We’re not getting better coaches to replace Drevno or Pep, are we?

Submitted by ShittyPlaceKicker on
All season long there was non-stop talk by Michigan fans on here and reddit about how they couldn’t wait for Harbaugh to clean house on offense. It’s almost February and nothing has changed. Is it safe to say at this point that there’s a really good chance that our coaching staff is going to look the same come our first game against Notre Dame? Has there been any news to indicate otherwise? If not, how do we all feel about this?

LSAClassOf2000

January 27th, 2018 at 1:30 PM ^

I'll put it this way - I have found myself in the middle of Michigan-related pages and discussions on Facebook and there were actually points where I thought MLive was a tea party, albeit a slightly downmarket one, in comparison to what was being vomited into existence under the guise of fandom on Facebook. 

Stuck in Lansing

January 27th, 2018 at 11:37 AM ^

and bad WRs isn't exactly an easy thing to do. Hopefully with experience the WRs will improve. I happen to think excessive coaching turnover and mixed philosophies have hurt the O. Maybe Drev isn't the answer, but Pep and Harbaugh didn't forget how to coach.

ohioNblue33

January 27th, 2018 at 11:46 AM ^

Has been here for going on 4 years. His group has underachieved like his play calling. Ive gave Pep alot of stink but ill give him 1 more year. But, Drevno needs to go. Ive also heard that Drevno is very complicating to work with. Wheatley and Fisch didnt like him. The guy needs to go!

JFW

January 27th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^

Changes have occurred. Drev was fine before. Pep I worry about but I think he’ll be brought more in line so we have a coherent coaching strategy

UMxWolverines

January 27th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^

Drevno might not be cut out for playcalling and OL coaching and might be okay if he was just in charge of OL, but the receiver routes last year and the receivers themselves just looked absolutely terrible. That's gotta be on Pep.

WorldwideTJRob

January 27th, 2018 at 1:17 PM ^

We had 3 freshman play last year. Crawford, McDoom, Perry, Ways, Drizzy, and Schonele all had years in the program and their route running was no better than the Freshman. We have to stop with the excuses, we looked awful in the passing game last year. So much so that when Peters passed for about 150 yards against Rutgers we were ready to anoint him the savior of the program.

the Glove

January 27th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^

The real question is when are threads like these going to stop? If somehow Drevno and Pep do a good job this coming season a lot of people are going to look like assholes. 1. Maybe it was Frey's offensive scheme that setback the offensive line. Possibly Drevno apologize to the offense of line for not really being involved because he focused on the offensive coordinator side of it more. 2. Pep getting acquainted to the system. Who really knows but the Doom and Gloom attitude that keeps going on about these guys is getting old. If they truly do suck next year then they'll can them but until then stop moping.

Matte Kudasai

January 27th, 2018 at 11:57 AM ^

with the same principals next season frightens me.

It's so cliche to rip the play calling, but my god it was the worst I've ever seen at any level in my many years of watching football.

How can that happen?

Sten Carlson

January 27th, 2018 at 12:18 PM ^

You obviously weren’t watching all that closely, and/or don’t have a clue what you’re looking at when you do watch. You’re right, it’s cliche as fuck. You’re just so emotional tied to Michigan that you must lash it at something. Every play that “doesn’t work” is met with more and more ire, yet you never tone down that ire when a play call was brialliant but the player(s) just failed to execute. It’s all black and no white for you and many in here.

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Sten Carlson

January 27th, 2018 at 3:32 PM ^

When there are receivers running wide open reapeatedly, yes? X’s & O’s only do so much, the players have to execute. Nothing I saw was too complex, it was just the guys trying to excute kept missing reads Sure, some coaching but more players.

Michael Burnham

January 28th, 2018 at 1:49 AM ^

If the playcalling was so wonderful, why do they keep calling plays that your staff cannot execute?  

I mean they practice these plays right?  So either the coaching is inept and despite the objective evidence that their players cannot do what they ask them to, they stubbornly keep calling those plays.  Which to me, sounds like borderline insanity.  Or when gametime occurs, the players forget everything they've been practicing and regress back to day 1.

 

Matte Kudasai

January 27th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^

Shit play calling is shit play calling. And furthermore it’s not rocket science. We aren’t paying coaches a million a year to apologize to the players. That display of “coaching” last year was a pathetic joke. The fact that we couldn’t get rid of Drevno or Pep speaks volumes. When the defense talks about how lame the plays were, believe them. This one is all on Harbaugh.

Sten Carlson

January 27th, 2018 at 3:08 PM ^

You’re proving my point with your inane repetition of platitudes and memes — you’re just emotional. You don’t understand why, so you lash out. It’s a common reaction to a lack of understanding. In a desperate need to have some clarity, you grasp at the simplest, and most aggrsssive, solution (to show that you REALLY mean business) and fire someone. You can’t fire the players, and you seem really annoyed by the millions the coaches make, so go all in on Team Fire Drevno and Pep. You (and your ilk) make threats about tickets and issue forth dire proclamations about what’s going to happen if what YOU think is the solution (even though you only have HALF a solution) isn’t implemented. On and on you guys blathered, acting like hard asses, spouting buzz words like accountability, and lacing them with ultimatums. All this in attempt to protect your emotional investment and give you an out should you be let down again. My question is, if your wrong and no changes are made (which there still could be) and the offense is better, will you eat crow?

FrozeMangoes

January 27th, 2018 at 7:53 PM ^

To make you so sure they are the ones to turn around the offense? I am not being a dick.  I want UM to have a good offense. I dont care how they do it.  But, when I look at what they have done prior to UM it is hard for me to get excited going into next year about the offense.

Drevno was a career OL coach and Pep has never co-ordinated a top offense even with Luck.

You want a platitude?

"we just gotta keep pumping the well"

 

Sten Carlson

January 27th, 2018 at 4:42 PM ^

Yes, I do. But, that was before the concussion incident and before I was under the impression we were going to hire Jim Harbaugh. Once that became possible I changed my opinion. I reserve to right to do so once new information comes to light.

UMxWolverines

January 27th, 2018 at 6:39 PM ^

That is not correct at all. You were still wanting him to come back late in the season after the Northwestern game. You claimed it was impossible for us to do well that year because even though we returned a bunch of starters from the 2013 team, our second and third string being sophmores and juniors was the culprit, but we were improving after a second sludgefart game in a row with Northwestern.

MIGHTYMOJO91

January 27th, 2018 at 12:00 PM ^

Not only will the coaching staff be the same next season so will the results. Really anxious to see the 2019 team made up of all defensive backs and how they perform on offense. Great things in store for UM football.

JTGoBlue

January 27th, 2018 at 12:03 PM ^

If his top two employees were lost for the year on medical leave?

I too was a little baffled by some the the play calling, however I find it amazing that fans are brushing off our significant injury issues as it relates to the lack of progress on offense this year.

Record of games started and finished by our first string QB: 3-0.

Record of games started and finished by our second string QB: 2-1.

Record of games started and finished by our third string QB: 1-3.

Record of games started by one QB and finished by another: 2-1.

Is this the reason for the lack of progress at the QB position, and with it the offense, or our coaching?