NCAA Translation Help
The other threads are already getting too busy and I'd like to understand the punchline better. What does this mean:
The participating individuals also agreed to one-year show-cause orders consistent with the Level II-Standard and Level II-Mitigated classifications of their respective violations.
This is the penalty for the still on staff individuals, whose identities have yet to be revealed. School gets fine and a probation, which is a whatever.
I'm most curious as to who all the individuals are...
The ones who served suspensions last year are highly likely to be on that list, so it likely includes Coach Moore. I bet Weiss is the non-cooperator.
If i recall correctly, there was a violation related to analysts performing what the NCAA considered to be coaching.
April 17th, 2024 at 12:21 PM ^
I think coach Oz was working with the dline.
I hope Michigan pays the fine in pennies dumped on the NCAA doorstep.
EDIT: Also, mix in a bunch of Canadian pennies.
Even better, pre-decimalized British currency. I would love to see them figure out a fine that came out to, for example - 100 pounds, 10 shillings and elevenpence.
a dozen pence to a shilling was a great system. combining that with 20 shillings to a pound is where the nonsense was
Here's a lengthy and interesting rebuttal.
TLDR: Coinage that has a denominator of 240 provides many more useful varieties of change.
Long but good. Thinking and googling about it, 240 is the second highly composite number that is divisible by 16, 2^4, so it has an advantage over other highly composite numbers (the first is 48, which is way too small). Id have preferred 144 but 240 is an excellent choice
April 16th, 2024 at 10:15 PM ^
Not to mention four farthings in a penny and 21 shillings in a guinea.
Blimey!
Monopoly money.
With Warde? Nah, he’ll be on his knees with a notary. So glad Michigan chose Warde over the best football coach we’ve ever had. Only at michigan
According to Rittenberg on twitter: ""no further game restrictions will be served by anyone who is still on the U-M staff." So the school at a one-year show cause for guys who are in the NFL this year anyway because that's a meaningless penalty.
NCAA: You can't coach here for a YEAR!!
Harbaugh/Minter, et al.: Don't threaten me with a good time...
Then this is very poorly written by the NCAA, which I guess is good. The way its written insinuates some still on staff personnel also have a show cause and I thought show causes were not very easy to overcome. In other words, I read this as there could be one-year suspension of on staff coaches.
Warde was quoted as saying the football program can now move on. It would seem there would not be serious penalty if that was the case.
How? Read the very first line again:
"Michigan and five individuals who currently or previously worked for its football program..."
Show causes are not easy to overcome for guys trying to find a new job. For whoever it is that got one on the current staff its not an issue until he tries to find another job (and everyone on the staff is already locked in to the 2024 football season so its entirely moot).
Also looking ahead, that means whoever it is that got it now will probably be around for 2025. Assuming the show cause is for 365 calendar days that leaves the end of the sentence much past the coaching carousel after the season.
So it’s a moo point?
It's like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter. It's moo.
I have wondered about this...I know that the show cause is a big deal if a school wants to hire someone. But, apparently it's pretty much meaningless if you are and stay employed with the same school when the show cause happens?
FSU got hit with NIL payments which resulted amongst other things a show cause for one of their coaches yet he still works at FSU...for whatever that means.
I mean a recruiting analyst wouldn't necessarily serve a game day suspension. They could still be suspended.
"Blah blah blah...pay us more money....blah blah blah...we're gonna hide behind a shroud of protecting student athletes...BS BS BS..."
It's been a while since I had to translate, but that's pretty close.
Michigan Wolverines… 2023 National Championships
If you're in need of a translator, I may know of someone who's looking for work
I agree that anyone who needs a translator shouldn't gamble on who they hire. Don't risk it; the odds are not in your favor. Just hire Ippei Mizuhara.
That, my friends, is the Mgoblog difference right there.
Translation:
Bet
It's not just on staff - read the first line again:
"Michigan and five individuals who currently or previously worked for its football program..."
Right, but it does mean that, of the five individuals, there are some who are still on staff who get a show cause. It seems that more details are coming out that this really doesn't mean anything, which is all I was trying to understand,
Yeah good call. I'm not super knowledgeable of who was on both the 2020 and 2024 staffs??
Should be a very easy process of deduction, yeah?
"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too." -- Mitch Hedberg
I'm not sure which is harder to understand, English or NCAAese
At least there is google translate for English.
Translation: It sounds worse than it is. We're acknowledging we've reached a decision that was already negotiated and the existing punishments remain in place.The actual case won't be fully explained until Harbaugh chooses to acknowledge his responsibility in the matter.
The NCAA is now on record punishing the program for Covid-related practice and tryout violations and whatever they allege our coach did. Michigan is cooperating as an institution because that's what it does. It will acknowledge wrongdoing pay a fine, absorb recruiting restrictions and let it go.
Harbaugh is on his own legal ledge along with his lone wolf Jim Rockford show of indignity. He speaks for himself.
The NCAA gets to wash its hands of a case that no one other than it wanted to make an issue of in a last grand gesture before it goes away as some kind of recruiting overseer with any real authority.
NCAA wanted Harbaugh period. He won on the field, where it matters. Charlie Baker confirmed that we won fair and square (no vacating anything). NCAA will slam JH with some kind of "show-cause hell" that will never mean anything. He's done with CFB and will outlive the NCAA. We got great memories, title gear, forced Nick into retirement, got to celebrate FB's 2nd biggest title (behind only Lombardi trophy), etc.
PS - loved Rockford Files even as a HS student in Livonia in the late 70s. Two GREAT James (Garner and Harbaugh).
So do we not care about the scholarships because NIL make them moot?
presumably yes. but i can't help but notice in the hoops domain, we seem not to be able to fund enough NIL, no idea on football. but probably moot.
So what does probation and recruiting restrictions entail?
Also, don't forget the probation.
NCAA: "OK, that's settled. Now on to Connor Stallions. Since you should have been on probation, which we've made retroactive to the time Coach Harbaugh bought the cheeseburgers, when this most egregious violation took place (think of the safety of the players!), the penalty for signgate is DEATH!"
I have no idea what’s going on from this post. Can someone sum up what’s happened?
It was summed up pretty well above by GoWings2008:
"Blah blah blah...pay us more money....blah blah blah...we're gonna hide behind a shroud of protecting student athletes...BS BS BS..."
So this is why we aren’t getting any commitments in recruiting… Scholarship limits 😏
I got your translation for the NCAA right here.
“ We impose this penalty on Michigan to demonstrate we still mean business here at the NCAA and because Michigan was the only big name school willing to go along with us. In addition to the cited punishments and probations, Michigan will send us a video of their administration writing our motto 500 times on a chalkboard:
‘ We get our cut of the money pie before the universities and especially the athletes ‘ “
May the NCAA soon find out what particular circle of hell they will be bound for.
BTW: didn't traitor/squealing rat Dudek get dumped by MSU (NT-MSU) a year ago. Never hire a snake. You'll get bit in the balls.