Wisconsin Snowflakes - The Coaching
September 21st, 2019 at 5:28 PM ^
We were ahead multiple scores against OSU in both 2016 and 2017 and the defense folded both times.
September 22nd, 2019 at 1:33 AM ^
This is spot on! The defense has been consistently folding late in close games.
September 21st, 2019 at 4:03 PM ^
Don Brown usually produces at top 5 unit.
Brown is so fucking overrated on here.
September 21st, 2019 at 4:15 PM ^
Yeah here and on S&P.
September 21st, 2019 at 4:54 PM ^
Brown inherited a defensive line that was two deep in NFL talent. Not hard to build around that. These are his and Harbaugh guys and we do not have the personnel to be a top defense. And that is at the feet of DB and JH.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:01 PM ^
They ended up 9th last year with two nfl first round picks. He’s not amazing. Get off it.
September 21st, 2019 at 11:43 PM ^
SP is overrated on this blog. Or maybe Michigan is overrated on SP. Idk. Because I watch us, and then I watch other teams who we outrank in SP, and they just look better. More organized, better coached...they have identity.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:44 PM ^
3 man front on the goal line with left guard uncovered.
There are no words.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:54 PM ^
This x 100
September 21st, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^
Yep. It's one thing when your kids get outplayed or don't execute. Sure you can point to coaching, but these things happen sometimes. But when as a coach you make such blatant bad decisions as that, that's unexcuseable. You are paid millions to put the kids in a position to win and you failed. And I've seen it too many times over the years. I really question our coaches intelligence and wondering if they are just going with what they know instead of adapting to circumstances.
September 21st, 2019 at 4:23 PM ^
reminds me of the GERG defense against wisky and osu.
September 21st, 2019 at 5:33 PM ^
Exactly. A 3 man front will never cut it against Wisconsin. It doesn't matter if it's goal line or not. It just doesn't work against what they want to do.
September 22nd, 2019 at 7:35 AM ^
You forgot the part about the 200 lb LB being on the Line in goal line/short yardage.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^
Having Glascow line up with his hand in the dirt numerous times is a fireable offense.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^
Who are we?
Why are we here?
September 21st, 2019 at 4:01 PM ^
Good question, Admiral.
September 21st, 2019 at 5:01 PM ^
Those are questions lil sebastian never had to ask, because he wasn't a Michigan fan
September 21st, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^
Ive lost faith in JH...year 5 NO RESULTS...time for a change
September 21st, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^
Realistic expectation for the rest of the year? Losses at Penn State, home to ND, at Indiana, home to OSU, possibly our bowl game (tradition at this point.) 8-5 or 7-6.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:49 PM ^
Don’t forget Sparty. 6-6. Meineke oil change bowl
September 21st, 2019 at 3:57 PM ^
To do that, we'll have to beat Iowa, MSU, and Maryland (on the road) in addition to Illinois and Rutgers. This team will need to improve a lot on both sides of the ball to pull that off.
The season isn't over yet. I was in the stands for the Cuse game in 1998, which was like this but even worse because it was at home. The defense turned it around starting with the next game, the offense eventually started to click, and we ended up 10-3 after starting 0-2. That said, the start of this season also looks a lot like 2014, when we sucked against ND and kept on suckin' all year.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^
I don't see a loss to Indiana. But probably one between MSU and Maryland.
September 21st, 2019 at 5:18 PM ^
No way this team loses to Indiana. They're bad, but they still beat other bad teams.
September 22nd, 2019 at 4:40 AM ^
UM will be lucky to be bowl eligible. Ramifications of this season will set UM back for years to come. Like Braylon or not , the man was right. This program is going nowhere under this coaching staff.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^
We've played so bad this year, it feels like we are 0-3.
It's over. It's going to get ugly.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:45 PM ^
We didn’t quit like we did vs OSU and Florida. That’s all I got.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^
This is true and important. This team can get a lot better, obviously. Hoping today makes the staff see that their BS excuses for poor play in the first two games (Shea is hurt, Runyon is out, DPJ is out) are just that and it forces Gattis to actually use the talent he does have.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:52 PM ^
You make it sound like Gattis is holding something back. I think it’s much simpler—he’s just clueless and in over his head.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
How are the so unprepared to play Wisconsin after a bye week ? Nothing creative on offense, out of position on defense and no intensity.
There are no more excuses.
September 21st, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^
I didn't see anything unusual out of Wisconsin. Seems like the same stuff they run every year. Able to execute the slants better than in past years, but it's not like that wasn't part of their offense before.
If DB looked at the film and decided that everything would be fine and he didn't need to install anything special on defense, then that's a mistake, and arguably a mistake that he made vs. OSU last year.
On the other hand, if the DL is just that bad (which I think may be the case), then it's kind of hard to fault the defensive coordinator for this result. Wisconsin is one of the last two or three teams in college football you want to face if your DL is a weakness. And if that's the case, then arguably OSU is the only team left on the schedule where you'd expect to get exposed like today.
September 21st, 2019 at 4:43 PM ^
The Dline may be that bad, but that also is on the coaches. They misrecruited and got burned for it. If your DL is that weak, then crowd the line and make them throw over the top. At least make them do something they don't want to. I have lost confidence that Harbaugh can turn it around. He is not the same guy he was in the first two years.
September 21st, 2019 at 5:10 PM ^
Honest question: is it possible losing Mattison hurt our DL more than is immediately obvious? He may have also had a hand in tactically, so stuff like goalline gets set up properly.
September 21st, 2019 at 8:50 PM ^
Having a shitty interior line replaced with an even shittier interior line hurt our DL. Anyone who thought this line wasn’t goIng to be somewhere between terrible and OK (and that’s a lot of people on here) were total homers.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:23 PM ^
I didn't even think Wisconsin looked good either. We just turned it over and our lines/qb play were horrible.
September 22nd, 2019 at 4:52 AM ^
Michigan has a way to make average teams and second team players look really good. Wisconsin is above average though.This years team look so discombobulated it is really laughable, that is 100% on this coaching staff. Sadly this staff will be around for the foreseeable future.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
Not sure if this thread is a good idea
September 21st, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
Ass, pure ass. I am done. It’s time to move in another direction.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
Please let’s not hear or read “Who will M get then?”
That is a dumb question.
There has to at least 50 coaches in the college ranks who can underachieve like this, and at least that many who are a ton more creative, who can develop and coach up X’s & O’s (and recruit Johnny & Joe’s)
September 21st, 2019 at 3:56 PM ^
If all you are going to do is lose to Ohio State and anyone else with a pulse . . . hell I'll do that for half price.
September 21st, 2019 at 4:04 PM ^
And who we could hire for WAY less
September 21st, 2019 at 11:24 PM ^
This is just silly.
Everyone on this board thought we could not do worse then Pep from last year and were ecstatic when he was replace. How could anyone say this year's offense is better than last year's?
It can ALWAYS get worse. Much much worse.
There are not 50 coaches in NCAA who could do better. It is a fantasy to think so.
Whoever we hire will most likely be much worse than Harbaugh. It would be stupid to do so.
September 22nd, 2019 at 5:03 AM ^
Silly? This coaching staff is silly. Harbaugh is paid sill money for what? Your love for Harbaugh is questionable at best. The upward trajectory is quickly becoming a downward spiral. If you can't see that then I don't know what to say other than temper your expectations for this program and embrace mediocrity.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:47 PM ^
Sick and tired of all the Don Brown apologists!!! We "excused" the Army performance as that was a "unique" offense and he couldn't wait till we played a more conventional offense. AND we had an extra week to prep for Wisconsin, and our defense get TORCHED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, tired of the excuses that the defense is either inexperienced, young, etc., this is year 5 of JMFH, and we need to be reloading and recruiting and developing players a HELL of a lot better!!!!!!!!
September 21st, 2019 at 3:51 PM ^
Don Brown sucks in big games.
Jim Harbaugh sucks in big games.
Oline sucks in big games.
Team is soooo soft it’s scary.
Its time for a change.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:55 PM ^
Hutchinson is a huge disappointment, putting Mason on defense should have been a red flag
September 21st, 2019 at 3:47 PM ^
They will never prove their critics wrong. Ever.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:47 PM ^
positively Hokean performance.
Michigan looked as bad as I've seen them...
Even Urban feels bad for them...CWood is really, really trying to hold back the disappointment
September 21st, 2019 at 3:48 PM ^
I keep trying to be optimistic with the play calling and team prep. Every time I'm rewarded with a whimper and a wet fart.
September 21st, 2019 at 3:48 PM ^
We won the second half!
September 21st, 2019 at 3:48 PM ^
But they had a good week, I mean 2 weeks, of practice!