here; mostly a drop. Gray gets a little yank in and is in okay position. Push? He may influence this incompletion a bit.
M49 3 7 Gun 3-wide 3-2-6 Okie Half press two Pass 4 Flare screen Barrett Inc
M extremely lucky here as UW catches man coverage; TE flanked out a couple yards from the T seal and pancakes McGrone(-2); Barrett(-2) does not read this block and runs way out of the play, failing to crack replace. This is going to be a huge play, and QB airmails it. (RPS -2)
Drive Notes: Punt, 0-0, 11 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Pack Front Cover look Type Rush Play Player Yards
M33 1 10 Ace trips tight bunch 4-2-5 4-3 even SAM Press one high 5 N/A Corner Green Inc
Deep shot after TO is fairly predictable and M kind of in trouble here as Green(-1, cover -1) gets off track as WR takes one step to a post and then breaks back outside of him. Ball is off; Mertz got a little pressure as Upshaw(+0.5) is able to put an OL back into Mertz’s feet.
M33 2 10 Ace 3-wide 4-2-5 4-3 over SAM Press two high Run N/A Reverse Upshaw 30
Upshaw(-1) could probably do better here once he realizes the back doesn’t have the ball; he goes vertical instead of trying to contain the reverse. I’m not sure that would have helped much because M’s defense is wiped. Ross(-1) runs hard to the other edge, almost passing McGrone. Gray(-2) goes upfield of his block and gets pushed to the ground. Green eventually pushes it OOB. RPS -2.
M3 1 G Goalline 2FB Goal line Goal line Press zero Run N/A FB dive Speight 1
Speight(+0.5) and Hinton(+0.5) dig in and give little ground.
M2 2 G Goalline 2FB Goal line Goal line Press zero Run N/A Iso Green 2
Maaan, I’m not gonna minus this. Green gets sucked into a LB spot and bravely charges at the fullback, making contact in the backfield. He gets obliterated. Hinton(-0.5) gives a little too much ground to prevent the TD.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 0-7, 9 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Pack Front Cover look Type Rush Play Player Yards
M14 1 10 I-Form Big 4-2-5 4-3 even Off one high Pass 4 Waggle deep out Gray Inc
PA, two man route. Hawkins(+0.5, cover +1) on the flat. Gray(+1, cover +1) covers the WR’s comeback route. Mertz throws a very bad idea pass too far inside that gets PBUd. Just +1 because this was a real bad throw that led to a PBU.
M14 2 10 Offset I 4-2-5 4-3 over Press one high Run N/A Split zone Hill 3
Hey LBs get to the gap. M stunts; Hinton(+0.5) mostly holds against a double. Kemp(-0.5) loses a half yard more against a single block; Ross(-0.5) runs up and hits the TE and gets turned inside. Hill(+1) is in man on the TE coming across the formation and pops up to thunk the back when his TE kicks Barrett out.
M11 3 7 Gun 3-wide 4-1-6 Nickel even Press one high Pass 4 Mesh Green 10
We can lose vs mesh in man or lose in zone. M sets most of a trap nicely here with Hill following a WR across the formation to indicate man coverage and then they flips to a zone. Green(-2, cover -2) passes off one mesh guy… and then gets a bunch of depth. Other mesh guy open, pitch and catch, first down. Pressure(-1) not coming.
M1 1 G Goal line Goal line Goal line Press zero Pass N/A Waggle FB flat N/A 1
They get it.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 0-14, 6 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Pack Front Cover look Type Rush Play Player Yards
O40 1 10 Ace 4-2-5 4-3 even Half press one high Run N/A Jet sweep Kemp 18
Kemp(-1) goes so vertical no one actually has to block him. Hill(-1) gets cracked; Green(-1) does not replace effectively. Ross(-1) knocked over. Hawkins(-1) eats a block and gives about eight yards. RPS –1.
M42 1 10 Gun 2RB 4-2-5 4-3 over Half press one high Pass 4 Stop and go Gray Inc
Pressure not great but Jeter(+0.5) gets a fair amount of push and if Mertz isn’t throwing this he’s probably got to start moving. Attempt to get Gray(+1, cover +1) to bite on a double move doesn’t work; he’s in phase and pushes the WR over legally; ball is off.
M42 2 10 Pistol 3-wide tight 4-2-5 4-3 even SAM Off two high Pass 4 PA waggle TE Flat Ross 14
PA, Ross(-2, cover -2) ignores the TE flowing across and rushes the QB right next to Vilain, cheap conversion.
M28 1 10 Ace tight 4-2-5 4-3 even Off two high Run N/A Iso Newburg 3
OT passes up Newburg(+1), who dives inside the TE and drives across the formation. RB bangs into the TE’s back. Smith(-2) gets ejected by a double; McGrone(+2) is able to shed a TE/FB inserting as the iso lead block and get to the ballcarrier.
M25 2 7 Gun trips tight bunch 4-2-5 4-3 over Half press one high Pass 4 Flat Green 8
Again this looks like man for Green as the rest of the defense runs zone. Green(-2, cover -2) has a guy running a slant and runs him until he’s next to Hill/Ross, flat wide open.
M17 1 10 I-From Big 4-2-5 4-3 even Off two high Pass 4 Drag Gray 7
PA, four man rush, M brackets the two deep balls (cover +2) and should have the dink drag route that is the last option. Gray(-1, cover -1) takes a bad angle and blows a tackle to turn three yards into seven. Pressure(-1) not coming and no edge allows Mertz to roll out but this is 7 v 4 and the coverage should make this work.
M10 2 3 Pistol 3-wide 4-2-5 Nickel even Press one high Run N/A Split zone Ross 0
Speight(+0.5) able to swim past a double a little and sort of insinuate himself on the LOS. Ross(+1) shoots up to bang the other guy on that double back into the backfield. Upshaw(+1) stacks and sheds the RT to make it count.
M10 3 3 Ace tight 4-2-5 4-3 even SAM Press one high Run N/A Jet sweep N/A 9
Green(-1) gets blocked out of the play by his WR. Hill scrapes over this to find a fullback unimpeded at about the sticks and has to climb over this to tackle. Vilain(-1) quickly flanked. LBs gone for RB fake the other way. RPS -1.
M1 1 G Goal line 4-2-5 Goal line Press zero Run N/A FB dive N/A 1
They get it.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 0-21, 14 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Pack Front Cover look Type Rush Play Player Yards
O26 1 10 Ace trips tight bunch 3-3-5 3-3 stack Half press two high Pass N/A Waggle cross McGrone Inc
McGrone(-2, cover -2) bites super heavy on this and is nowhere near a wide open receiver; Mertz misses.
O26 2 10 Gun 3-wide 4-2-5 4-3 under Half press one high Run N/A Split zone N/A 18
Just look at this nonsense. Giant gap between NT shaded to right of C and a nine technique DE. Wisconsin runs at it. M blitzes Barrett off the backside and McGrone gets stuck in man on the TE so he leaves the area. Hinton(-1) slanting but just in a terrible spot and gets reached; Ross gets double teamed. LINEBACKER DOUBLE TEAMED ON SECOND LEVEL. RPS -3.
O44 1 10 I-Form 4-2-5 4-3 even Press two high Run N/A Iso Upshaw 7
Ross(+0.5) does a solid job to run up and set the edge at the LOS; relatively narrow gap that Upshaw(-1) is not in at all as he just fights with the OL the whole play; McGrone(-0.5) is a little late getting over and only initiates a tackle four yards downfield.
M49 2 3 I-Form 4-2-5 4-3 over Press one high Pass 4 PA Y cross Green 19
PA, two man route. All day (pressure -2). Green(-1, cover -1) beat by a yard or two and can only tackle on the catch. This is the LBs holding hands play.
M30 1 10 Gun 3-wide 4-2-5 Nickel over Off one high Run N/A Split zone Ross 5
Ross(+0.5) blitzes to set the edge; Vilain(+0.5) dips inside to clear some space. Small space between them; both guys come off to tackle. Back is able to grind out an impressive amount of YAC and also there is no support from the LBs. McGrone hit an OL free releasing to him as the DTs twist; Barrett again taken out of play by man coverage on TE running split flow action.
M25 2 5 Pistol 3-wide 3-3-5 3-3 stack Off two high Pass 4 Fade Turner Inc (Pen +15)
Turner’s in with Green sidelined. Turner… (-2, cover -2) flat out tackles a guy running a fade.
M10 1 10 Pistol 3-wide tight 4-1-6 Nickel even Press two high Run N/A Power O Welschof 10
Well, one, they have a nickel package in on first and ten. Two, Welschof(-3) gets obliterated. Three, the jet fake takes Hawkins out of the equation and has Turner running backwards at the snap(RPS -1). McGrone(-1) put in the endzone by a guy coming off Welschof.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 0-28, 10 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Pack Front Cover look Type Rush Play Player Yards
O1 1 10 Ace TTE 4-2-5 4-3 over Off one high Run N/A QB sneak Jeter 3
Jeter(-1) and Hinton(-0.5) get dumped yards downfield.
O4 2 7 I-Form 4-2-5 4-3 over Press two high Run N/A FB dive Upshaw 6
Upshaw(-1) gets put three yards downfield by a single block. Hinton(-0.5) gives ground and can’t come off his guy to make meaningful contact; Hill blitzes and makes contact from the side.
O10 3 1 I-Form Big 4-2-5 4-3 even SAM Press two high Run N/A Iso N/A 4
DT twist just runs Hinton out of the area. Ross and McGrone try to fill as fast as possible but Ross has an OL and McGrone is coming from far away. They’re not going to shut this down even if they play it perfectly.
O14 1 10 Ace tight 4-2-5 4-3 even SAM Half press one high Pass N/A Waggle cross Green 20
Jet fake, M likely busts as Gray rotates back to S and points, which no one reacts to. Lucky it’s a fake; Green(-1, cover -1) again beaten on this crossing route but he needs some help from outside leverage and no one is offering it. Gray(-1, cover -1) the likely culprit.
O34 1 10 Pistol 3-wide 4-2-5 Nickel even Press two high Run N/A Counter GT Vilain 5
Vilain(-1) moves down to spill and can’t hold up. McGrone(+0.5) swims past one block and absorbs a second; Ross(+0.5) is able to come through a mess to tackle.
O39 2 5 Gun 3-wide 3-3-5 3-3 stack Half press two Pass 4 Slant Green Inc
Green(+1, cover +1) able to react on this and get his hand on the ball for a PBU. This rake out takes a long time because the WR almost catches it but it does come out late, causing a fumble call on the field and a correct replay overturn. Most PBUs are +2 but this one is one where the WR has a legit chance to bring it in so just +1.
O39 3 5 Gun trips 4-1-6 Dime over Press two high Run N/A Inside zone Vilain 0
Vilain(+1) the beneficiary of a UW bust, probably? RT gets off balance and lunges past him and keeps going as the G doubles a DT. Upshaw(+0.5) given a free run from the back as McGrone comes up to blitz and he’s close; RPS +1.
Drive Notes: Punt, 28-0, 1 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Pack Front Cover look Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Ace 4-2-5 4-3 even Off two high Run N/A Inside zone Gray 7
Jet fake. Kemp(+1) sheds a TE and burst to the backfield to force this really wide into the boundary—and there was a jet fake right there!--and there is still zero edge. Gray(-2) is bailing the whole play, long after the RB has the ball and meekly accepts a block from the jet fake WR. Ross(-1) and McGrone(-1) both get sealed inside by blocks; Hill runs up to thump the back as the backside S but doesn’t wrap up.
O32 2 3 Ace twin TE 4-2-5 4-3 even Half press one high Run N/A Inside zone McGrone -1
McGrone(+2) reads this and fires hard, zipping past an OL who’s trying to chip Kemp before moving on; he shoots the gap and sticks the guy for a solo TFL.
O31 3 4 Gun 3-wide 4-1-6 Dime under Press two high Pass 5 TE out Barrett 6
Barrett(-1, cover -1) in decent position but can’t get a swipe in even though this ball is behind the TE.
O37 1 10 I-Form Big 4-2-5 4-3 even Off two high Run N/A Lead zone Ross 18
Hill(-1) overruns on the outside and never takes on a kickout block; Ross(-2) tries to go upfield of a block and gets wiped; McGrone shot a gap to the interior and can likely tackle if RB is slowed or has to cut back a little. Instead, chunk.
M45 1 10 Ace trips tight bunch 4-2-5 4-3 even SAM Half press one high Pass 4 PA deep cross Gray Inc
Another two man route M can’t cover. Vilain(+1) actually rips past his guy but gets picked up by a RB. Hill(-2, cover -2) trying to bracket a post and helpless when the WR cuts this to a deep crossing route. WR drops it.
M45 2 10 Offset I 4-2-5 4-3 even Press two high Run N/A End around Hill 7
Power look from UW with WR coming around outside of it. M in trouble as they play to spill power so Kemp dives inside and UW can just pass him up. They also pass up Ross(+0.5); Ross is able to chase this pretty wide; Hill(+1) takes on an OL block and is able to get under it and fight to the back to tackle. RPS -1.
M38 3 3 Gun 3-wide 4-2-5 4-3 even SAM Press one high Pass N/A Tunnel screen Hinton Inc
With three guys chasing a flare screen this is a TD if Hinton(+2) doesn’t read the tunnel screen the other way and PBU.
Drive Notes: Punt, 28-3, 9 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Pack Front Cover look Type Rush Play Player Yards
M44 1 10 I-Form 4-2-5 4-3 even Press two high Pass 4 Sack Kemp -3
PA and another two man route. M has three guys back and must cover(+1) both guys reasonably well as Mertz hesitates. Kemp(+2, pressure +2) is able to beat a TE around the corner and sack.
M47 2 13 Pistol trips tight bunch 4-2-5 4-3 under Press one high Run N/A Jet sweep Gray 6 + 15 pen
Gray(-1) sits back and accepts a block to open up the corner. He gets shoved back so Barrett has no ability to flow and doesn’t force anything back to help. Hawkins(-2) gets a late hit call.
M26 1 10 Gun 3-wide 4-2-5 4-3 over Half press one high Run N/A Reverse Upshaw 12
Upshaw(-1) never finds this; Gray does crack replace but late; understandable since this is a reverse. Hill(-1) comes up too vertical and gets knocked inside by a blocker. RPS -2.
M14 1 10 Ace tight 4-2-5 4-3 even SAM Press one high Run N/A Power GT Upshaw 1
Upshaw(+2) swims past the TE, putting him on the ground. He’s able to come around fast enough to tackle the back; Barrett(+0.5) times up a blitz and gets there from the back as well. RPS +1.
M13 2 9 Gun trips 4-2-5 4-3 over SAM Press one high Pass 5 TE seam McGrone 13
Barrett blitzes; McGrone(-1, cover -1) moves over to the TE. TE stumbles. McGrone takes a false step; TE runs a seam route that Mertz hits perfectly; no play on the ball for McGrone despite TE stumble because he took that step.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 3-35, 4 min 3rd Q. This is enough, I think.

Hey, you stopped early.

Not doing a 14-play TD drive with a running into the kicker penalty in the middle is self-care. Also we didn't learn anything in the fourth quarter that we hadn't learned in the first three. This is a bad football team with bad players who are badly organized. They cannot run man coverage, they cannot run zone coverage, their linebackers don't know where to be, the defensive tackles are lucky to stay vaguely near the line of scrimmage, and the defensive ends are injured.

Does that cover it?

uh… yeah I guess

What's the point of writing a bunch of stuff when I can just post this clip?

I mean, I'm going to write some more stuff but it's going to be a repeat of the things I said the last two weeks except there aren't any sections about Aidan Hutchinson and Kwity Paye trying to bail water out of a sinking boat. Here are your drives:

  • Touchdown drives of 75, 74, 72, 60, 44, 33, and 14 yards
  • Punts after picking up 37, 37, and 18 yards.
  • A four-minute drill that got 33 yards deep before the game ended.

There was a three-and-out in there that got wiped off the board by the running into the kicker penalty. It does not change the overall picture, which is Greg Robinson. Wisconsin rushed for 6.7 yards a carry and passed for 10.6 yards an attempt.

It should be noted that the only drive that could be considered successful (the 18 yarder) was likely to be a scoring drive if Mertz doesn't airmail a screen that is screamingly wide open:

Yikes.

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Also one of the other punts came after Hinton dropped out an PBUed a screen that otherwise was probably a touchdown.

The chart is a comprehensive disaster once you account for the fact that a DL at zero is like a LB at –4.

Defensive Line

Player + - T Notes
Paye       DNP
Hutchinson       DNP
Kemp 3.5 1.5 2 Got a sack.
Jeter 0.5 2 -1.5 Better than last year.
Hinton 3 3.5 -0.5 +2 for screen PBU, was rough on ground.
Welschof   3 -3 Main culprit on embarrassing TD.
Upshaw 4 4 0  
Speight 1   1  
Newburg 1   1 Drew a hold.
Vilain 3.5 2 1.5 Like Upshaw, flashed but also had several errors.
TOTAL 16.5 16 +0.5 Removing two NFL first round DEs: bad.
Linebacker
Player + - T Notes
Barrett 0.5 4 -3.5 Vipers in tough against UW
McGrone 5.5 7.5 -2 Job hard because of everything around him.
Ross 3 10.5 -7.5 Doesn't know what he's doing.
Solomon       DNP
BVS       DNC
Mullings       DNP
Mohan       DNP
TOTAL 9 22 -13 GERG time
Secondary
Player + - T Notes
Hill 2 5 -3 Rough fills on jet sweeps.
Hawkins 1 3 -2 -2 for late hit
Gray 3 7 -4 Beat up on edge runs over and over.
Green 1 9 -8 Vacated zones, out of contact in man.
Paige       DNC
Faustin       DNP
Turner   2 -2 Yeesh
TOTAL 7 26 -19 GERG time
Metrics
Pressure 4 4 +0 Most passes were quick or eight man protections
Coverage 6 19 -13 Yeet me into the sea
Tackling   2 -2 Ross missed sack.
RPS 2 14 -12 jet jet jet jet jet jet reverse

What was good? Literally nothing. What was bad? Literally everything.

There are many reasons things are this bad. One is that players keep making mistakes. Gemon Green is in zone here. He passes off a guy running a crossing route. I cannot fathom a team that has been taken apart by mesh not running a zone that handles mesh on third and seven, but Green backs off to the goal line and the conversion here is even easier than Michigan's usual man coverage:

CB #22 to top

Michigan's zone issues are all mental. This one gives up a wide open throw directly in front of the QBs face.

This is apparently Green running man coverage when he should be playing cover two:

CB #22 to top

I mean.

Also in this vein: linebacker play. Mostly Ross's. Ross is an excellent example of a team-wide regression in knowing what the hell to do. Multiple times in this game he ended up giving up the edge, starting on the first snap when he takes on the fullback and lets the ball bounce outside of him:

LB #12 to top

McGrone is flowing behind that and makes the tackle but nine yards downfield; if Ross sets an edge he saves Michigan a chunk of yardage. This ended up much worse when McGrone blitzed later in the game and Ross tried to go upfield of a block that he very much did not go upfield of:

LB #12 to bottom

This is linebacker 101—see, repeating myself—and it's really dispiriting/alarming that one of the more veteran guys on the roster is doing this more often than not.  Here he is running next to Vilain instead of covering the TE in the flat:

LB #12 to bottom

Michigan is not averaging a bust per play but you'd be forgiven for thinking that they were.

It was actually the one play a linebacker did make in this game that drove the point home. McGrone gets a TFL here by playing downhill and shooting a gap before the OL can get off his double team:

MLB #44

I am watching opposing linebackers do this on a weekly basis against Michigan. This was one of only a few instances in this game. Ross had one too:

LB #12 to bottom

Meanwhile they're not getting anything out of their caution. Wisconsin spent much of their play action time running two-man routes with LBs neither rushing the passer no covering anyone. It's time to play blitzball.

Are there other reasons everything is doomed?

Well, the coaching, and not just because they can't get anyone to play cornerback without this being the result:

Also Don Brown's legendary trickiness has petered out into a whole lot of nothing, with nonsense plays speckled in. One chunk run in the second half was particularly infuriating.

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There is one DL to the right of the center. Big hole! Better do something about it. Nope!

Split zone sees McGrone follow the TE away from the hole, and a Barrett blitz does nothing, so Josh Ross gets double teamed downfield. Never seen that before. I swear that if I have no cause to use this one week I won't use it. This is not that week.

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Also in what are we doing: jet sweeps. Michigan never adjusted to Wisconsin jet sweeps, which were universally successful and never challenged.

Wisconsin kept running these.

The aforementioned 14-play drive I stopped before features two that are more or less identical to the above: a convoy of Wisconsin guys with one or two Michigan DBs getting snowplowed off the field in front of them. The difference between the above and what happened when AJ Henning got an end-around against cover two…

…just leapt off the screen. Michigan never tried this. They never widened a defensive end. They just kept eating it.

One of these entities is a football team. The other is a sack of wet cats.

The cornerbacks remain an issue?

Gray was miserable on the ground in this game but did keep up with and ably defend an attempted double move:

On the other hand this is a very late looping throw from Mertz and Gray should at least be able to tackle on the catch here.

CB #4 to bottom

He just gets crushed by all blocks.

Meanwhile we've seen Green blow a couple zones. Positweet: Green didn't cause a fumble but he did make a play on that slant.

CB #22 to bottom

If he could just play man he might be okay.

Finally, DJ Turner got in briefly and performed the 2020 rite of cornerback passage by being in solid position and then executing an MMA takedown.

Yup.

Heroes?

No one.

Maybe not so heroic?

Ross, the secondary, Don Brown, the defensive line.

What does it mean for Rutgers and beyond

Everyone is broken and nobody knows anything. These sections keep turning into Modest Mouse album titles.

We're spending a lot of money to make ourselves miserable. Ooh good one.

You have nothing to show for all of your efforts. What were you doing in fall camp?

Comments

atticusb

November 19th, 2020 at 3:19 PM ^

Ah, the age old question.... "Nothing can be done to save any part of this season, so what's best for the program? Make a statement now by firing somebody, or pretending that everything is ... progressing ... and waiting till the season ends?"  Honestly, it's clear that this program's approach to all such questions is to rush out and find the biggest rug possible and sweep like hell.  I mean, it's not just Shoop who is apparently MIA... maybe the entire defensive staff has been "coaching remotely" based on how the players look.

GRWolverine1223

November 19th, 2020 at 3:19 PM ^

You guys remember Don Brown's quote on Josh Ross??

"First off, it's not a challenge to coach Josh Ross,” Brown said. “He's the brightest linebacker I've been around in a long time. Even when he was injured in spring, this guy knows his stuff. You don't have to worry about what kind of a days work you get out of Josh Ross." 

https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/14/michigan-football-don-brown-2020-spring-linebacker-lb-breakdown/

.....LMAO

 

 

readyourguard

November 19th, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^

We could find quotes on nearly everybody:

Jeter has finally put it all together 

Aidan Bosa

#1 Freak for 2021 draft

Barrett is Khaleke 2.0

Hill might be the best cover guy in the conference 

4th year Hawkins will give Michigan the best safety tandem in the league

And so on, and so on.

Pre-Season Hype National Champions for the 15th straight year 

RockinLoud

November 19th, 2020 at 3:22 PM ^

I would say I'm flabbergasted at such an utter and complete failure & collapse, but that would be like saying the Grand Canyon is a little crack in the ground. I mean:

AlbanyBlue

November 19th, 2020 at 3:24 PM ^

RE: formation notes: Le Boeuf. That's really all I have. It is what it is at this point.

Thanks, as always, for doing these. When we play well, they are a pleasure to read. When we play badly, it's like a train wreck. I can't look away and must read.

Kilgore Trout

November 19th, 2020 at 3:35 PM ^

Interesting that Hill came out so poorly. My main reaction in real time to the defense was noticing that Hill seemed like the fastest guy out there who seemed to keep running to the ball and making whatever plays he could (he did get to 11 tackles). Also that he should have gone to Alabama for his own sake. 

lhglrkwg

November 19th, 2020 at 3:36 PM ^

I cannot understand what happened to the defense. They used to be very good against everyone except OSU and against PSU or Wisconsin on the road, now they are horrible against everyone.

DoubleB

November 19th, 2020 at 4:43 PM ^

I've been harping on this for years, but man coverage increases the variance. Run support is usually poor compared to zone. You can usually make big plays (sacks, lot of incompletions), but you also give up big plays.

The talent in the secondary isn't there to run man defense and they can't teach zone in a week in the middle of the season. It makes perfect sense the secondary, that has been torched through the air the past 2 weeks, is now getting gashed in the run game. I'm guessing Gray and company have been taught to keep their eyes on their WR/TE come hell or high water. Well, guess what, it's hard to get off a run block when you are staying on that block to prevent a big PASS play. It's overcompensating for the Michigan State disaster. 

I said this last week, but they should dump the zone stuff. Run the man schemes that the players know and coach them up as best you can on their mistakes. Frankly, I would bring more pressure also.

bronxblue

November 19th, 2020 at 3:50 PM ^

I don't know what the team has moved to running zone.  They clearly don't know how to do it effectively, both from a player as well as coaching perspectives.  So might as well run out there with man and take your licks; it's not like Wisconsin would have done any better and at least you can play a defense you sorta understand.  

The defensive line at this point is just sorta there but I'm amazed the linebackers are this bad.  That's an area of the team that just shouldn't have regressed this much.

AC1997

November 19th, 2020 at 3:52 PM ^

So it seems like what happened was this....

  1. Recruiting, development, and retention issues leave us with horrible CBs and poor DTs.
  2. Brown tries out his system that's always been successful (except against OSU) for fall camp and tries to squeeze as much out of everyone as possible.
  3. MSU sees the flashing warning sign at CB and says "let's bomb them all day" and maybe gave the refs some cookies or something to call anything resembling PI.  
  4. Brown tries to move to a defense he isn't comfortable with (mostly zone) and didn't coach all fall.  Things get worse, not better.
  5. We lose our two NFL defensive ends and all semblance of hope is gone. 
  6. We are a sack of wet cats.

At this point I would much rather watch us lose when we run a defense that puts our guys in the right place but they just aren't good enough to execute than to try and teach and old dog new tricks and look worse.  What is beyond comprehension to me is that Brown created very good defenses at BC with worse players than we have.  How did we then get so bad so fast?

If you're Rutgers OC right now (then I'm sorry first of all) you are looking at this defense and saying....

- If I run jet sweeps they should work.

- If I run a reverse it should work

- If I throw a deep pass to the outside it should work

- If I throw a crossing route it should work

- If I run a full-back dive up the middle it should work

bluegoinggray

November 19th, 2020 at 3:54 PM ^

"This is a bad football team with bad players who are badly organized. They cannot run man coverage, they cannot run zone coverage, their linebackers don't know where to be, the defensive tackles are lucky to stay vaguely near the line of scrimmage, and the defensive ends are injured."

 

Woof.

The Denarding

November 19th, 2020 at 4:56 PM ^

I think the team limited their Covid exposure by likely not going as hard in fall practice.   Lots of walk throughs, limited contact drills.   That is the risk in my personal opinion.   This coaching staff also tries to implement things that only a veteran team can execute on and ends up realizing that they are too young in too many positions to do so.   Then they slim everything back down to being read and react and usually the bad stuff stabilizes.    I think there are a confluence of circumstances leading to bad things occurring that are manifesting as problems across the board.   I DON'T believe that Don Brown all of a sudden forgot how to coach defense.   But when the guy who teaches zone defense is like MIA and the entire remaining team is children learning how to walk, I think trying to teach zone or complex concepts radically different than what they historically do is a BAD idea.   I suspect they will fix it by going back to their man understanding and their base defense so that they are grounded on keys that they are comfortable or familiar with.   It feels like information overload on both sides of the ball.   

WHAT IS a long term problem is the awful recruiting - I think the CBs will be fine over time but not having penetrating DTs or any depth with DTs is A HUGE MISS and should be laid right at the feet of the defensive coaching staff.    

BornInA2

November 19th, 2020 at 4:09 PM ^

I've had to fight to get C19 tested before my daughter gets home from college on Sunday. Like really fight. And yet we've burned up countless thousands of tests to play games. A bunch of which we aren't actually playing because the tests found what was obviously and inevitably going to happen.

And the the games that are happening are generally garbage.

Imagine if we used all those tests for college kids who are going home this week and their families, instead of for optional and shitty games. So, you know, the virus won't spread as much as it's now going to spread because normal people have to fight to get one test that a bunch of kids playing a game are getting multiple times a week.

So. Dumb.

MGoStrength

November 19th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^

Everyone is broken and nobody knows anything. These sections keep turning into Modest Mouse album titles.

I get the talent thing, particularly when we're down our #1CB, #1WDE, & #1SDE.  But, what's with guys simply not knowing what to do?  It's one thing not to be able to execute it, but not knowing what to do from a coaching staff that has been able to teach other guys what to do in the past seems odd.  Why doesn't Ross know what to do?  Why doesn't the secondary know what to do?  Why can't we contain the edges?  Guys did it last year.  I'm at a loss.

Mpfnfu Ford

November 19th, 2020 at 4:25 PM ^

Don Brown's never run this stuff as a coach, so he sucks at teaching it and they spent every second since all these guys got on campus teaching something completely different. The thing the "just play more zone" crowd never understood is you can't just become Iowa after one week of practice. 

Even if you replaced Don Brown with Tony Dungy, there's no way these guys are able to get up to speed on that within the football season

MGoStrength

November 19th, 2020 at 5:05 PM ^

That might explain it on defense, or at least some of it.  It doesn't explain the d-line.  And, it doesn't explain why Warriner, who is widely accepted as a good o-line coach, can't teach guys who to block.  I never knew it was so hard to ID who to block until UM starting doing it.  Lately it's been an issue with seemingly every staff since Carr retired at some point.

andrewgr

November 19th, 2020 at 5:11 PM ^

They played lots of zone last year.  Lots.  Like, 48.3% of snaps in 2019.

This, "Don Brown doesn't know it", "We never practice it" narrative is just false.  It doesn't have any truth to it.  

I don't have the answer for the Defensive struggles either, but it's definitely not "Oh God, we're running a defense we never practice."

AC1997

November 19th, 2020 at 6:06 PM ^

I get the talent thing only to a point.  Losing Ambry at a position of shaky depth was crippling.  Losing two NFL DEs throws everything out the window.

BUT.....  If you compare our current roster and depth chart to what Brown had a BC - is the talent that bad?   He turned chicken sh** into chicken salad at BC and yet we're getting the former with better talent?  Come on.....

I still say - coach what you're good at and live with the limitations than looking like hot garbage doing something you're not.  

MGoStrength

November 19th, 2020 at 8:14 PM ^

There are too many things that don't make sense.  Too many talented players not producing.  Too many proven coaches getting shit on-field results.  Too many highly ranked recruits not developing.  Too many guys that were better last year than this year.  This screams culture and a lack of leadership and direction.  And, that's all JH.  JH himself may be tough and disciplined, but he does not know how to generate in his team.  He's not even creating a fun one either.  He's creating a disjointed, undisciplined, & uninspired team.  Attitude & effort can do a lot.  Right now we don't have any of it.

Mpfnfu Ford

November 19th, 2020 at 4:21 PM ^

Don Brown was a great hire when it was made, when the big road block to Michigan success was a spread to run outfit. His defenses DID perform well against the old Urban spread. Now that the spread to run has gone the way of the wishbone and everyone has moved to passing RPO heavy spread offenses, he's about as useful as tits on a boar. I'm not sure what's more painful to watch, Michigan trying to run Don's man-heavy scheme with no corners and getting torched over the top or trying to watch the rest of the defense be completely mind fucked by the concept of zone.

Whatever they do with Harbaugh, Don's got to go as soon as humanly possible.