Two MORE redshirts burned
Going through the box score and the participation report, I noticed that we have two more burned redshirts.
Carlo Kemp and Elysee Mbem-Bosse both got into the action.
At this point it's easier to list those who still HAVE their redshirt as 21 of the 26 players that made it to the team from the 2016 class have burned their redshirt.
Those players with RS still remaining are: Ronald Johnson, Quinn Nordin, Brandon Peters, Stephen Spanellis and Kareem Walker.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:27 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 1:30 PM ^
Give us the inside scoop.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:41 PM ^
Since Peters is the backup's, backup's, backup he has to be freaking AMAZING. God forbid if he is behind Malzone as well....Fred Jackson's head would straight up explode trying to express his superlatives.
/science
September 18th, 2016 at 1:59 PM ^
It's amazing how much worse a QB instantly becomes the minute he is called "starter" rather than "backup"...
September 18th, 2016 at 7:40 PM ^
rotate two QBs between serie instead of sticking with a single starter.
If you think about it, after each series, the QB is demoted to backup, and so the backup QB is always taking the field. Genius!
September 18th, 2016 at 1:34 PM ^
He not be burned. Seems unsafe really.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:50 PM ^
OK, this is just foolish. In no way is Brandon ready to play, especially with our three very tough road games this season.
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whatever
September 18th, 2016 at 1:31 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 1:33 PM ^
What did he ever do to you?
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September 18th, 2016 at 1:48 PM ^
...by watching Star Wars.
September 18th, 2016 at 5:38 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 1:39 PM ^
So? The best players should play.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:45 PM ^
This is pretty significant given the previous record for true freshmen playing (11) has been doubled with the 2016 total being 22 total including PWO Carl Myers.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:57 PM ^
We had two consecutive small recruiting classes in 2014 and 2015. That also hasn't happened much in Michigan football history. Hence more of a need to plug in the freshmen.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:45 PM ^
If they are playing in the first half, then yes, the best players play. Garbage time, not so much.
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September 18th, 2016 at 1:54 PM ^
When would you want a true freshman to make his career debut - in a close game?
I think it makes more sense to ease them in in non-pressure situations.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:45 PM ^
September 18th, 2016 at 1:50 PM ^
Nobody says "we burned his redshirt" for a freshman Heisman candidate. To me, the term has a negative implication. But maybe that's just me!?
September 18th, 2016 at 1:44 PM ^
Ohio State seems to be doing pretty well with freshman players.
We are trying to upgrade our athleticism. If our freshmen are good now, let them play.
We'll get some more next year.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:46 PM ^
To me, saying a redshirt is "burned" sounds negative. And wasteful.
Harbaugh pays attention to so many details that most of us would get a headache trying to keep up. If freshman are playing, there's a reason. And I'm fine with that.
I find it exciting that 21 freshman are good enough to make an appearance on the big stage. It has to make practice that much better when kids believe they are truly competing for playing time.
WD - I know you didn't coin the phrase. And your post doesn't take a negative position - other than the term "burned". So I'm not taking iissue with the OP.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:46 PM ^
I don't care about red shirts in most positions. If they help us win now, then play them. Certainly kickers, punters, and quarterbacks are all red "shirtable," so long as there is sufficient depth.
September 18th, 2016 at 1:52 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 2:19 PM ^
I think they can play in one more week but yeah.
The NCAA doesn't seem particularly strict about awarding initial medical redshirts; guys seem to get them for fairly trifling injuries. They are stricter about the 6th year (well, usually).
September 18th, 2016 at 2:39 PM ^
A fair number of those freshmen won't play again this season.
September 18th, 2016 at 3:15 PM ^
"Ah-choo!"
Give him back his redshirt.
September 18th, 2016 at 4:23 PM ^
I bet at the end of the year the redshirt list will be much bigger than the current list. Peters, Davis, Walker, Eubanks, Spanellis, Kemp, Uche, Gil, EMB, Mettelus, and Nordin all seem likely to end up redshirting. I think they wanted to give a handful of these guys a little taste of college football and that's why they played.
The questionable list would probably include Crawford, N. Johnson, and McKeon. McKeon seems college ready and has a low ceiling so there is little real cost to playing him. Crawford and Johnson are both talented enough but not really needed as of now. With that said next year's possible WR could be elite so they can maybe eat the cost of a 5th year for that minimal benefit of playing them this year.
I don't know. We should create a new burned redshirt watch list now that B10 season has started.
September 18th, 2016 at 4:45 PM ^
If they already played then they cant redshirt....unless they get a season ending injury by like next sunday.
Maybe I'm missing something
September 18th, 2016 at 5:08 PM ^
They can't play in more than 30% of the games or any in the second half of the season. The freshmen who have been playing every game aren't likely to redshirt. The ones playing less have several more games. Injuries happen frequently in those circumstances and the NCAA is lenient about them for freshmen.
Expect that some freshmen won't play in a fifth game to keep that possibility open.
September 18th, 2016 at 7:41 PM ^
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September 19th, 2016 at 2:01 AM ^
I think the redshirts to be are done for the year. I think in any case, come B10 there are fewer opportunities to run them out there ideally. Sure Rutgers and Maryland are terrible but we still aren't going to play 80 players those games. Those games seem more suited to the backups getting more minutes. Next year starter types.
September 19th, 2016 at 8:48 AM ^
So 12 x 30% = 4, not 3.6.
I don't know if it includes postseason. That could potentially extend it for a game.