Will Sign-gate impact the draft stock of Wolverine players? Of course not.
It’s obvious that Michigan won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP because Jim Harbaugh developed and molded this group of players into one of the best draft classes of all time! (Not that we really needed any evidence that the uproar over the Conner Stalions was BS). Best of luck to the Champions Thursday, Friday and Saturday!
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Amazing how ESPN and everyone else has dropped this once Harbaugh left for the NFL. It's almost like there was an agenda there.
except for 11w
what 11w is doing is making bank by pandering to their readers
While clicks do make them money it's the fans that are obsessed, the writers haven't reported anything for months...They have 120+ threads in the forum with 300 and sometimes more comments before starting a new thread.
If this is not the definition of obsession, I'm not sure what is....
We should just begin referring to them as BlueAnon.
It’s pathetic, really, but it’s the only thing they have to grasp at that prevents them from having to assign blame to their coaching staff and players for their back to back to back losses to Michigan.
Calling 11W devotees "readers" is an insult to literacy.
In the future I will use more appropriate names for them like $uckeyes, mouth breathers or knuckle draggers?
I'm sure there are many more if anyone wants to add to the list.
Some chatter on RCMB also but not nearly as much or as loud
Its true.
Harbaugh plus Michigan = horrible scandal of the century, unforgivable, stained for eternity.
"Oh you are leaving for the Chargers? Oh great news coach. Yeah he will do well with the Chargers"
Wait just a second how the fuck does a coach come out "Andy MF Dufresne clean" on the other end of that shit storm? Thad nailed it - agenda. No calling for the Chargers hiring a cheater, no pressers with blood thirsty press asking for a GM or owners head after making such an outlandish hire. Buncha bullshit. Even you OSU slappies have to wonder WTF where is the "he is a cheater" press? Where did they go?
Oh FFS delete this nonsense
Did you have a 3 martini lunch? That’s the only way I can figure you typing up this post, thinking “yep, this is what the world needs”, and pressing Submit
A Roman walks in to a bar and says “I’ll have a martinus.”
The bartender says “you mean a martini?”
The Roman replies “no, if I wanted a double I would have asked for one.”
Biscotto / Biscotti also works
No good story starts with let’s go have a Biscotti
was about to spend money on making a new account to upvote this a second time and then I realized you used a singular article, so you'll have to make do with just one vote
And we are still waiting for Michigan to expose who has behind the PI Firm. Either all of the insiders were full of shit or the university/Warde doesn't want to do anything.
I think the latter is the case. It’s not really a question of whether or not a PI firm was involved-the NCAA admitted that. Michigan (and likely others in the B1G) wanted this to go away which is why certain deals were cut. At some point a book or 3 will come out about this past season and we can sus out the info then.
A deal? You mean as in a certain AD being named CPF chair?
And we are still waiting for Michigan to expose who has behind the PI Firm.
we're really not.
Why not? The insiders made a big deal and I would like to see some details revealed on PI firm and Catapult. Either they were wrong and should be acknowledged, or program/programs behind all of this should be exposed.
none of any of that would make a difference to how we are / were perceived, and none of the "programs behind all of this" would be affected in any way, materially or otherwise.
we won, and they can all suck it. let's move on.
I would like to know who provided the info - and who in the ncaa received it.
I want to know who came up with the scheme.
I know that success/living well is the best revenge. But what they (Pi firm/OSU/whoever it was) tried to do to us is not something we should just "move on from".
In this case, the title said everything!
Will we take the OP seriously? Of course not.
And somehow it still managed to say nothing at al
The draft class may be the broadest of all time. We'll see if we get 16. And if you added some reasonable measure of player development, it would blow away all others.
Something like (without getting too nerdy):
Sum (min(500, Max(HighSchoolRanki - DraftSelectionNumberi, 0))
That's something to be celebrated no matter what.
Only in the minds of some delusional anti Michigan fans.
I think this is a fair discussion and further evidence that sign gate was total BS. Literally, no one is talking about draft stocks falling for any of M players - other than normal performance related issues.
Still, to do this day, I am shocked by the level of absurdity the conversation around sign gate reached. (Which, I believe I am correct, but there has still not even been any Notice of Allegations tied to this issue?). When it all "officially" wraps up, I hope M folks are keeping reciepts and have a coordinated response ready (I know they wont, but one can wish...)
Correct, no NOA on signs. NOA received in December was related to burger incident.
Is there any tea leaves to read there? I remember when this whole charade came out, everyone talking about how an NOA would be imminent. Is it reasonable that the fact that we don't have one suggests the NCAA thinks there may not be anything there?
There still will probably be some form of fallout and NOA... likelya year or two from now and the effects will be minimal, if any. It was mostly a PR slander campaign anyway.
Maybe if we tell them Bill Self ok'd it?
HERE'S WHAT *I* THINK!
It was always quite a leap to think there was anything to the allegations at all.
From there, it was a greater leap to think the coaches were directly involved, despite the cowardly stance by the Big 10.
It was an enormous leap to think the players had any involvement whatsoever, which to my knowledge nobody ever suggested.
Finally, it's a galactic leap to think NFL teams give any thought at all to the subject, which they don't for all the reasons above.
So, I guess my answer is "no."
Sign gate was only ever about 1 thing. Get rid of Harbaugh. Warde was at least OK with that, Harbaugh is gone, Warde got promoted to the chief poobah of the tournament, and sign gate will never be talked of again.
You mean Chief Yes-Man.
This is a bad post and you should feel bad.
Well, OP is getting negged and it probably wasn't OP worthy. But personally I like to recall just how grotesque the takes were in the late fall of 2023 so that I can make sure to look down on certain content creators and rival schools with utter disgust.
What the OP mentions was, in fact, an actual belief peddled by some losers in the media and on the Internet.
Never forget.
I haven't forgotten and I don't need (or want) to be reminded.
There was an actual belief that THE SUN traveled west to east during the Solar eclipse too 🤣
This thread is a great example of good topic with bad execution. Had the OP framed it as something like "If Signgate is real, wouldnt that suggest Michigan players will be devalued by NFL scouts in the upcoming draft?" Then they could literally post each of the players expected to be drafted, the rounds they are projected to go and ask the board the over/under on the players. Someone did a post similar to this recently that was pretty good IMO.
I'm actually not downvoting the OP (you guys seem to have that handled nicely) because I actually think his topic was a valid one unlike a lot of the shit posts we've seen around this subject. He just fucked up the execution of it.
Did you just ask a question then answer it all in the title ?
When is the next flight to Bolivia?
obvious a dose of sarcasm here in the original OP. Nobody in the NFL cared a bit about burger-gate nor sign-gate. JH got us a long-awaited NC, 15-0. Plus a QB likely to go into Top 5 now. He's getting 80MM/5 yrs, got to interview and decide who his boss was going to be at LAC. Plus, he got to live like hero Jim Rockford by the beach in an RV. Glad for him and glad for Sherrone.
It's clear the NCAA is waiting for a boring Friday afternoon in June to "close" these BS investigations with only a show-cause for JH (he's done with CFB anyway). I've learned that companies and governments like to announce "closure" on things like this on a Friday afternoon so it is out of the news cycle by Monday.
A show-cause? Really? Urban Meyer didn’t get a show-cause for covering up domestic violence allegations.
Ahhhh... Not so fast, my friend. There’s a rumor that the NCAA’s assessment of the Alleged Advanced Scouting activities - has already been provided to the NFL - and, there is a secret clause in Harbaugh’s contract with San Diego which reflects the severity, recommended penalty, and duration.
As I mentioned - it’s a private, secret clause. Fortunately, I have sources that are knowledgeable about this and they shared this information. The clause states - “As a result of unproven allegations, where it remains unclear whether an actual NCAA rule or guideline was violated / broken - Jim Harbaugh must reside in a temporary location / home - similar to Jim Rockford in “The Rockford Files” - for as long as he wishes to do so.”