What traits of a DC would you prioritize in the new hire?

Submitted by azee2890 on December 23rd, 2020 at 9:54 AM

Not trying to add another thread spelling out which candidates we should go after for our DC. But I was curious about what traits people would want Michigan to prioritize in their DC search. 

Lay out the top 4 traits you would be prioritizing if you were Harbaugh. Here is a list to choose from to get started (feel free to add):

- Proven track record and experience

- Young and up and coming

- Overall recruiting prowess

- Great schematic coach

- Connection to Midwest recruiting

- Connection to Southern recruiting

- Connection to East coast recruiting

- Connection to West coast recruiting

- Connection to Michigan

- Connection to OSU

- Specialty on Defensive line

- Specialty on LB's

- Specialty on Secondary

- Has coached at a blue blood program

- Ties to Harbaugh

 

For instance, when Don Brown was hired, he was: Proven track record and experience, Great schematic coach, Connection to East coast recruiting, Specialty on LB's.

Curious to see what people would be looking for given the state of our program. 

My list would be something like (in order): 

1. Great schematic coach

2. Overall recruiting prowess

3. Experienced and proven

4. Connection to southern recruiting

 

Stringer Bell

December 23rd, 2020 at 10:26 AM ^

I want someone that employs more of a bend but don't break philosophy.  I really think that's the only way to slow down offenses like OSU's.  Sure you let them move the ball down the field but you force them into field goals rather than touchdowns.  Brown tried to do the opposite, and the result was OSU WRs running right past our secondary for easy TD passes.

Recruiting has to be #2 on the list.  The defense needs a huge infusion of talent, especially on the DL.  I don't really care about experience, I'm willing to sacrifice that for a guy who is energetic and able to recruit at a high level.  And I'd much prefer they have ties to talent-rich regions, whether that be Ohio or the southeast, doesn't matter.  Just can't have the northeast be their natural stomping grounds.

Golden section

December 23rd, 2020 at 10:32 AM ^

Innovative and flexible - the ability to skew schemes to fit the skill-set l of the players.

Fundamentally sound have a knowledge of all key defensive positions

A solid leader not afraid to hire  superior position coaches

Stresses accountability both from player and coaches 

Collaborative the ability to listen to both from player and coaches 

Appreciates and can leverage the Michigan brand

I don't care where he gets players from as long as he can recruit nationally and connect with the right kind of players, tough-minded, intelligent, competitive leaders that are willing to put in the effort, set an example

Communicative, driven, deeply caring and motivational, a guy that would take a bullet for his players so they  would take one for him.

Is that too much to ask?  

BlueRude

December 23rd, 2020 at 10:38 AM ^

A second tier SEC DC guy that knows the drill. Knows that his team will for the future never compete w Alabummer, Ga. kids down here respect the M brand so look for opportunities. If you coached hockey you go to Canada, eh?

 

Mpfnfu Ford

December 23rd, 2020 at 10:41 AM ^

Dont have high hopes. Doubt anyone with real prospects will take the job given Harbaugh’s own status, so the only real shot seems to be if he hires a real young guy who is a good recruiter and ambitious enough to take the gamble in order to become a coordinator.

 

Perkis-Size Me

December 23rd, 2020 at 11:03 AM ^

Someone who decides its not a good idea to let a guy like Brandon Watson play man to man against OSU's army of 5* wide receivers. 

Someone who realizes that he can't shut OSU down, and doesn't try to, but is smart about the ways in which he can slow them down. 

Seriously, just someone who can put together the best possible game plan for OSU. That is all I care about. I don't expect any DC anywhere to be able to hold them to under 20 points. They are just way too talented for that. But someone who can hold them to 30ish, and that gives the offense a chance. 

Mich04-08

December 23rd, 2020 at 11:18 AM ^

"But someone who can hold them to 30ish, and that gives the offense a chance."

See 2016 and 2017. Offense was garbage then and still is today. It does not give the defense a chance to get off the field and recover

2016 @ OSU: Defense allowed only 10 points in regulation and offense allowed 7 (pick 6).

2017 @ Mich: After going up 20-14 with 7:07 in the 3rd quarter, the last four drives are:

6 plays - 8 yds - 1:44 - Punt

8 plays - 36 yds - 3:28 - Turnover on Downs

1 play - 0 yds - 0:11 - Interception

8 plays - 47 yds - 1:44 - End of Game

OSU dominated the second half with 17 minutes in time of possession vs 13 for Mich.

Perkis-Size Me

December 23rd, 2020 at 1:44 PM ^

Yeah and look at how OSU has evolved since then. They are not having JT Barrett back there, a great athlete with a so-so arm. They have NFL caliber QBs back there now. And Brown hasn’t been able to do squat to stop those guys. 

Let’s be honest: Brown was able to contain OSU in 2016-17 because no one was afraid of Barrett’s ability to beat them with his arm. The minute Haskins stepped in, everything changed. You had a guy who could make all the throws and was still athletic enough to keep defenses honest. Now you’ve got Justin Fields, a guy who when he’s on his game, does both at an elite level. And those are the kinds of players OSU is recruiting at the position right now. NFL caliber players. 

Mich04-08

December 24th, 2020 at 4:01 AM ^

And what exactly has Harbaugh's offense done since 2016-2017 to show that it would do well with a good defense?

Let's go to 2018, OSU up 27-19, offense gets shuts out in the 3rd quarter while ST gives up a blocked punt TD. Then the offense comes back out and throws an INT to set up OSU at Michigan's 22. By then, the game is 41-19  and pretty much out of reach and Michigan proceeds to put together two long TD drives against OSU's prevent D, before throwing an INT that sets up OSU at Michigan's 19 again. Basically, the offense came "alive" again in garbage time.

In 2019 the defense was awful and the offense stalled out after the 1st quarter.

PoopAndFarts

December 23rd, 2020 at 11:11 AM ^

How can anything other than recruiting be at the top? We just had a great defensive mind in Don Brown - when Vince Gray is left on an island, you get got. The end.

Alabama adjusts scheme constantly depending on the talent (admittedly, very good talent across the board). But they don’t recruit to a scheme - they recruit top guys and adjust.

Recruiting is job one. Everything else is a distant second.

 

Brian Griese

December 23rd, 2020 at 11:11 AM ^

My list:

  1. A coach with a philosophy of preventing big plays at the expense of letting the other team move the ball in between the 30’s and 20’s. Good red zone defense is a must. You’re not going to stop OSU anyways so you might as well have a full-time action plan that can contain them. 
  2. Someone that can teach multiple looks in a limited practice time environment.  If you’re going to compete with air raids you have to mix in zones, man, traps, etc. 
  3. A coach that is a specialist in working with DB’s. As blitzing becomes less and less effective you need someone that not only can implement multiple schemes but also someone that can provide one on one coaching to the corners and safeties
  4. Probably goes without saying some recruiting chops would be nice 

AlbanyBlue

December 23rd, 2020 at 11:58 AM ^

Recruit well and prioritize recruiting in position coaches.

Assemble a staff that can develop the players to reach their ceilings.

Using you well-recruited and developed players, develop the ability to be multiple and flexible in defensive schemes. Understand the realities of the Big Ten and develop your defense accordingly. Have the ability to adapt your scheme week-to-week and during a game as needed.

Mongo

December 23rd, 2020 at 12:14 PM ^

Very tricky selection process given the short leash.  Need an entire staff that can:

  • Stuff the run against OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, MSU and IU
  • Contain their passing to moderate the score into the mid-20s
  • Win the turnover margin
  • Own Michigan recruiting (get Benny and every Cass Tech DB)

To me, the scheme needs to be a classic 4-3 front ... anchored by a huge NT, stout 3-Tech, and versatile DEs.  The back-end needs to be Cover 2 as its base, with creativity for the underneath stuff from OSU.  Let Dax Hill survey the back-end and be an INT machine.  Our corners are good enough to run a simple Cover 2 and Dax would be best utilized as a free safety. 

Issue is our DL is not great, but has developmental potential.  So need an awesome DL coach who can take our talent to its ceiling.  Plus, need to add a grad-transfer at NT - big dude like a Mone sized man.  

 

JDeanAuthor

December 23rd, 2020 at 12:18 PM ^

It's real simple:

1.) A scheme that adapts and adjusts.  No more "one-trick-pony" schemes that don't know what to do when the blitz doesn't work. Brown's "Dr. Blitz" scheme was fine for 90 percent of the teams we went against, but for the other 10 percent (the good ones), it fell on its face.

2.) Player development.  This is even more important than recruiting. Getting that 5-star means nothing if you can't develop him into the player who can execute.  I'd rather see a DC who can take 2 stars and make them play like 4 stars instead of the guy who can recruit 5 stars and squander them until they look like 1 stars.

3.) Harbaugh's input if things go wrong.  People are ripping into Brown, but Harbaugh was right there along with him in his scheme, and seemed to be just fine with it. I've already said that Harbaugh should be gone; Rich Rod and Hoke both had inept coordinators and both lost their jobs for it.  Harbaugh appears to be given special treatment on this one, so I'm not crazy he's still here.  But if he remains, he has GOT to step in and say something when things aren't going right.

4.) Recruiting. 

jdemille9

December 23rd, 2020 at 1:01 PM ^

1. Experienced and proven at the P5 level - and more than just a year or two of success

2. Great schematic coach - base scheme doesn't matter but he needs to flexible and willing to play to the strengths of his roster (which inevitably changes over time) and find ways to mask glaring weaknesses)

That's it. The assistants can be the great recruiters, and I don't care where they pull kids from. 

Dizzy

December 23rd, 2020 at 1:19 PM ^

First off, I'd have candidates interview by presenting a game plan for how to stop Ryan Day's offense. I believe Don Brown was already rebuilding the defense to do this, but this year's depth at DT and corner led to players trying to compensate in ways that broke the scheme. 

Still, I think the future of CFB is in 3 down lineman packages with lots of bend but don't break zone behind it. Get teams off schedule and bring situational pressure when you can. Gotta be able to disguise coverages and give QBs a lot to read.

Second, recruiting is crucial. Michigan needs someone who is a proven elite recruiter to ensure they never run into depth issues like this again.

Lastly, they gotta fit the program culture and be a master of player motivation.

If it was me, I'd go after Partridge as a co-DC and Recruiting director, then pay what you have to for Mason, Clinkscale, or Banks, depending on who has the best interview to beat OSU.

BTB grad

December 23rd, 2020 at 2:01 PM ^

This is more so for the entire staff rather than DC, but it's batshit insane that we don't at all times have at least one assistant on staff who has direct ties and connection to MI/Detroit for recruiting. Once Wheatley left, we've never had someone like that. It's mind boggling

Cope

December 23rd, 2020 at 2:14 PM ^

I would add:

 

—Great mid-game adjustments

 

Brown may have been a great schematic coach, but he was not this. I would make great mid-game adjustments one of my four. I think it’s an essential that separates the most successful coaches from the rest since coaching is a chess game of strategy. 

GOTEXASBLUE

December 23rd, 2020 at 3:53 PM ^

Most important to me;

1. Can take over for Harbaugh as head coach when he gets fired next year after another sub par year and a humiliating loss to the team in Ohio. 


2. A great recruiter 

3. Someone a little younger, or at least willing to keep up with the times and build the program to compete with teams in modern era college football.. Hire an offensive coordinator with like mind , 1986 smash mouth or a handcuffed spread is not going to do it. 
 


 

bluenoteSA80

December 23rd, 2020 at 5:11 PM ^

1. Great at putting together strong defensive game plans which limit opponent's offensive options.

2. Overall recruiting prowess. Michigan is still a national brand for recruiting top talent.

3. The ability to make in-game adjustments to opposing offenses.

4. The fire to charge up the troops without making them lose focus.

MGrether

December 23rd, 2020 at 6:23 PM ^

1 & 2. Great recruiting - especially of Ohio - with a specialty in Defensive linemen. Someone who knows and understands Defensive line recruiting. With the spread and power spread, so much relies on insanely awesome defensive linemen being being to win their matchups without much support against the run... while being disruptive to the pass. We are currently seeing what life without good DTs looks like and it is not good.  As for regions: Our best eras came from taking a share of Ohio and PA recruits who cared about Big X football and understood the rivalries, etc. Being from the area, knowing they have to go home and wear their Maize & Blue in hostile territory gives a deeper sense of pride that you cannot coach into someone who grew up on Clemson or Georgia or USC football.

3. Good Schematics. I am actually beginning to lean towards a coach who prefers zone coverages, using a killer dline to pressure the QB. OSU is recruiting to have a yearly track meet against teams. That will be nearly impossible to play effective man-to-man all game unless we have a stable of elite CBs (see the killer dline comments). We need to have the offense doing effective speed in space and scoring points, with the defense forcing teams to constantly make good decisions against a variety of coverages, work their way down the field, and try not to get eaten alive by the ferocious dline. 

4. Younger with a chip on shoulder/something to prove. Someone who wants to make a name for themselves, wants to be recognized for their game, wants to be noticed to become a head coach. I want the energy and enthusiasm of someone who is hungry. If it could be someone who has experience of working with programs that have faced OSU style spreads would be nice... 

285matt

December 23rd, 2020 at 7:46 PM ^

- Proven track record and experience

- Overall recruiting prowess

- Great schematic coach

- Connection to Southern recruiting

 

Narrowed it down one by one and ended up with the same as you. I don't care about being connected to JH, Michigan, or Ohio State. Maybe a secondary specialty, but would rather have a track record. West Coast or Southern recruiting is a must, or at least SOME proven ability to recruit in an area other than Northeast. Honestly, I'd take someone who could consistently pull a top 10 or a few top 20's from Florida/Texas.