Michigan to integrate RPO concepts
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH JORDAN POOLE
March 20th, 2018 at 10:47 PM ^
Poole is just a little kid in a man's body. Totally adorable.
March 22nd, 2018 at 12:55 AM ^
just described all adult males.
March 21st, 2018 at 11:07 AM ^
I love me some Poole like everyone else, but teacher in me can't help but see some annoying ADHD kid that can't sit still and shut up while I'm giving instructions.
We've.
already.
had.
RPOs.
UGH.
Three months ago I wouldn't have guessed that the misguided RPO obsession would be the worst part of the offseason, but here we are.
I mean I will on Thursday, but Monday through Wednesday I am reminded that our fanbase loves to complain about a sport they don't understand the intricacies of.
Yeah. We are people. This is fine. Woosah.
"We need a Modern offense like the read option!!"
"Wait till Barwis get's his new system in!"
" We need more spread like Oregon!"
"MANBALL" (With derision).
Second guessing schemes and decisions based on 3.5 hours of viewing a week and their HS football experience. It's what we do. ;-)
Is that the politically correct way of saying your tired of comments from people who don't know jack shit about football.LOL. You are one of the guys I actually look forward to hear from and actually agree with most of the time. I personally don't know all the intricacies of an offense, but most people understand any offense is going to look dysfuntional with a QB who is not very talented.
To me Michigan moves to RPO just by having Patterson in the backfield whether by design or not. He will move the chains on certain downs but I don't think he will be asked to run the ball very often. That is what I think we will see Barrett doing.
March 20th, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
RPOs are to the football fanbase what playing two big men is to the basketball fanbase.
March 20th, 2018 at 11:29 PM ^
I'm the fan for basketball that I complain about for football. However, because of that, I keep my basketball commentary to "That shot was bad", "this guy is good", "that game was fun".
That's because what we saw last year on the field looked like neither running nor passing, so as a fanbase, we're confused. We want running AND passing, and we get excited at the possibility...
March 21st, 2018 at 12:02 PM ^
Well we were quite good running the ball last year. However, with RPOs, when the read is a hand off, many people who don't know what they were looking for think that the play call was just a run, not an RPO. We ran an RPO early in the MSU game that was a handoff that Evans took for like 6 yards, but the play was an RPO, the read was just "hand off".
So of course, we are going to go crazy over it and ignore the reality. It's the nature of football fans.
March 21st, 2018 at 10:54 AM ^
March 21st, 2018 at 12:31 PM ^
it's when you try to force it onto the wrong personnel.
also, the fact that cris collinsworth thinks that literally any play action is "RPO action."
March 22nd, 2018 at 12:57 AM ^
be fair, I don't think it was that noticable given the situation with the offensive line.
RPO or no RPO, I just want the offense to have a semblance of rhythm. Watching other teams' offenses, it just seemed like Michigan was completely out of whack even when things were working we'd just go away from it or run random play action passes like we're in Madden.
March 20th, 2018 at 10:00 PM ^
March 20th, 2018 at 11:07 PM ^
March 20th, 2018 at 11:19 PM ^
You said it perfectly. It was like we were running random plays out of Madden with no semblence of rythym or the sitaution
Michigan runs a pro style offense and for that to function properly and look like they are in rhythm the QB has to throw on schedule. Michigan's QB's were flat out brutal at that, hence stare directly at a blitzing LB and take a sack. The ball should have allready been gone. You are throwing to a spot on time. Play action passes would have worked great and got huge chunks of yardage, but most of the time the ball was inacurate or thrown to the wrong receiver because of an improper read.
How many times did we see a receiver running wide open and either the ball was delivered out of bounds, over there heads or more often or not into coverage.
We can talk about RPO or whatever concepts anyone wants to but until you have a decent QB it will always make the coaching staff look bad. Just look at the two halves of the national championship. In the simplest terms possible Michigan's offense was really bad because the QB play flat out sucked. The bowl game the whole offense sucked along with special teams and the never reliable safety's. That game was flat out on the players. Fumbles in the red zone, ball clanking off of DPJ's helmet fielding a fair catch. ETC.
That is the stuff I hope I never see again. To me Michigan's offense will be just fine with the right player behind center running the offense. No matter what the concepts are. I watched high school games were the QB was completing passes easily that JOK could not.
My guess is while watching the spring game one QB will stand out and Michigan's offense will be much better this year and it will have nothing to do with RPO.
In many cases the execution sucked. I don't care what offense was running, or what would be whiz on the board thinks they could have done differently on the field that would have somehow elevated our offense to respectability. When the execution craters, you aren't going to do much.
Is there cause for concern? Yes.
The coaches are the ones that put in the fundamentals; and if the players are screwing that up, then you have to be worried to some extent. And the coaches admitted they made mistakes.
Were there mitigating circumstances? Yes.
A new, young line couldn't catch it's rythm (which is a concern, see above), and we went through 3 QB's. Our best WR was a Frosh who got injured, and our 2nd best was a freshmen.
By the end of the season I think that they were just keeping the offense together with philosophical chewing gum and bailing wire.
Is their reason for hope?
I think so. The coaching staff has been revamped, we have a WR coach now. Freshmen will take a leap. We have a new O line coach who is highly touted and replaces a guy who for whatever reason wasn't getting it done.
Should we temper expectations somewhat?
Yes. This is a brutal season and we don't have a shoe in for starting QB, or a clearly defined system.
Overall, I choose to be cautiously optimistic. This isn't a Shit show.
March 21st, 2018 at 11:10 AM ^
Exactly, get an identity and get good at a few things. I don't care what those things are. But, one of them has to involve something other than handing the ball off.
with the staff throwing in too many new fancy pants concepts like RPO last year?
all due respect; people complain that the offense has too many formations, too many plays, too many personel groupings, etc. Then when they simplify the offense, people complain that they are too predictable.
RPO isn't anything new. Even to our offense.
March 20th, 2018 at 10:11 PM ^
March 21st, 2018 at 12:10 AM ^
I've started charging.
That's a penalty in basketball.
/s
I know you're joking, but you might be more likely to lose a stunt on an RPO, especially if the run call is gap scheme, since the OL is blocking for the run call. If the front seven comes downhill, your read is probably going to be to pull the ball and throw it, but you're also probably going to get hit. It's rare to have your read on an RPO be pass and not have at least one defender get through to the QB.
March 20th, 2018 at 10:38 PM ^
we get it dude chill out
March 20th, 2018 at 10:59 PM ^
DrMantisCurmudgeon!
March 20th, 2018 at 11:05 PM ^
Why doesn't our offense use this play concept I don't understand and just now heard about?!
Well actually we have used it some, it's not rea-
Hey chill out man, give the explaining a rest, nerd.
Okay...
March 20th, 2018 at 11:34 PM ^
Why do you hate the RPO so much? I think that will really improve our offense--running quarterback! Do you hate our freedoms too?