Who is the brains behind Baltimore's current defensive scheme
I don't watch much NFL, but it's quite obvious and many have already stated how much UM took from the Baltimore Ravens defensive scheme and strategy.
I know that Bill Walsh is often credited with the origins of the west-coast offense like Buddy Ryan is often credited with the creation of the Chicago Bears "46 defense" - the Super Bowl winning 1985 Bears version of a 4-3 base.
Other innovators like Rich Rod have been credited with the creation of a run spread option.
Obviously, every innovative offensive or defensive scheme is generally the result of multiple iterations, an evolution of game theory and strategy, and many coaches and minds - but ultimately, quite often, one or 2 individuals stand out as the creators or executors of the scheme.
That said, curious who would be considered the "father" of the Ravens current defensive structure that MacDonald and Minter have used so effectively at Baltimore and UM? Also, for those more football savvy, from what base is this Baltimore defense derived? Is it a 4-3 man concept, zone concept?
Appreciate the explanation
January 20th, 2024 at 9:20 PM ^
Rashan Gary? Okay he was good college player.
We did have someone that was much better in '21 with Hutchinson
January 21st, 2024 at 7:25 AM ^
IMO he could have been an all timer at 3T if he’d gained 30 lbs in college instead of losing 30lbs. He doesn’t have the natural bend to be a pure pass rusher, and he consistently ended up getting too far upfield when speed rushing.
I know he’s been well above average in the NFL as an OLB, but it just strikes me as such a round peg/square hole fit for such a talented guy. How many other 6’5” 300 lb five star defensive tackles have you heard of to go in to play OLB in the NFL?
January 20th, 2024 at 10:05 PM ^
Don Brown had a good scheme for what Ohio State was doing in 2016 to 2017. But when they shifted to a pro style spread we didn’t have the players to hang with them under Don Brown’s scheme.
In 2018 we had a huge weakness at nickel back and Ohio State attacked it relentlessly (I still wonder to this day why we didn’t play Ambry Thomas there to this day). In 2019 we were weak at defensive tackle and Ohio State once again was able to attack that relentlessly.
I think the big thing with the new scheme is it made it harder for Ohio State to attack our weaknesses in areas where they had a clear personnel advantage. We were asking our corners to go man coverage with their receivers anymore. This year’s defense also really had no weak links (I thought it was John Wallace but can’t say that given he held up against Ohio State, Alabama, and Washington).
I think we’re also in Ryan Day’s head a bit at this point and Ohio State seems unsure about its identity offensively and Day seems particularly focused on proving their toughness at the detriment of running their stuff.
January 21st, 2024 at 12:02 AM ^
Yeah, the second half of the season we all dreaded the day that a team with multiple talented receivers burned Josh Wallace - PSU, Maryland(?), OSU, Alabama, Washington - and it never happened. He held up (like Michigan's OTs versus OSU and Bama's supposedly frightening edge rushers), and as much as anything else, I think those were the keys to winning the National Championship.
January 21st, 2024 at 12:44 AM ^
Ryan Day is about to nuke his own system.
Michigan made him do it. It has not been able to score higher than the 20's for three straight years.
So when he changes to a scheme that is no longer his specialty, does that make his offense better . . . or just ordinary?
January 20th, 2024 at 9:04 PM ^
What's making them so effective is disguising man and zone coverages pre-snap. Plus Hamilton is the perfect rangy safety to control traffic.
January 20th, 2024 at 9:07 PM ^
Nobody specific. It's a 4-2-5 with multiple coverages. If you have the secondary to match up and stop the run with 6 guys you are in business.
January 20th, 2024 at 9:24 PM ^
The correct answer is national champion Michael Barrett.
January 20th, 2024 at 10:39 PM ^
Me, Clarence Boddicker. And I don't even get credit for it. That's fine. I'm used to operating in the shadows.
January 20th, 2024 at 11:46 PM ^
If RichRod had this instead of the beaver defense, my how history would have changed.
January 21st, 2024 at 12:11 AM ^
I'm not so sure. Whereas Harball's offense takes time off the clock reducing the time spent by their defense on the field (and with constant subbing) keeping everybody fresh, RichRods offense was a more high risk/high reward approach and exposed the defense to more snaps.
January 21st, 2024 at 12:46 AM ^
Create your problems with aggression.
January 21st, 2024 at 1:17 AM ^
RR defenses...
2010 - 35.2 ppg
2009 - 27.5 ppg
2008 - 28.9 ppg
I'm not buying that's just a tempo issue.
January 21st, 2024 at 11:25 AM ^
Yeah, Rich might have survived long enough to get fired from Michigan for sexual harassment instead of Arizona.
January 21st, 2024 at 1:02 AM ^
Saw some funny comments elsewhere about CJ Stroud going down to a McDonald defense yet again
January 21st, 2024 at 2:22 AM ^
McDonald knows CJ crumbles under pressure. Did before and did again.
January 21st, 2024 at 8:38 AM ^
It was cold and windy in Baltimore. Totally unfair to Stroud
January 21st, 2024 at 11:09 AM ^
There was snow on the ground.
I mean, it was shoveled off to the side and all, but it was still there.
January 21st, 2024 at 1:09 PM ^
Came across this Neck Sharpies from about three years ago, discussing the Ravens' defense. Interesting to read Seth's explanation of the defense and his projection for players on the roster at that time. Neck Sharpies: The Ravens 5-1-5 Defense