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Brian May 14th, 2019 at 4:16 PM

HELLO. I didn't expect to be doing this for another five years or so. But here we are. Here's your daily update on Michigan's basketball coaching search.

PORTER NO-SIR

Porter Moser has been brought up by both 24/7 and Rivals. This would be the worst possible scenario. His second-best Loyola team ranks 97th on Kenpom. The miracle run to the Final Four was the most fluketastic possible, with a buzzer-beater in the first round followed by two one-point wins and a nine-seed in the regional final. He's been at Loyola for eight years and has two .500 or better conference campaigns.

Moser has accomplished vastly less than Tommy Amaker, who's been to the tourney four times and has seven Ivy titles in 12 years at Harvard.

Moser would be hiring Brady Hoke. His main appeal appears to be a particular brand of stodginess that Michigan's old guard continually laps up. The kind of people still farting on like amateurism is worth preserving are in Moser's corner. And even that doesn't make sense. If you want more Beilein, just hire an assistant or LaVall Jordan. Moser is so far below the Yak line it's incredible anyone would even bring his name up. The concern with an assistant is that they might not be able to run a program at an elite level. We know for a fact Porter Moser cannot do this.

[After THE JUMP: tbh I'm on Team Juwan if we're not getting an established high level guy]

THE OMINOUS DIRECTION

Moser is one thing. The absence of Billy Donovan is another. Sam says he would be "very surprised" if Michigan reached out to Donovan because he is not perceived as a fit. This is a classic case of Michigan punching itself in the face so they can feel superior to people who aren't punching themselves in the face. Donovan endured an NCAA investigation into his recruiting practices in 2003 after Roy Williams, then at Kansas, accused him of cheating. It came back empty. (Yeah: Roy Williams, at Kansas, complaining about someone else cheating.) Here's some of the stuff they were furious about:

At the SEC Media Day gathering in Birmingham on Nov. 4 South Carolina coach Eddie Fogler, once a colleague of Williams’s at North Carolina, coyly questioned Donovan’s integrity by raising the subject of an unnamed SEC coach’s ties to Atlanta-based financial adviser Bret Bearup, who in August had bankrolled a trip to France for a team of high school stars that included Mike Miller, Nelson and Bonner. “It’s all legal, but is it ethical?” Fogler said.

Overseas trips as recruiting inducements. Michigan would never.

So many of the other names that are coming up early are equally or even more insane than Moser. Rivals brought up Bradley coach Brian Wardle as a "guy who will get a look." That is bonkers. Bradley got to the tournament this year after a 9-9 MVC season by scraping by in three straight conference tourney games against teams that were ranked 131, 171, and 177 on Kenpom. Also he's this guy:

“He pulled me aside and said their policy of me not given extra coverage opportunity was still in place, and I was not allowed to do any interviews. I told him, ‘The newspaper received the invitation.’ He said, ‘That was directed to (Huett), not to you.’ I said, ‘He doesn’t cover the team. I have for 29 years.’

“He responded by saying, ‘You don’t promote the Bradley brand, and basically we don’t want you here.’ I said, ‘Jason, that’s not my job to promote the Bradley brand. You know that.’

“He said, ‘That’s what we decided.’ I said, ‘Who’s we?’ He said, ‘Bradley University.’ I said, ‘You realize how petty this is, Jason?’ ”

Reynolds talked with Wardle, who echoed Bradley’s stance.

Wardle isn't even a one-hit wonder mid-major and he's got a giant red media relations flag. Hard pass.

Other names include fairy tales like Brad Stevens, who Sam gave the "I'm saying there's a chance" treatment to, and ludicrously bad options. Rivals just mentioned Mike Brey, who's 61 and finished last in the ACC this year, and a 61-year-old North Carolina assistant who hasn't been a head coach since a disastrous 64-86 run at FSU around the turn of the millennium. I mean: what? Billy Donovan can't get a look but we're putting a guy from Academic Fraud U on the list?

I guess the hope here is that the names getting thrown out are smoke screens and this will all be fine when a rabbit is pulled from the hat.

KEEPING THE BAND TOGETHER

This Woj bomb did not cause me to go into a catatonic state, so hooray.

That should help Michigan maintain their current staff in the event that an internal hire is required, or it's Juwan Howard and Howard wants an experienced college staff for the same reason Beilein wants an experienced NBA staff.

JUWAN: WHY NOT?

The one rumble from a reporter that hasn't caused me pain (please ignore Jay Williams's hot take):

Juwan Howard will apparently interview at Michigan as well. He's landed a third head coach interview in the NBA, this one with the Timberwolves. He was already a finalist for the Lakers and Cavs jobs.

And, honestly, if we're not doing Billy Donovan or Steve Prohm—who has inexplicably not drawn a single mention despite being the obvious best option amongst acquirable D-I coaches—I'm much more willing to take a swing on a potential home run than fart around with a mid-major coach who's a proven mediocrity.

Howard may be more likely to flame out in a few years than Moser but he's far, far more likely to be a combination of strategic chops and recruiting power. And he's also less likely to flame out in a few years.

RECRUITS STICKING WITH IT FOR NOW

Per Ethan Sears:

Despite this, 24/7 Evan Daniels put in lightning quick crystal balls for both to flip, Bajema to Washington and Wilson to Kansas. That seems absurdly premature. Both guys are signed and would have to ask out of their LOIs to switch. Michigan would no doubt allow this but they might at least ask the two guys to wait to see who the hire is. Brian Snow also talked to Wilson and explicitly said that he would wait to see who the hire was before making any final decisions.

OTHER GUYS NOT MENTIONED YESTERDAY

It's inevitable to omit a few reasonable options when you're surveying some 350 D-I programs. A couple names were brought up that are in the realm of the plausible.

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Randy Bennett, St. Mary's. 56-year-old has been the head coach at St Mary's for 18 years. In that time he's built the Gaels into Gonzaga's sidekick in the WCC. They've finished worse than second in the league just twice since Bennett got his program up and going in year three, and have two shared titles and one outright title in that time. He's got 7 bids in his tenure with one run to the Sweet 16, and they've made the tourney or NIT every year since 2008.

The Kenpom profile is encouraging, too: the Gaels have been 34th or better the last four years and haven't dipped below 67th for a decade. Two years ago they were 15th.

Two main issues. One: Bennett has lifetime job security at St Mary's—they handed him a ten-year contract a couple years back—and anyone who's had the level of success he's had at a mid-major and hasn't left is obviously inclined to be a lifer at his current location.

Two: St Mary's success has been built on a pipeline of Aussies. Last year's team had six on the roster. Maintaining that pipeline another four hours (and a connection) away from Australia might be tough. And partially as a result, Bennett's recruiting prowess is questionable. The St. Mary's all-time recruits list is a bunch of internationals and zero top 100 Americans. St Mary's is right outside of San Francisco and had a lot of success at a point where the Pac-12 imploded. Bennett's inability to recruit a four-star kid by accident during this period is a bit of a red flag.

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Ed Cooley, Providence. Cooley's the guy who looks like Bunk Moreland's older brother and honestly I had assumed he was ancient, which is why I didn't mention him. He's not. He's 49. After building Fairfield into a top-end MAAC team in five years he moved to Providence, which was then on a seven-year tourney drought and consecutive 4-14 conference seasons. After a couple years of building he got Providence to embark on a five-year streak of NCAA appearances, which was snapped this year.

Cooley hasn't been past the second round and only one of those teams, a 6 in 2015, was seeded to win a first-round game. That 2015 team is his high water mark on Kenpom at #27; the rest of his tourney teams are 44th to 63rd.

Cooley does have some recruiting juice. Last year he grabbed two top 50 players in the unfortunately named David Duke and AJ Reeves; this year's solitary croot is Greg Gantt, who's ranked 62nd. He could probably get some dudes in with Michigan's increased profile and recent success.

Cooley is a Providence native and could decide to stay at home. Probably not. But it's a possibility.

Mike White, Florida. His name keeps coming up but he seems to be in a gray area where he'd be super expensive and his results might not warrant it. He took over for Donovan four years ago; after an NIT season to start he's gotten a 4, 6, and 10 seed. The trajectory is not ideal, and he walked into a program that has a ton of resources and recent success.

He is recruiting really well, but it's boggling that his name is on the table for recruiting well at Florida and Billy Donovan is apparently "not a fit." White's at the same school doing the same thing without winning as many games. How do you think someone is recruiting well in the Year Of Our Lord 2019?

EMOTIONAL DEVASTATION LEVEL

inching upwards to 8.2 due to Moser prominence

Comments

Double-D

May 14th, 2019 at 5:34 PM ^

Warde says he wants a coach who can coach without 5 stars.   What’s wrong with getting some 5 stars?    He wants the 2nd coming of JB.....he wants lightning to strike twice.  

M-Dog

May 14th, 2019 at 6:13 PM ^

Exactly.

Does everybody get that Beilein is not the norm?

At the end of the day, Beilein created 5 stars.  

He never really actually coached without 5 stars.  He just built his own.

That is an incredibly rare talent. (And somewhat useless in the NBA, TBH.)

That lightning is not striking twice.

 

club2230

May 14th, 2019 at 5:46 PM ^

Am I the only one who read this article and just saw baseless speculation?  

We don't know who will or will not be contacted unless a university source (Webb, rivals or 247 don't count) says something, a meeting can be confirmed, or an interview had.

  It sounds like "Cutcluff turned down UofM" in here with many of the posters sounding like the media in this case.

Bodogblog

May 14th, 2019 at 5:47 PM ^

Negative is that it probably will be Moser. 

Positive is the rage that Brian feels will cause him to run for Regent and win.  You have my vote and campaign contribution, Brian. 

Jota09

May 14th, 2019 at 5:56 PM ^

Man, this fan base is so pessimistic right now.  We are a day and a half into this out of the blue coaching search.  Do you really believe any of this random conjecture that gets spouted off by people without much connection to Michigan?  The only thing that I read here that seemed remotely like Intel was that link to Sam's text messages in the comments.  Who knows how true it is, but I can get behind Gregg Marshall as coach.  He's basically us hiring Beilein again.  A very good coach who has questions about recruiting.  Randy Bennet would be the same but he hasn't had conference competition like Marshall. But seriously, we are still in the feeling out stage.  Calls are being made and the people receiving them are deciding if they really want to talk or leverage it for more money. Let things play out for a few days and reassess Monday. 

Jota09

May 14th, 2019 at 7:51 PM ^

Very true, and it is annoying about Donovan.  Michigan seems to always want to basketball at a disadvantage compared to other schools with similar resources and expectations.  Hopefully we get our collective heads right in that regard. But Sam has probably not talked to Warde about this recently and maybe that's changed.  Hopefully.  

ERdocLSA2004

May 14th, 2019 at 6:00 PM ^

This is brutal.  Manuel, just hire Yaklich and get first in line for next years free agent market.  Do not try too hard....naming a mid-major coach as the Michigan head coach and paying him a lot of money doesn’t suddenly make someone a good coach.  I feel like he’s going to try and pull a rabbit out of a hat and it’s not going to go well.

AlanTech

May 14th, 2019 at 6:06 PM ^

I've seen zero mention anywhere of Ben Howland. NCAA appearances at four schools (N. Arizona, Pitt, UCLA, and Mississippi St.) and three straight Final Fours at UCLA. I know there was the "out of control program" article in SI about Howland's later years in Westwood, but he seems to have re-established his career at Mississippi St.

michymich

May 14th, 2019 at 6:12 PM ^

There is another way of looking at this and someone made a good suggestion. Look, Beilein is 66 years old so it wasn't like he was going to be coaching for another 10 years right? The change had to be made at sometime. Was UM going to be a juggernaut next year? No.

So let's ask ourselves what is the problem right now? It's change. It's not having an individual ready to take over that is proven. Maybe going the interim route is the best way to assure the new recruits come in and see what a current assistant does for a year or two.

This is a transition period for UM. If you can't hit it out of the park then go the safe route. I hate to break it to people but UM wasn't going to win a title in 2019/2020.

This was the perfect time for Beilein to go. Time was running out and he is leaving UM capable but he can't achieve anything substantially more at this time at UM and his roster is flawed right now and he dang well knows it.

This is a 2 year process in my mind to get the right coach and personnel in the program after losing Poole, Iggy and Matthews with the rest of the roster. I'll ask the obvious question, where would this team finish this coming year as the roster stands right now? 5th or 6th?

 

 

cletus318

May 14th, 2019 at 6:15 PM ^

All the scuttlebutt about this search seems to reflect that the institution would rather be in the NIT than risk even the slightly hint of impropriety. Considering the level of dirt in college basketball, this seems completely shortsighted.

Alumnus93

May 14th, 2019 at 6:24 PM ^

Part of me would really like to see what Howard could do.  Man, watching them play... his two years here was just a bomb... surely he'd recruit to that end in mind, too. But coaches who come from the NBA... will they like recruiting ?  The offseason is a drag.... not sure if a pro coach will want to return to college.

ak47

May 14th, 2019 at 6:49 PM ^

The names being leaked to insider sites by the AD are less than encouraging. There are good options out there and they are just throwing out trash? If this is the list of names warde pulled together last year I’ll go from thinking he gets unnecessary flack to wanting him fired before he can fuck up another program.

1VaBlue1

May 14th, 2019 at 7:16 PM ^

At this point, I expect something awful - like Porter Moser caliber awful with no reach out to Donovan.  And if that happens, Warde will lose the tepid support I still have for him.  I mean, that will make zero difference to him (or to anything else, for that matter), but it will mean something to me.

Is it worth writing the AD to register my disgust?

Aww, never mind.  I'm trying to register disgust with a situation that hasn't even happened!  I guess my long time Michigan fandom is showing through...

Carolina Wolverine

May 14th, 2019 at 7:56 PM ^

Just throwing an improbable name out there. Geno Auriemma. Manuel worked with him at UCONN. Way out of the box, but he wins championships and gets top recruits. Crazy maybe, but better than pretty much the whole ‘realistic’ lists I’ve seen

Carolina Wolverine

May 14th, 2019 at 8:00 PM ^

As for Warde, can’t we wait at least 72 hours before we start trashing the guy? He has nothing to do with Coach B leaving. We don’t know what he’s thinking. He might really screw this up, but don’t talk like he has already. At least he supposedly has a list in case this happened. If true, he’s way ahead of the rest of us. 

SouthOfHeaven

May 14th, 2019 at 8:12 PM ^

The bit about the "old-guard" wanting a guy like Moser is maddening. I fail to see how getting smoked like a microwaved hot dog by our rivals and becoming a laughing stock in a highly-publicized major-revenue sport is good for the university at all. Have they learned nothing from the Hoke fiasco?

wolverine in the 216

May 14th, 2019 at 8:34 PM ^

Guys like Moser, our assistants, or the other Plan B names could very well be successful at Michigan or elsewhere. But the progress that the program made under Beilein is too important for us to settle on a hopeful candidate. Aim big. I don’t know if Warde can close the deal, but there is no reason to play it safe. 

JJJ

May 14th, 2019 at 8:55 PM ^

Billy Donovan has got to be the guy. He has an awesome college record and can recruit. Beilein was awesome but missed on many big recruits. I don’t know why, maybe you do called experts do but it was the only disappointing thing about the Beilein era. I’m tired of overcompensating for the Fab Five “violations”. Let’s compete on a level playing field and stop handicapping ourselves! 

Billy Donovan gives us our best chance.

Perkis-Size Me

May 14th, 2019 at 8:49 PM ^

Swing for the fences with Donovan. If he or someone like Greg Marshall aren’t available, I’d honestly just give Saadi or Yaklich the reins next year and see what they can do. They’d at least be able to keep the ship afloat for a year. If they perform well or exceed expectations, then give them a contract and the program is theirs.

If they don’t, then Warde has almost a full year to get all his ducks in a row and have his first pick of hires after next season is over.

bighouse22

May 14th, 2019 at 9:28 PM ^

Porter Moser feels like Hoke redux.  The noise coming out feels like Groundhog Day as the Hoke trial balloon was sent out to prepare the fanbase in advance of his actual hiring.  I remember discounting the noise as nonsense until it actually occurred.

bronxblue

May 14th, 2019 at 10:35 PM ^

I feel like all the Porter talk is coming from a couple of blind items posted on message boards from guys who heard something from someone.  Maybe Michigan makes a play for him and it blows up in everyone's face, but at this point I've come to expect that UM will say one thing publicly while working in a completely different direction behind the scenes.

And honestly, I'm okay with them passing on Donovan.  Not so much because I particularly care about his past as much as it is pretty obvious he wouldn't be a long-term solution at UM.  He has no real ties to the university, is young enough to want to coach other places, and is probably just using this as a way to either get more money/security from OKC.  He's not particularly popular in OKC AFAIK, but that also feels like a team without much of a future as long as Westbrook is inefficiently running the show.

Honestly, if you're going to the NBA get Howard and if not him, go with Washington or Yak.  

Bill22

May 15th, 2019 at 12:09 AM ^

My top choice would be Matt Painter.  I know he’s a Purdue alum, but he may be looking for a new challenge?  I just think if we can’t have Beilein, Jay Wright or Tony Bennett I would want Painter.  Let’s back up the Brinks truck and make it happen!

SoccerDancer

May 15th, 2019 at 12:22 AM ^

Since 'everyone' is just essentially throwing mud on the wall to see what sticks, here's a question. Do we know of example in basketball, where very successful HS coache(s) have made the jump and done it at a major level? What about some of the coaches who coach these summer HS all star bball teams?  Who are those guys? They know the kids, they've seen the system, they're working with elite players?   Or am I just the insane uncle at the holiday party who needs to just go sit down and shut up?