Pure speculation: Grad transfer Taysom Hill would be... pretty good.
No insider info at all. But let me make the pitch:
Hill was a true senior this year, and injured himself in his first game. He also suffered a season-ending injury the year prior, but was not eligible for a medical redshirt as the injury occurred in his fifth game (against USU, as I recall). This will make him eligible for a medical redshirt this year. He is set to graduate.
Our team is really well-positioned for next year in terms of experienced and depth. We lose only Glasgow, Rudock, and the linebackers. We have promising replacements lined up for all but Rudock, because whatever QB starts next would be nothing more than a lottery ticket at the most important position on the field. Also: look at MSU and OSU's depth charts by year. If we had a very capable quarterback, we'd be in contention to win our division and the league.
Hill is an accomplished passer and exceptional runner. He has tremendous injury problems, true, but it's not like the cupboard would be bare were he to go down again - we'd just be back where we started and turn to O'Korn, a RFr., or Morris (I guess). And Hill wouldn't need to carry as much of the load here, especially on the ground, making him more likely to stay healthy.
Finally, we know (1) he committed to Harbaugh at one point, and (2) he stays in contact with him.
Thoughts?
September 20th, 2015 at 6:08 PM ^
He can't stay healthy.
September 20th, 2015 at 6:29 PM ^
September 20th, 2015 at 8:55 PM ^
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September 21st, 2015 at 9:16 AM ^
I mean, pshaw.
September 21st, 2015 at 1:05 PM ^
Pure speculation but it's likely that the best QB on this team cannot see the field because he is O'Korn.
Also pure speculation but I heard that Emma Stone thinks I'm hot.
September 20th, 2015 at 7:45 PM ^
Hey, he had that one year where I think he finished season. Plus, the Utah medical community would never let him leave. He's keeping 2-3 offices fully staffed all on his own.
September 21st, 2015 at 9:47 AM ^
I think there is a much greater chance of Brandon Peters starting as a true freshman than there is of Hill transferring to Michigan.
September 20th, 2015 at 6:09 PM ^
I think that this pretend steak that I will eat for dinner will taste amazing.
September 20th, 2015 at 7:00 PM ^
September 20th, 2015 at 7:28 PM ^
I wouldn't mind some chicken fried steak!
September 20th, 2015 at 8:28 PM ^
September 20th, 2015 at 7:44 PM ^
Pure speculation: Halle Berry dating me would be...pretty good. No insider info...
September 20th, 2015 at 8:21 PM ^
September 20th, 2015 at 6:10 PM ^
From BYU to Ann Arbor. That alone would end his season with cultural whiplash.
September 20th, 2015 at 6:10 PM ^
Nothing beats a rub & tug on my living room rug
September 20th, 2015 at 8:20 PM ^
Note to self: If you ever get an invite to Spicyweiner's crib...keep your shoes on.
September 21st, 2015 at 9:09 AM ^
What about your shirt?
September 21st, 2015 at 11:20 AM ^
Shirts are banned at Spicyweiner's crib. Banana hammocks are encouraged.
September 20th, 2015 at 6:15 PM ^
I expect him to formally retire from football before the season is up
September 20th, 2015 at 6:21 PM ^
Has this been reported anywhere? I hope it's not true, even if my idea is a pipe dream - Hill is a joy to watch.
September 20th, 2015 at 7:54 PM ^
No, but two consecutive season-ending injuries (meaning he likely has minimal shot at a pro career), plus he's getting his degree, and he's already married. It just looks like the logical conclusion for him will be to call it quits, enter the work force, and settle in with his family like many of us have done
September 20th, 2015 at 8:01 PM ^
interest in this possibility, why would it make sense for Harbaugh to recruit a bunch of young kids and promise them they could compete for a starting job, and possibly redshirt a kid now in his third year at qb, and then seek out another fifth year senior to take over the offense next season? How does that help build the kind of team and program he wants to build?
I mean wouldn't it have made more sense for Ohio State to play Miller at quarterback this year instead of starting Jones and Barrett in spite of their success last year? I mean that is what you are proposing Michigan should do, find a Miller to displace guys who have already put in more than a year of work competing and biding their time to get an opportunity to start at qb at Michigan?
You only do that when you feel you are short at the position and need to improve the existing competition to find a capable starter. What would it say about the kids he's already recruited and now continues to recruit at the position? It would tell me, you don't think the guys available are good enough and can't get the job done. Maybe they can't now. But I think Harbaugh will make them all better and good enough to win down the road.
I mean I'm sure Nick Saban wishes he had a fifth year senior running his offense. Maybe he should go after Hill after the season ends. There'd certainly be no culture shock in that move from BYU to Alabama.
September 20th, 2015 at 8:31 PM ^
September 20th, 2015 at 9:22 PM ^
harbaugh has demonstrated hell be creative in order to find the most talented 85 to compete for his squads and then hell play the most productive players. if he honestly believed (a) hill would provide a significant upgrade at QB and (b) hill were interested in playing 5th year elsewhere, im sure hed pursue the kid.
hes a competitive dude who understands the make or break type impact of talented and competent QBs. its the most important position in sport and QBs influence football teams too much to ever take lightly.
yeah, im sure harbaugh tells QB recruits they might be able to play early given the unproven depth chart, and while he believes in their ability and future as prospects, they still need to earn and keep the job by proving theyre best available option to help his team win games - and if harbaugh finds another available QB whos better fit to win games, he would not hesitate
September 20th, 2015 at 6:19 PM ^
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September 20th, 2015 at 6:19 PM ^
Just because he could?
September 20th, 2015 at 6:31 PM ^
that he/she just came up with the idea, an article or tweet or something about this was floated in another thread a couple days ago, so that was the basis.
Though why someone would want to pretend to take credit for this ridiculous idea is beyond me.
September 20th, 2015 at 7:19 PM ^
So you're saying two people cannot possibly think the same thing independently? It's not that original of an idea and certainly plausible that several people to considered this independently of each other.
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September 20th, 2015 at 6:20 PM ^
He actually played well as a freshman at Houston. I'd say he is a "promising" replacement.
September 20th, 2015 at 7:58 PM ^
Wouldn't surprise me if he started next year as long as he's using as transfer year wisely. Promising as a freshman plus a year of Harbaughing should make him a pretty solid QB I think
September 20th, 2015 at 9:50 PM ^
September 20th, 2015 at 6:22 PM ^
NO.
And even if he did, he wouldn't beat out O'Korn. This would be pointless.
September 20th, 2015 at 8:15 PM ^
September 21st, 2015 at 12:33 AM ^
No, just because JOK is better. The only full season we have to compare stats for both Hill and JOK is 2013. Here are the stats:
Hill: 53.9% comp, 2938 yds, 6.7 ypa, 1.36 TD:INT, 118.2 qb rating
JOK: 58.1% comp, 3117 yds, 7.0 ypa, 2.8 TD:INT, 133 qb rating
Thats on only 8 more pass attempts for JOK. Yeah Hill can run a little more, but O'Korn is still mobile and had positive rushing yards (almost 10 ypg) in 2013.
But stats only go so far. JOK is more accurate than Hill, played his ass off this offseason and would have started if he were eligible. He would have a year learning the system that Hill would have to catch up on. And yes, his injury history is far less damning.
I'm saying there is no situation, even at 100% health, that I would rather have Hill. John is going to win a good amount of games here in 16 and 17.
September 21st, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^
Tysom Hill had 1240 more rushing yards and 9 more rushing TDs than O'Korn that season. Granted he carried the ball a lot more but still averaged 5.5 ypc to O'Korns 1.7.
If you want to make the arguement for O'Korn that's fine but to phrase as "Hill can run a little more" without providing the stats is misleading.
Hill coming to Michigan seems unlikely (as we have heard nothing about it) but I woudl rather have both guys on the roster competing for a spot if we have room for it.
September 20th, 2015 at 6:22 PM ^
He graduated high school in 2009--the same QB recruiting class as these guys-
September 20th, 2015 at 7:02 PM ^
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September 20th, 2015 at 7:17 PM ^
True but Denard's first collegiate snap in that WMU game was just incredible.
September 20th, 2015 at 8:29 PM ^
Denard showed flashes in 2009, but he absolutely should have redshirted. Tate was plenty good enough to help that team reach its ceiling; there just wasn't a non-Denard backup option.
This alternate universe is also predicated on looking more like WVU or Arizona than the 2010 team did and retaining RR/Magee for the rest of his eligibility, of course.
October 18th, 2015 at 9:23 PM ^
That wasn't his first snap. It was his first snap at QB.
September 20th, 2015 at 7:46 PM ^
I remember seeing that photo of Denard after he committed and thinking "Who is this guy? Poor dude is probably going to ride the pine." So glad I was wrong about him.
September 20th, 2015 at 9:40 PM ^
Very odd to see Denard not smiling.
September 20th, 2015 at 6:23 PM ^
And he REALLY wants to play next year...I don't see him playing football anymore.
Did he take a mission? Plus redshirt? He's probably older than Jay Harbaugh. It's probably time to move on - but that's his choice. In the end, doubt he's fit for Michigan. He's not even a great thrower from a traditional standpoint. O'Korn, Gentry and Vic can move around enough to give us a different look at the QB position.
September 20th, 2015 at 6:28 PM ^
Is there documentation that he and Harbaugh stay in touch? Seems a little far fetched and against the rules to me.
Seems like he'd be too far behind the other guys that have been on campus
September 20th, 2015 at 6:32 PM ^
September 20th, 2015 at 6:44 PM ^
2. Hill was in the Heismen talks earlier in the month. He is a "big time player"
3. Like LSA mentioned we would be stacked with Hill if he can learn the offence.
4. O'Korn, Morris and the rest of the QB field have no experience. This would inhibit our chances next year since QB is kind of important in football.
I like the idea of at leat looking into grabbing up an experienced transfer.
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