*Sigh* It's Finally Time, #FireWarde. (a wholly unoriginal take on why Michigan must move on from its AD)

Submitted by MaizeBlueA2 on February 6th, 2024 at 11:49 PM

[Diary-worthy. Bumped it to the top for a few days -S]

Another #FireWarde thread?  Yes.  Another post that should probably be a diary?  Yes, that too.  An early vote for the winner of TL;DR thread of the year?  Probably.  But these will probably be my last posts for awhile, so...fuck it, let it ride.  Hopefully it sticks.

My hope is that my unique perspective of college athletics administration and long history with this site, coupled with the fact that its OT season and this isn’t OT, will buy me some leeway. 

The idea for this thread was sparked by a few of my (really long posts) in THIS (https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/herbert-gone?page=8) thread on Ben Herbert's departure.  With that in mind, I stopped adding to that thread because I wanted to sit with my thoughts for a little bit.  Like many of you, I was angry - more like, "fucking pissed" - and I didn't want this to be entirely a reaction of the moment.

In the eyes of many, there have been several reasons to fire Manuel over the years...so what makes this recent misstep any different?  I'll start by sharing a little about that unique perspective.

While still relatively young, I'd like to think of myself as a veteran college athletics administrator.  I have worked in college athletics my entire adult life, starting as a student intern...to this point where my title is now "Executive Associate Athletic Director" (which is just a fancy way of saying senior or executive level administrator).

I'm originally from Ann Arbor (no need to ask, Huron, but didn't graduate from there).  I do not work at Michigan, nor have I ever worked at Michigan.  I do have many friends and colleagues at Michigan.  I have also met Warde Manuel several times, going all the way back to his days at Buffalo. 

I've worked at 10(!) different colleges and universities over the years.  In THIS (https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/herbert-gone?page=8) thread I talk about how college athletics administration is very linear.  Some people get lucky and they find a place they like and they're able to rise within that organization.  Others, like myself, have to move to get to the next rung on the career ladder (some of those were internships - I am intentionally not saying how many because someone in the Michigan athletic department is probably on LinkedIn trying to connect the dots, and that is not the point of this post).

In terms of conferences, my 10 can be broken down by 2 B1G, 2 ACC, 1 Big East, and 5 G5/Mid-Majors.  I've worked in departments just as big as Michigan's, and at public and private schools.

It's this experience which has allowed me to look past *some* of the frustrations that fans have had in the past.  The fact is, most people have no idea what ADs do or are supposed to do.  Some think they're GMs, others think they make every decision in an athletic department, and only few understand the climate around being an AD in 2024 (this NIL thing is wild and most aren't even close to figuring it out).

So many times Warde has been blamed for things that were:

  • A. Out of his control
  • B. Not part of his job responsibilities
  • C. The result of unreasonable expectations 

Other times when he's been blamed, it's been absolutely warranted, but no one is going to bat 1.000.  When Warde was originally hired, I said Michigan was getting a B-level AD.  Solid, nothing groundbreaking, but certainly nothing to be ashamed of.  In fact, I compared him to Harbaugh...who at time wasn't Saban, Swinney or Meyer.  Wasn't Riley or Kelly either.

Since then, I've called him a C+/B-.  He's a C+ AD (Michigan could do a lot worse), and if you grade on a curve due to the fact that there aren't many GREAT ADs right now...a B- is fair.  Emotional people will say F, but come on, he is not an "0-12" AD.  He's a consistently 7-5/8-4 AD who never beats Ohio St. - and too many of those at Michigan will get you fired.

If you don't read much further, here is the problem with Warde.  I said he is a B-level AD...if it was 2004.  He operates at an exceptional level for a 2004 AD, we'd be lucky to have him.  To this day, he's between solid and great at the traditional "AD stuff."  Small problem though, it's 2024.

Athletics administration is moving faster than ever, for reasons I don't have to explain.  It blew past Warde 3-4 years ago and hasn't looked back.  He's antiquated.  The job description for a 2024 AD is like 15% 2004 AD and 85% something completely new.

Sidenote, this is why you are seeing a HUGE trend in college athletics with big time college ADs hiring sitting G5 ADs and making them their "#2."  Ole Miss just did it last week, hired LA Tech's AD to be the #2 at Ole Miss.  In today's world, the #2 is like your classic 2004 AD, while the 2024 AD is doing something almost entirely different.  Iowa's new AD was the AD at Ball St., she left to be the deputy at Iowa, the AD eventually retired, and now she has the top job.

Anyway, now I obviously no longer compare Warde to Harbaugh, I compare him to Brady Hoke.  Who if we're being honest, is probably a C+.  Remember no headset or long-sleeves Brady Hoke?  The guy who couldn't stop clapping and did everything as if he was replacing Gary Moeller in the 90s?  That's Warde Manuel.  Maybe not to that extreme, but it certainly paints the picture I want to paint without further explanation. 

So, why now?  Well, the past two weeks have displayed something you never want to see from ANY AD.  Regardless of the era, the last couple of weeks have been completely inexcusable.  I can look past missteps, some coaching changes, and mismanagement of "unwinnable" situations (e.g., Jim Harbaugh's constant flirting with the NFL during the best 3-year period of our lifetime), but one thing I can't overlook is...a lack of preparation.

Warde, I'm speaking directly to you.  Being prepared for outcomes is literally part of your JOB.  Preparing your staff and coaches for all possible outcomes is literally part of your JOB!  Yes, you have to lead and manage a department, and yes, you have to manage and grow a budget, and sure, you have to fundraise, build facilities, and hire/fire coaches.  But preparation is the key to success and Michigan has been unprepared for this coaching transition except for the obvious part of actually hiring Sherrone Moore.

There was always a chance that Harbaugh was going to leave.  With DeBoer and Fisch off the board, Moore was always the coach if Harbaugh left for the NFL (and probably even if they were on the board).  So why is Michigan so unprepared?

In my current role, I am the sport administrator to our Volleyball and Baseball programs.  In my career I've led the hiring process for 7 active head coaches across 4 different sports.  In my desk right now is a list of 25 volleyball coaches that I would interview tomorrow if I needed to...same for baseball.

On my computer is a checklist of exactly how I would handle the coaching transition with our student-athletes, alums, and donors.  I have already-written boilerplate press releases if we have to make a change AND more for when we hire a new coach.  I know exactly what I'm going to do every step of the way, including how I'm onboarding and setting a new coach up for success.

Why?  Because as a sport administrator, it's my damn job!  How the hell do I know when a coach is going to do something stupid and get fired or if they're going get a dream offer and leave?  I have to be ready for every situation, even if that's an impossible ask (but I can tell you from experience, it's a lot easier when you're prepared!)

Not too long ago I hired a first time head baseball coach.  Here are some things I did to set him up for success (beyond the obvious).

1. Contacted University Communications and made him go through TWO mock opening press conferences with our executive administration team acting as reporters.  Win the first impression!

2. Scheduled a series of meetings with three of our veteran coaches, so he could begin to learn what it takes to have success at our institution. 

3. Before we even offered, I made him share a list of assistant coaches he was interested in bringing on and I strongly recommended he find at least one assistant with D1 head coaching experience (kind of the Martelli thing, even though that hasn't worked out).  I vetted the list and made sure he could execute and move quicky if we offered. 

4. Got him in front of our social media team, it was important to engage and bring a new energy to the program...but I also know a first time head coach doesn't have time for all of that stuff when they're trying to move a family, build a staff, learn the roster, learn their JOB, etc. - so we got 3 weeks worth of content before we ever announced him as the next head coach.  Saves him time and keeps the positive momentum going in the background.

5. Helped him vet and hire coaches for his staff, with the goal of eliminating bias and a first time head coach's natural instinct to just go with what they know and rebuild the things that have worked for them up to this point.

...and so much more.  The point is, I was prepared, and it was a baseball search, and oh, I'm not the athletic director. 

Once again, Warde is not a GM...he can't just start hiring/retaining assistant coaches while Harbaugh is the head coach.  That is not his role, and would never happen.  However, it IS his job to set his new head coach up for success - and I believe he's failed miserably.  As soon as Sherrone was hired, there should have been a detailed plan on how to move the program forward.

Also, with Moore, money can't be an issue, not when you're saving $5M on a head coach.  But here is the thing I said earlier, Warde is antiquated.  He's clearly failed to grasp the notion of value.  Value isn't solely determined by success or merit, value in large part is determined by demand.

I'll give you an example, Erik Bakich is not the best college baseball coach in the country.  He's not.  He also hasn't had the success to warrant being the highest paid coach in college baseball. 

HOWEVER, Bakich's value to Michigan, a northern school in the B1G, with no prestigious history in baseball...is far greater than his value to say, Texas.

So unfortunately, this means you have to pay the man.  If he is the highest paid college baseball coach, so be it!  Get off the "principle" of things and make the best decision for your department.  Of course there is a limit (to salaries), but it's not "he's one of the best in the B1G, so I'm going to give him one of the best in the B1G money."

Ben Herbert was the exact same thing.  Unless he just absolutely wanted to go or unless they're paying him $4M/year...Herbert should still be at Michigan. 

Now, is it true people are leaving college sports at an alarming rate?  Absolutely.  Who knows, I might be next.  The NIL stuff and the money has gotten out of control.  Also, college athletics is a GRIND.  In many ways, much more than pro sports.  Post-COVID, people want their nights and weekends back, they want remote working opportunities, they want to see their families, and they don't want to always be working and tired.  It's only going to get worse.  We are not exempt from what the rest of the world is feeling just because we work in sports.

But again, preparedness.  This shift in society isn't a new phenomenon.  Where is your retention plan, Warde?  What are you doing to keep people at Michigan?  Not just these coaches...everyone, what are you doing that you have never done to keep people at Michigan?  Or are you just saying, "THIS IS MICHIGAN"?  How are you being proactive, considering the current climate?  Or are you just making excuses like almost every other AD out there?  What is your PLAN?

I have had multiple people at Michigan tell me that right now Warde is unprepared, reactive, and making excuses.  It's time to go.

Now Warde isn't all bad, he truly does love Michigan.  It's just time.  The same way it was time for Lloyd to step down because he couldn't stop hiring his friends while the game was passing them by, the same way Hoke had to go because he was too subborn to change or evolve.

I've shared the story many times, I was in the room when Warde told the B1G office, "fine us" when the B1G wouldn't let Michigan wear special #42 jersey patches honoring a fallen member of their community during the B1G Championship game when we played Iowa.  Saw it with my own eyes.

I know that Warde had to smooth over A LOT of damage that Dave Brandon left behind, especially with the conference office.  I know that Warde intentionally didn't go scorched earth in 2016 to defend Harbaugh because he was finally close to winning everyone over and getting things back to "The Big 2" where Michigan had say about some things (understand, at the time it was Gene Smith and everyone else...OSU ran EVERYTHING).  That was a big test to gain trust and he handled everything behind closed doors.  I know he was applauded by the most well-respected ADs on how he handled the Harbaugh post-COVID season contract situation (most ADs fold to the mob in that situation).

Warde has raised money and built buildings...and Michigan, admit it or not, is better/healthier today than it was when he arrived. 

But this nonsense post-hiring Moore was avoidable.  It has nothing to do with "era" and everything to do with doing your job and being prepared.  THAT is why this is the last straw for me.  Michigan could've had all of this ironed out with the remaining staff in 48 hours.  It's understandable that Moore hasn't filled the vacant positions (LB coach, Minter, and JayBaugh were always gone).  You have to interview new candidates for those roles, but Herbert, Elston, (maybe Clink)...these guys were already on the team!!  There could've been a whole "Those Who Stay" social media campaign for the returning coaches (celebrating their return to Michigan), we lost the moment and the momentum. 

So, the time has come, the industry came and went, and quite frankly, Warde is lucky he got a championship out of it.  It is clear, Warde was a solid AD for the past, but he is *NOT* the person that is going to lead Michigan into the future.  The thing he signed up for is not the the thing is oversees today, and we aren't going back - and for all of these reasons, #FireWarde.

 

Go Blue!

snarling wolverine

February 7th, 2024 at 12:28 PM ^

Offering a guy a 50% paycut, which pisses him off to the point that he looks to leave every future opportunity, shouldn't be heralded as some epic accomplishment.

I don't feel sorry for Warde.  This is the job he signed up for.  You let our best coaches leave, you'd better hire great replacements.  If you can't do that, let someone else try to.

bo_lives

February 8th, 2024 at 12:06 AM ^

Warde is a blind squirrel who had a nut fall in his lap when he *checks notes* didn’t fire the prodigal son coach with a resounding track record of success, a .700 record at Michigan, and 1 year left on his contract— during a pandemic when no obvious replacement was available. What a bold, courageous move on his part.

If there’s anything Warde has shown us he’ll do, when push comes to shove, it’s… nothing. He has taken the path of least resistance at every turn. He let the media hire Juwan Howard. He did nothing with Mel Pearson despite knowing the allegations for a whole year. He did nothing to retain Bakich. He did nothing during Signgate. And he continues to do nothing as our football coaching staff falls apart and our basketball program is a tire fire. So I agree, we shouldn’t criticize Warde for things he’s “going to do”, because he isn’t actually going to do anything, ever. And that’s the problem. 

Blue in Yarmouth

February 8th, 2024 at 9:33 AM ^

I think people defending Warde are missng most people's point here. If you have ever worked for a major corporation, you know succession planning is an integral part of it. It was no secret Harbaugh wanted to go back to the NFL after the past 3 off-seasons. Warde haad 3 season to  put a succession plan together. If he had any kind of relationship with Harbaugh he would have A) known this was coming and B) been able to plan with him the path forward. 

An example would have been Warde sitting down with Jim prior to the season and saying, "Listen Jim, we really want you back and would do anything to keep you, but we also know you want that Lombardi trophy. In case some NFL team comes and gives you an offer you can't refuse, whats that going to look like?"

If they had a good relationship, Jim would have put his cards on the table and said, "If it happens, I'm probably going to take Minter, Elston, etc etc etc." Then Warde could have said,"OK, so what should we do that would be in the best interest of the players and University?" He would have had Harbaugh to help in the planning of his succession and there very well could have been a give and take involved, had their been a good relationship between the two. 

I've been part of developing succession plans for corporations and witnessed corporations where the senior managers have good relationships with the board and CEO and where they have poor relationships. Trust me when I say it can be a very easy process when the person leaving is doing so on good terms as opposed to not. It's plain Warde and Jim weren't and it is. the single biggest reason where are where we are, whether some of you want to admit it or not. 

 

Edit: I don't know where the post went I was replying to but this wasn't it

MichiganiaMan

February 7th, 2024 at 12:49 AM ^

Fantastic Post.

I especially agree on your commentary about Herbert. Solely from a brand perspective, he was the most irreplaceable coach on staff. Even if his replacement pans out, it’s going to take time for Tress to build up the kind of brand equity that Herbert had. We couldn’t afford to lose him AND still suck at NIL. Maybe not 4 million, but no way you don’t at least pay him a salary approaching 3 mil.

And then there’s Roney. Assuming that it isn’t worth the NCAA trouble to bring back Coach Oz, there’s no way you can hold serve and risk losing him AND Elston. Now we’re one coach away from completely turning over a defensive staff that, frankly, won us the championship.

And as for the guys that have been hired, they’ve already failed those coaches from a comms perspective. Guys like Casula and JB Brown aren’t “first off the bus” hires. Those guys should come as announcement #9 and #10, not #2 and #3.  This is probably the worst transition in recent college football history, and the worst ever off-season for a defending national champion.

Robbie Moore

February 7th, 2024 at 7:00 AM ^

So true. *sigh*

The most damning indictment is Warde had a multi year dry run at the process for replacing Harbaugh while losing the bare minimum momentum. And it looks from the outside like a slow motion train wreck. Despite years to prepare for the inevitable Harbaugh departure, Warde was unprepared.

Enjoy what the last season accomplished. It’s gonna be quite a while before we’re back. I feel sorry for Sherrone. He gets the opportunity of a lifetime only to have his boss fail him.

MadGatter

February 7th, 2024 at 11:25 AM ^

Some of these losses were unavoidable. Harbaugh, Minter, Jay and to a lesser extent Elston (he wanted the DC job and it wasnt correct to give it to him). 

Losing Ben Herbert was completely unacceptable. Harbaugh paid him around 2 million to steal him and Michigan wouldn't match. The other coaches left for promotions or less work but Herbert left for money. That is unacceptable given the level that the program itself built him up to be. He is worth 2 million dollars according to how Michigan has used him as the symbol of their program. Sure, maybe a strength coach isn't actually worth that much but when you consider the NIL discount you get from recruits/players that buy into the Herbert propaganda and the ability to keep guys on the roster, he is most definitely worth the 2 million. Michigan has lost at least one five star (Gatlin Bair) who more than likely would have committed to playing here had Herbert been the strength coach. How much is a 5 star receiver worth these days and especially at Michigan where we have none already? High six figures I bet!

Warde failing to see the broader picture that is fucking crazy to me. And he even has leftover money to spend from Harbaugh's contract! Where is that momey going if not to Ben Herbert? 

Fire this fucking buffoon into the sun and get someone who will actually do their job.

RobM_24

February 7th, 2024 at 12:56 AM ^

In regards to Sherrone and his staff, who is driving the bus to search for external candidates? What's the involvement of the AD there? I know you mentioned contingencies as an AD/admin for head coaching moves, but is the staff completely up to Sherrone? Do Warde and his staff compile candidates to assist Sherrone? Do they use a third party firm?

I ask this, because no names mentioned so far seem aggressive at all. They half-heartedly went after a ND recruiting guy who none of us had heard of, they made in house hires (how many of us knew who JB Brown was?), and they're kicking around the names of some low-level NFL lifers. When Deboer got to Alabama, they started picking off HEAD coaches from other programs to be assistants. It's just crazy to compare and contrast the two processes. 

MrWoodson

February 7th, 2024 at 6:06 AM ^

This all should have been thought out months ago. Even Sherrone should have had a list of 10 guys at each position he would want to go after as assistants in his desk drawer. He knew he was on the very short list for the UM job if Jim left and he also knew he would probably get a HC job somewhere else soon if Jim stayed. I am giving him a pass because it's his first rodeo as a HC and he's young, but that is why Warde needed to be double prepared to assist Sherrone. He should have been meeting with Sherrone regularly over the past few months to help him prepare for this contingency and he should have opened the checkbook a bit wider to keep critical guys like Herbert and Elston

This transition has been a failure on so many levels is hard to process. What have all these people been doing the past 6-12 months? Isn't there anyone at all in the athletic department competent enough to see this slow motion trainwreck coming and capable of steering Warde in the right direction? What about Ono? And the regents? And HR? Communications/PR? Did absolutely no one see how unprepared Michigan was for this? Jim Harbaugh nearly left three other times. How in the world could we be so unprepared and absolutely no one notice?

1VaBlue1

February 7th, 2024 at 7:23 AM ^

Both Warde and Harbaugh should have had Sherrone, Jesse, Mike, and Jay ready to go with a list of candidate staff and/or replacement names.  Especially Moore - did nobody actually prepare him for being a head coach candidate/new hire?  That is mostly on Harbaugh for succession planning reasons and to help him grow into a larger role as a HC.  But Warde should have made sure it was done.

Total failure by the Ath Dept all the way around...

bringthewood

February 7th, 2024 at 6:50 PM ^

Agree. In sales we were always interviewing and networking even if we didn’t have an open position.
I would say as a football season ticket holder and occasional hockey and basketball ticket buyer the fan experience is lacking. Especially when I see the lower bowl in basketball mostly empty while the upper bowl is more full. I believe Brian and others had a number of solutions that would make the fan and player experience better for basketball. I sent those suggestions in a polite way to Warde and got crickets. At least Brandon would respond, even to say get off my lawn. 
 

Warde is like that guy giving a PowerPoint presentation who always seems surprised by what is on the next slide.

Sione For Prez

February 7th, 2024 at 9:53 AM ^

RE: Sherrone having a list of 10 guys at each position. It's entirely possible he did have those lists put together. Unfortunately, due to the timing of the NFL hiring schedule and the timing of our openings, a lot of guys may have already taken new jobs or made the decision to stay in their current situation. 

I'm really looking forward to future years when we can make our coaching decisions during "normal" CFB coaching cycles. 

Shorty the Bea…

February 7th, 2024 at 1:18 AM ^

Honestly, I thought Washington was the most screwed I ever saw post championship game with their entire coaching staff gutted, roster transfered out, and already post hiring season and transfer portal opening. They have done a magnificent job filling their coaching vacancies quickly and competently and adding effective transfers to stop the bleeding as soon as possible.

And now there's Michigan, slowly losing their championship winning head coach like the department was hibernating as Harbaugh slow-walked to the NFL. The AD hired the appropriate guy quickly (+1) and then did not having ANY idea what comes next for anyone else nor has he shown any plan on how to support his new coach nor where to expect the need to fill impending vacancies. It is not Washington but Michigan who is sleep walking on every move.

Hiring Moore is beginning to look like the AD never anticipated that many coaches would leave or that many would simply view staying as a lateral move at best coming off a resume-building championship coaching performance where they need to cash in on their progress with an actual promotion somewhere in the sport. You can stay when your champ winning coach stays - but it's a lot harder to justify when some underling gets the new job and you simply retain your old post. People wonder why you didn't get a promotion as well.

Moore feels stuck with his pants down and the department has shown no plan or ability to act fast to help him close these ranks while Washington has clearly worked a plan every day which shows their progress.

This diary post and simple observation and deducement make it clear Warde sux...

And that Gene Smith really was that good as the one constant at Ohio and largely responsible for their incredible run of success.

JonathanE

February 7th, 2024 at 1:54 AM ^

I really dislike the fact that I have to write responses defending Warde. To be honest, he has never really impressed me, but the Fire Warde pitchfork group also has some unrealistic expectations. 

Herbert: Has it been a year since he signed his last contract making him the highest paid S&C coach in America? Harbaugh wanted him and made him an unrealistic offer and Herbert dropped his demands in the University's lap. Pay me this or I walk. What is even the point of a contract if Herbert can break it for a similar position in the NFL? 

I keep reading how Warde should have ponied up and just spent the money. I'm curious if the OP would answer this, would giving Herbert a new monster contract have affected the market price for the other S&C coaches on campus? People can talk about the money the University saved in hiring Moore but one of the things Moore talked about at his presser was how he wanted to beef up the recruiting office. For 2023, the AD only made a $4 million profit, so it's not like there is a ton of money to simply be throwing around.  

Elston: Since we do not have a new DC at this writing, what are the dynamics of a new DC and what that person wants or who they want for a D-Line coach? Was Elston wanting more than to simply be a D-Line coach? I'll ask the same questions of Clink since you mentioned him. 

The huge difference between the Moore and Fisch or DeBoer is that they were established coaches and could bring long time assistants with them. Moore is a first-time head coach, fighting for Jim Harbaugh hired coaches. 

If they fire Warde, so be it, but a lot of this stuff any AD would have had problems with, and we would probably be standing exactly in the same spot. 

DennisFranklinDaMan

February 7th, 2024 at 8:02 AM ^

"Excuses"? I love how everyone is convinced Michigan is going to plummet to the bottom (i.e., "stinks", even though we're less than 40 days from winning a national championship.

How in the world was Warde supposed to "prepare" for coaches leaving? He wasn't even sure Harbaugh was going to leave -- we've been through this before, after all -- let alone which coaches would go with him. Should he have interviewed potential hires before there were openings? "No," people say, "but he should have had a list." Without consulting with his new head coach? Or ... he should have said "hey, Sherrone, if Harbaugh leaves, and you become head coach, can you put together a list of potential replacements for every single assistant coach on the team, since we don't know who's leaving?" Besides, how do we do know he didn't do that?

Damn. Bill O'Brien came to OSU and left something like 24 hours later, but nobody here is ripping on the OSU athletic director for incompetence. Is it possible shit like this is happening, these days, especially to winning programs?

No, no. Everything is Warde's fault. Got it.

UMForLife

February 7th, 2024 at 8:48 AM ^

Well, if I hear that one of my executives is interviewing for other jobs, I wouldn't sit pat and have no plan. I would be putting out my own feelers for the dominoes effect of a key, well liked person leaving. When someone like that leaves, there will be others who will be looking as well. It just happens everyday in the business world. Harbaugh has been interviewing for three years. In business world, that is a lot of time. UM with its millions of dollars in Football program is not run like a business and it is obvious. And the situation squarely falls on the person on the top.

JonathanE

February 7th, 2024 at 6:23 PM ^

I'm sorry that I am so slow and dense, since you have this clarity, please help me out. The "OP addressed and answered at the start of the thread."

My question, "...I'm curious if the OP would answer this, would giving Herbert a new monster contract have affected the market price for the other S&C coaches on campus? People can talk about the money the University saved in hiring Moore but one of the things Moore talked about at his presser was how he wanted to beef up the recruiting office..."

Was the answer in his CV, which begins around the 6th paragraph (which is pretty impressive I would say)? Was the answer in his C+/B- grade assessment?  Maybe it was in his Warde needing to be prepared portion? 

Here is what I took, "Bakich's value to Michigan, a northern school in the B1G, with no prestigious history in baseball...is far greater than his value to say, Texas.

So unfortunately, this means you have to pay the man.  If he is the highest paid college baseball coach, so be it!  Get off the "principle" of things and make the best decision for your department...

Ben Herbert was the exact same thing.  Unless he just absolutely wanted to go or unless they're paying him $4M/year...Herbert should still be at Michigan."

Herbert had been rumored to be following Harbaugh to the NFL if he had an offer since December. There was a reason that Herbert didn't want to talk about his situation at Moore's hiring press conference. The writing was on the wall that Herbert was leaving. As I pointed out, Herbert was already at the top of not only the B1G but college football for salary for S&C. My question was, IF Warde had thrown the money and years which Herbert was rumored to be asking for, would that have affected the University's other S& C coaches? 

What isn't mentioned is that right away Justin Tress is promoted as the director of the S&C program, sort of like that volleyball list the OP mentioned as well as retaining Abigail O'Connor who was also rumored to have been pursued by Harbaugh. 

My next question, "Elston: Since we do not have a new DC at this writing, what are the dynamics of a new DC and what that person wants or who they want for a D-Line coach? Was Elston wanting more than to simply be a D-Line coach? I'll ask the same questions of Clink since you mentioned him."

In the second to last paragraph, [I thought it was answered at the start of the thread.] he writes,

"But this nonsense post-hiring Moore was avoidable.  It has nothing to do with "era" and everything to do with doing your job and being prepared.  THAT is why this is the last straw for me.  Michigan could've had all of this ironed out with the remaining staff in 48 hours.  It's understandable that Moore hasn't filled the vacant positions (LB coach, Minter, and JayBaugh were always gone).  You have to interview new candidates for those roles, but Herbert, Elston, (maybe Clink)...these guys were already on the team!!  There could've been a whole "Those Who Stay" social media campaign for the returning coaches (celebrating their return to Michigan), we lost the moment and the momentum."

That is not answering my question. We do not know who the new DC is. How much power does the new DC have? Is he allowed to hire any of his own people? Did Elston or does Clink want more responsibility? Do they mesh personality wise with the new DC? Those are all questions which need to be answered which are not addressed anywhere. As smart as the OP is, and I believe he is very smart, you can't put the cart before the horse. You have to have the DC signed, sealed and delivered before you start any media campaign about "Those Who Stay" and such. 

So, no I do not believe that the OP answered my questions and no, I did more than simply read the thread title and type a response. I agree and respect a lot of what the OP wrote but I also believe he is upset about some events which no AD could have done better.

Sione For Prez

February 7th, 2024 at 10:09 AM ^

Let's also not forget that in that $4M profit number includes debt service, leases and rental fees of $17.5M and Athletic Student Aid of ($32.5M). 

Now obviously we need to make debt payments and things like that but non-government entities don't include principal debt payments in the P&L when looking at profit in the traditional sense. 

Also I won't pretend to know how the university accounts for athletic scholarships but $32M is a steep number. I'm sure this number includes actual costs like housing, meals etc... but if it's also including the value of the tuition that is being given to the student athletes, then that value is likely quite inflated. 

gobluenyc

February 7th, 2024 at 3:02 AM ^

I’d imagine with JMFH flirting with the NFL every year and the NCAA nonsense this year there would be some consideration that his job would be open. You’d have to assume that the Ravens pipeline leaves with him. 

Maybe DC was discussed many times but the NFL musical chairs took them by surprise. Maybe Moore and Jim and Warde had discussions about replacing Minter if he wanted to leave. We will never know if there was some preparation, however faulty, but I’d sure like to know. 

Sonny Jim

February 7th, 2024 at 3:18 AM ^

Thanks for the informative post.  I am squarely in the “Warde must go” camp, primarily because I have no idea what he himself has ever done that’s positive for U of M.  He appears to me to be an all-too-typical middle manager who tries to minimize his own effort and responsibility while continuing to cash big paychecks.  With that written, there are a good number of reasonable voices here that jump to his defense quite regularly, so I’m never sure if I’m missing something.  This post really helped me put everything in context.

michengin87

February 7th, 2024 at 8:53 AM ^

With all due respect to Ono, this wasn't his top priority and shouldn't have been.  Yes, it's the top revenue generator and Jim Harbaugh was the highest paid public employee in the state of Michigan, but Jim had just gone to the CFP for the 2nd time with 2 Big Ten titles and the ship wasn't exactly sinking.  Meanwhile, the 2nd highest paid employee in the state of Michigan was at that other school and we know how 2023 played out for him.

Things that were sinking a year ago just a few months after his start date of Oct 2022 and were higher priorities included:

  1. The creation of an office for ethics and integrity because of the previous president and successfully finding a great person to lead it.
  2. Managing through the graduate student strike.
  3. Work to finalize the new campus housing that is underway as well as develop longer term campus plans Vision 2034 and Campus Plan 2050.
  4. Manage the University's stance on the Israel Hamas war.
  5. Update the Executive staff, including:
  • Name Laurie McCauley as Provost.
  • Replace Chief Sustainability Officer
  • New VP of Communications

Warde needs to do his job.  I would blame Schlissel before I would blame Ono.

ST3

February 7th, 2024 at 2:07 PM ^

I think they meant football is the top revenue generator in the AD, at least I hope so. Athletics is 2 cents on the dollar.

If I was Ono doing Warde’s performance evaluation, I’d start with these questions:

Is the budget balanced? Are the athletes graduating? Are the teams successful? Are we compliant with regulations?

If the answers to those questions are all yes, Ono is not firing Warde. Sorry.

Ezeh-E

February 7th, 2024 at 2:18 PM ^

If Ono was the president of Wake Forest, sure. But he's the president at Michigan. Fair or not, UM football is the most visible part of UM, followed by other sports if you're outside of Ann Arbor. UM football has had articles in the NYT and Wapo more frequently than anything else about UM, even if you cut out the Stallions shinanigans. It's super visible.

I was (and still am) on the hire Sherrone Moore was a good idea train. But with all the coaches getting poached and him being first time, having help from an AD willing to spend money is critical. Why is someone coming to work for Sherrone Moore right now? It's a risk. So pay money for the risk. We have the money. And if Moore doesn't succeed, you've at least shown other future head coaches you'll support them.

dickdastardly

February 7th, 2024 at 3:50 AM ^

Warde answers to Ono and the Regents. Could it be that Warde is just doing what he has been instructed to do by the Regents via Ono? If so, it would completely explain why we are seeing what we are seeing and why what Michigan accomplished under Harbaugh and his staff the last three years culminating with the NC this year is something to always cherish because it truly was a Michigan Miracle never to be seen again, imo

 

UNCWolverine

February 7th, 2024 at 4:25 AM ^

And you didn't even mention that he rolled over and showed Pertitties and the NCAA his belly, instead of telling them to fuck off like every other major P5 program would have. 

three_honks

February 7th, 2024 at 4:49 AM ^

Sidenote, this is why you are seeing a HUGE trend in college athletics with big time college ADs hiring sitting G5 ADs and making them their "#2."  

Excellent point.  The Michigan Athletic Department spans a huge array of sports.  But the majority of success and revenue is driven by football.

What have you done today (in football) to beat Ohio State?

Ohio State seems to be leaving Michigan behind in it's ability to compensate players (today NIL, tomorrow, perhaps directly).  Fortunately, for the time being, Ryan "Matt Millen" Day seems to be misallocating it on shiny skill position players.  But a 2025 or so reallocation for OSU is a lot easier fix than "Where's the tens of millions for Michigan that the Ohio State network is able to conjure toward it's players?"
 

mGrowOld

February 7th, 2024 at 6:20 AM ^

Do you want the job?

FYI this should get bumped to the front page.   Awesome OP, awesome.

And man do I feel vindicated for all the things I said I thought were happening (or better put, not happening) through the years with that useless tub of goo.

SlickNick

February 7th, 2024 at 6:32 AM ^

One of the most well thought out and reasonable posts I've read on here. The main point that continues to baffle me is how unprepared our athletic department is. OP confirms what I thought about Warde being a part of the old guard "Leader's and Best", "This is Michigan" types. This is the type of institutional arrogance that has infected UM and especially athletics IMO. There are still plenty or areas the University can claim to be a leader or best in their respective field but athletics (yeah I know we just won a NC) is not one of them. I don't need to go through the list, OP did a great job of that, but what is Warde currently doing for our athletic department to be leaders or best in their field? The athletic landscape has shifted and MI is standing there saying This is Michigan! Like that will line up coaches at our door when the reality is no proven staff is signing up to be mid paid/supported at a place with championship goals. Why would a proven coach sign up to work for a man who publicly wants nothing to do with NIL and the shifting landscape of CFB. Santa Ono needs to act before summer and get every resource available behind Sherrone Moore..otherwise we are looking at brady hoke 2.0 and will be in another rebuild in 4 years.

crg

February 7th, 2024 at 6:44 AM ^

Interesting commentary and much appreciated.

I'm still curious about some of the rational ecomic arguments behind the "pay whatever to keep [person X] here!" for different positions, for example justifying overpaying Bakich versus overpaying Herbert compared to what they ultimately help bring in to the AD revenue-wise.

That said... it has felt (as an outside observer) like there is mismanagement of the post-Harbaugh transition, and having this sentiment expressed by people with experience within greater college athletics is not reassuring.