Rumors surrounding Juwan's future as MBB head coach
First time creating a forum topic... don't have any links, just too much talk on Twitter right now for it to be nothing.
Anyone?
December 11th, 2023 at 2:43 PM ^
Not sure what you do for work, but next time you're at work, go slap someone and see how that works out. I get these are highly-competitive games but assaulting someone is unacceptable. Yeah, he's our coach but it's still wrong.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:01 PM ^
Let me see. There are rumors on Twitter but cannot find links to those tweets? Elon has really fucked up Twitter...sorry, X.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:02 PM ^
Never a dull moment with University of Michigan sports.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:28 PM ^
Insert *fun* for dull and still true
December 10th, 2023 at 10:07 PM ^
The rumor on the ON3 message board is that it was between Sanderson and Juwann and that it got started with Sanderson calling out Jace over missed rehab workouts.
This was from a poster who seemed to have some connection to the program.
He did not indicate there were punches thrown, but did refer to it as 'physical', which could mean a lot of things.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:11 PM ^
It’s unlikely that Juwan punched a staff member and then coached a game today. People who say “but Warde” are allowing a cartoonish dislike of Warde to interfere with their judgment. Warde has been passive at times, but not to that level, and notably not recently.
So to the question about what about Juwan, well, we need to apply the lessons of Beilein and Harbaugh, for whom retention and support in the face of message-board firing demands (I was opposed to the former and a loud pro-fire voice in the latter category) paid off handsomely.
If there’s no punch here, rumors like this are actively damaging to the program and should be regarded in a similar way to excessive rumors about the sign thing.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:15 PM ^
There seems to be smoke here though. The fake accounts gibberish aside there seems to be some legit sourcing here.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:21 PM ^
Yeah, I'm interested to find out what's happening but a lot of the messaging I've seen are just people restating the same rumors. If true obviously a fireable offense but this place just assuming Warde would let this happen without stepping in seems like wishcasting barring some additional info.
If nothing comes of this I would hope these sources would be treated with skepticism in the future but considering these are the same ones that spun a million false sign gate stories I'm not holding my breath.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:26 PM ^
Apparently Sam Webb says that there was an altercation but that as far as the administration knows it didn’t turn physical.
Trevor McCue says that some say that it did turn physical.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:39 PM ^
I posted something further up the thread. We should be careful with rumor trains like this. The smoke could easily be the result of an incident that isn’t great but isn’t Juwan cold-cocking someone either.
Edit: FWIW, I’m generally in favor of patience for on-floor stuff, and if this is not a firing event patience is needed. But I do want to say, in keeping with my response up-thread, that there are certain kinds of incidents that could be prompting the talk today that might not be fireable but also might not speak well of Juwan’s long-term ability to lead the program. But we’re looking at rumors here so I can draw no conclusions.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:13 PM ^
Can appreciate his contribution as a player and coach (the Big Ten title and near final four was fun) but it hasnt felt like anything has been building since. Think it would be best to move on at the end of the season regardless if this ends up true.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:30 PM ^
Whoa let’s pump the brakes…we’re 10 games into the season. So if they win 20+ games and make the Sweet 16…you want him gone? This after picking up a 5-star wing a week ago.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:39 PM ^
What about:
- the first 10 games
- his track record with 5-stars
- and Juwan/Phil's track record
Make you believe that 20+ wins and the Sweet 16 are happening?
December 10th, 2023 at 11:01 PM ^
I mean he has made the sweet 16 every year he’s been in the tourney 🤷🏾♂️ and averaged 20 wins a season as the head coach. But excuse me for bringing facts to the discussion. Carry on
December 10th, 2023 at 11:09 PM ^
How'd last year go?
December 10th, 2023 at 11:10 PM ^
1 bad year and he’s toast?
December 11th, 2023 at 12:28 AM ^
More like 1 good year, 2 average ones and a bad one. Making the Sweet 16 after being middling the whole season doesn't mean the team wasn't middling and worse than the year before. They were even worse last year, and look the same this year.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:18 PM ^
Rumor: Juwan did something bad.
MGoResponse: Fire Warde!
December 10th, 2023 at 10:50 PM ^
Yeah, I don't hold MGoBlog's opinionated denizens in high regard.
I remember the "Fire Beilein" thread in 2017 (where posters were advocating for Dayton's Archie Miller). LOL!
I remember the "Fire Bakich" thread.
And I remember the MANY "Fire Harbaugh" threads here in 2020. (If I could bump threads, I would.)
There are a lot of confident idiots here. And some don't seem to ever learn and then level up.
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If Juwan did something as the aggressor, then he'll be terminated. But if this rumor was overblown, then a bunch of haters look like clowns.
I'll take a wait-and-see approach on how events transpire.
December 10th, 2023 at 11:14 PM ^
Fire Beilein! was a thing. Fire Bakich! was one knucklehead poster who got ragged on right after typing that. I was there...
December 10th, 2023 at 11:51 PM ^
Fire Warde! is a thing that seems to be based on Harbaugh, as if Warde is the decider in what Harbaugh does or doesn't do, re: his future. Do people really think Warde has that much influence over whether Harbaugh goes to the NFL?
December 10th, 2023 at 11:38 PM ^
Seconded. The “fire Warde” brigade is especially lazy and tedious, especially since nobody ever produxes much actual evidence that Warde is bad at his job. M sports are in great shape for the most part. But since he isn’t a very public-facing guy, isn’t a publicity hound, they all assume he’s a moron. I wonder why.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:23 PM ^
There's still time to give Jim veto power in his new contract for when Warde calls Ed Cooley again
December 10th, 2023 at 10:27 PM ^
What are, the rumors?
December 10th, 2023 at 10:27 PM ^
I am bummed that Juwan didn’t work out but you just can’t have violence as a feature of your personality and keep a job. In any profession really, you can’t be in leadership and punch competitors/colleagues in the face.
Another coaching search incoming.. joy
December 10th, 2023 at 10:28 PM ^
Someday, we will learn some basic media literacy, but not today.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:29 PM ^
Sports journalism is a joke and twitter just makes it 10 times worse. Everyone just running with rumors is ridiculous
December 10th, 2023 at 10:29 PM ^
Ok lets say the altercation with Juwan and Sanderson are true and it happened on Friday. And let's say that its because Jace missed a session with Sanderson. Something tells me Sanderson had to do something to Jace if he wasn't with the team and Juwan was allowed to travel and still coach. It would have been real easy for the team to not let Juwan travel and attribute it to his health.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:33 PM ^
Plus most S&C coaches are the last ppl you want to pick a fight with, those dudes are crazy
December 10th, 2023 at 10:39 PM ^
But Warde is running the AD. So nothing makes sense.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:32 PM ^
Maybe he stole signs from Fran McCaffery?
December 10th, 2023 at 11:09 PM ^
If that's the case, we definitely know it wasn't Fran's defensive calls. Those don't exist.
December 10th, 2023 at 10:34 PM ^
If this is false maybe it's time to let go...of our "insiders". If true...we'll they're still on probation but it's getting late, late, for Howard and this isn't OK. Honestly, the Wisconsin staff is pure shit so fuck those guys. Today apparently was a nice road win but we all know this team isn't tournament-worthy and that isn't acceptable (2 years in a row).
December 10th, 2023 at 10:41 PM ^
FWIW...
Looks like there will be some down playing of the situation and we may never get 100 percent word from Michigan. But from everything I have been told. Jace Howard wasn't taking treatment seriously, someone got onto him, Sanderson chimed in, and Juwan confronted him and…
— MichiganNation2 (@MichiganNation2) December 11, 2023
December 10th, 2023 at 10:51 PM ^
Who is this dude?
December 10th, 2023 at 11:02 PM ^
Jalen Rose tweeted about a minute ago that Juwan did not and will not step down. Said Juwan is looking forward to returning to his position Dec. 16.
December 10th, 2023 at 11:06 PM ^
This is bullshit. Juwan had heart surgery recently, he's not punching anyone.
December 10th, 2023 at 11:17 PM ^
I think we've all been suckered by a Jom Bomb. Which makes it a pretty successful Jom Bomb, I guess.
December 11th, 2023 at 1:16 AM ^
Some days you just can't get rid of a Jom Bomb.
December 10th, 2023 at 11:17 PM ^
This post SUCKS!!!
December 11th, 2023 at 12:31 AM ^
If the rumor about an altercation with a staffer is true, can we please fire him this time? Or is this total bullshit from insiders with a binder on OSU?
December 11th, 2023 at 12:44 AM ^
First I've seen of anything reported from a 'university official'.
December 11th, 2023 at 2:23 AM ^
Quinn is a doom troll, only reports on Michigan when there's bad news.
December 11th, 2023 at 1:46 AM ^
Hmmm. This is al real weird
December 11th, 2023 at 2:15 AM ^
Petitti will probably suspend Harbaugh for the semifinal because of this. But not until the team plane leaves for LA.
At any rate, it can't be as simple as the rumors out there. Howard would gone then. I just don't think he could punch an assistant and that would be OK. Even with Warde.
December 11th, 2023 at 3:01 AM ^
If this is remotely true, it’s time to find a new coach. At least they’ll have a long time to find a new one.