Ohio State: Investigation finds massage therapist targeted football players for sex
Those poor innocent buckeyes getting preyed upon by the evil masseuse lol
The Ohio State University released reports and public records on Thursday regarding the investigation into the allegations
This is what Arrowhead would have posted below had s/he been sober.
Spot on. This is the sober version of it. Keystone lights will mess you up.
You have to drink, what, about 40 gallons of Keystone to even get slightly impaired AND still take a Valium about halfway through, right?
Brings back memories of 3.2% PBRs when I was in high school in Akron, OH. When input=output with balanced flow, you were finally there. Does OH still do the 3.2 beer thing?
Can confirm.
$500 handshakes and female 5 knuckle shuffles.
^^^ Let's see their marching band spell this on the field.
Pretty sure they like how she dots the eye better than the band in every pole she's ever conducted.
Did Bo know about this too?
After the garbage all this week, and the mystery of the "disappearing podcast" today - loved this...
+1 to offset the negging...
I'm so glad you mentioned the podcast. I woke up half awake and saw it and when I returned to listen it disappeared. I thought I was in the Twilight Zone.
If you're talking about the same podcast I'm thinking Seth took it down. He tweeted that there was a comment made that was to the effect of "there's no way to be sure of what Bo knew" and to quote the tweet "there wasn't enough pushback". Sadly, I don't know how embed tweets. I only started my Twitter in December. I've tried watching a tutorial on here and all I get is an error message.
To be exact. It was Ace who made the request to remove it (yea, I know, surprised, right?)
Apparently Ace felt that Craig Ross was somewhat defending the Bo side of the story on the podcast, and the others (Brian, Seth, etc) didn’t do enough to push back on Craig. Ace claims to be a victim of abuse in the past (a claim of which I’m NOT refuting) so the overall podcast didn’t sit well with him. Hence why he got it removed.
I am listening to the pod now. With respect to Ace, I disagree with the take that Craig Ross was defending Bo. He was using his experience as a lawyer to say that it is very difficult to know precisely what was said or what was known 40 years ago. He even used an example of a recent case he had. This is not a defense of Bo, but rather an outcome of his own experience. My father was a lawyer, and he also was very careful about being sure both sides were heard. While I am not a lawyer, I think this just happens in a profession where you have to know precisely what you can prove and what is more hearsay.
My problem with taking down the podcast is that the process that we are currently going through reminds me in a way of surgery. It sucks, and it hurts, and it's unpleasant for the patient. But it has to be done. Craig was bringing up points and backing them up. You can disagree with them, you can think he is a jerk for them. But we should all listen to them at the very least to know where everybody today stands. By taking down the podcast you end up chilling conversation. And instead of chilling conversation, we need to be hyper transparent so that we can lance the boil.
What happened was abhorrent. We need to be honest about it, expose exactly what we know and what we don't, and to the best of our ability to hold everyone accountable to the extent that we can. (Most of the actors are dead, so that accountability is going to be lessened for a variety of reasons). I love the idea of no longer naming things or building statues but including an all encompassing history acknowledging our triumphs but also our failures.
Further, and as I discuss this this is becoming my Carthago delenda est, we need to make sure that our current structures are such that this in no way can happen now. Or that if it does, it's caught very quickly and dealt with very openly. We cannot fix the past, only hang our head and admit to our failures and help the victims as best we can. But we should use that as a lever to make sure that this cannot happen again.
I agree with you. I was quite surprised it got removed for the reasons discussed, even when considering the wide reach influence Ace has over this site. Like you, I thought Craig's approach was acceptable and I did not think we was defending Bo.
Overall, this is going to be a sore subject for a lot of people, especially Michigan fans and its going to take some time to process the information and come to an equilibrium. Until then, there's going to be some interesting takes and associated reactions to it. But, like you, I don't think removing the podcast was the best idea in that regard.
"...even when considering the wide reach influence Ace has over this site."
This is everything.
That was one of the most civil discussions about a very difficult topic with varying viewpoints that I've heard in a long time. Hell, the argument over the 2007 team "what ifs" was more heated and ESPN-talking-head-like than the Anderson report.
Removing that podcast based on any opinion stated therein is absurd. It never ceases to amaze me some of the proponents of certain topics want everyone else to be open to new ways of thinking but they themselves don't accept any opinion but their own.
I've taken down the podcast from our feed. I wish I had pushed back harder on Craig re: "40-year-old truths" and Bo. As I said this morning, it's important to listen to survivors, especially when it's not what you want to hear. https://t.co/xZx32ycFMy
— Seth M. Fisher (@Misopogon) May 13, 2021
Who downvotes Seth?
Sorry to see another -ism that can be hurled at something to prohibit discussion
Need to see what she looks like before I give a opinion......
Don't ask how I know this but I have a source who sent me a photo of her
Here is the pic....
I'd still do it. I know that's gross
I’m trying to figure out which one you are replying to.
So how are free massages and free sex not impermissible benefits, yet cream cheese on a bagel is an impermissible benefit?
It's OK if you combine the two....
Was not their last five(?) conference championships not enough of a happy ending to their season?
Hey, we like the happy ending to the massage almost as much as the happy ending when we play you....
No harm no foul.
She’s running a bit cra cra though.
She comes highly recommended from Robert Kraft and Les Miles.
Gene Smith will turn a scandal into a Happy Ending!!
Now that she is gone, OSU recruiting will take a blow.
Meaning she is moving on to recruits?
The article says she was given a job within the OSU AD.
Well that is different for her..... she is getting a "job" instead of giving a "job"....lol
The subtle difference between given and givin' lol
She will be teaching leadership classes at OSU in the fall.
Urban's TA (Yes, he's still employed.)
In a report I read it stated that her target "customer" on the OSU football team was aged 18 to early 20's...so pretty much everyone.
Happy Endings >>>> Happy Meals.
Downvote for "The"
So is it standard for a University police organization to turn over investigations to law firms instead of the local police departments?
Probably depends slightly on whether or not there is believed to have been crimes committed or not. I doubt local police would take much interest in investigations where no crimes have been committed.
FWIW the Anderson was investigated by the cops but once they figured out there was no one to charge they couldn’t really do much else. Plus, a lot of the stuff universities need to look into aren’t crimes
Breaking News: Several OSU players are out for a few weeks due to excessive high-fiving.
Ok, stole that from an old SNL.
Was it Norm MacDonald? That definitely sounds like a Norm MacDonald news story. He was by far my favorite SNL news anchor.
yep, pretty sure he delivered that line on his weekend update.
Just horrible for these young men. Being preyed on like that. . .
What does the ref signal for sex targeting?
A fist to the groin?
I bet it will result in less missed playing time than regular targeting
The ol' "Giving him the business"