San Diego Mick

December 16th, 2021 at 4:02 AM ^

He is one of the biggest phonies ever. I wouldn't give a shit if he came back in some capacity to osu, we climbed that mountain top this year.

People need to realize what a significant win and season this has been. Unlike 2011 when we beat a team coached by an interim guy and reeling from scandals, this year we beat a team ranked 2nd late in the season by the committee, not just the polls or being overrated in the beginning of a season.

Not only did we beat them, we pounded them into submission  and broke their will.

So Pervin Meyer can go fuck himself, he doesn't worry me, he peaked already. Amazing how not having such a talent advantage exposed him for being an average coach. 

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TIMMMAAY

December 16th, 2021 at 7:27 AM ^

Wait a minute here. I agree with your first few bits there, but he's far beyond an "average coach"... come on man. Dude is a fucking scumbag, but he's an excellent coach, and has demonstrated that everywhere, except for the NFL. I didn't think he'd make it in the pro's, it's just a fundamentally different game than he ever had to deal with as a college coach. More at work than talent disparity. 

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mgoblue_in_bay

December 16th, 2021 at 12:44 AM ^

Anyone know the particulars of his NFL contract?  If he was intentionally making things worse so that they'd have to fire him, but still stayed within the guidelines of his contract so that they owed him the rest of it -> thats a great payday right?

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JMo

December 16th, 2021 at 1:32 AM ^

I think it depends on how you define "ridiculous". All NFL money is ridiculous, but reports in recent days were that Meyer was only due to make around 6m a year (as opposed to the rumored 10m he was supposedly making). Which, if true, is mid-table for an NFL salary and obviously considerably lower than even college coaching giants like Mel Tucker.

Big payday maybe... there's also still the chance that he's fired for cause, so we'll see. But I think most people thought "Urban Meyer money" was going to be more than it actually was.

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1VaBlue1

December 16th, 2021 at 8:29 AM ^

I was going to say just this, and I haven't even been around Nebraska!  But yeah, they don't want anything outrageous, they're all about doing things 'the right way' - whatever that means.

I can, however easily see Meyer going to Texas next year, after Sark's team crashes and burns again.  And Texas boosters won't give a shit about his history - all they want to do is win.

As for Nebraska, I can see Lane Kiffen being a candidate when Frost loses a bunch of one score games because he's a shitty special teams coordinator again.  The question here is whether Kiffen believes he can do anything in Nebraska despite the Huskers being a bigger name in football than Ole Miss ever will be.  Nebraska also has a FAR easier path to a conference championship game and playoff berth in the B1G West than Ole Miss will ever have in the SEC West.

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OSUMC Wolverine

December 16th, 2021 at 12:46 AM ^

im thinking urbans growing instability may make him to high risk for any respectable profitable program. his career as a coach may be done...he wont be willing to take a second tier job

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JMo

December 16th, 2021 at 1:35 AM ^

Honestly, I'm kind of the opposite. I'm pretty bummed it ended so quickly. There are few things that I've enjoyed more in the NFL this season than, Urban Meyer's Lap Dance, Urban Meyer making his coaches testify to their "winning" bonifides, Urban Meyer's QB having to beg him to let their RB play, Urban Meyer threatening his leaking coaches with an instant-firing, Urban Meyer kicking his kicker. I really wanted this to end with some combination of his Ohio State and Florida outs, maybe faking health issues and wanting to spend more time with his family. Coming to a press conference with a neck immobilizer on. 

I really feel like we are being robbed of some truly amazing comedic schaedenfruede moments... that said, all of this couldn't be happening to a worse guy, so at least there's that.

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HighBeta

December 16th, 2021 at 12:49 AM ^

Wow. He's burned *all* the bridges in the game, college and pro. Back to broadcasting?

Or maybe he takes 12 months off and then some desperate AD brings him back?

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WayOfTheRoad

December 16th, 2021 at 12:53 AM ^

Rarely are my predictions so accurate. Said he wouldn't make it past December back when he had that fiasco during their bye week.

The man is a total fraud. He is capable of doing one thing and that it procuring high school talent and it just so happens that that is probably the most important step to winning in CFB.

The way he got the talent was always shady and flat-out wrong (google the stories of him questioning the sexuality of 16-18yo kids to get them to commit). He then lords over them like a tyrant while having success that is ALWAYS met with eventual disaster/downfall. Always. The man is a walking ego, a legitimate sociopath. Those things are rarely compatible with what it takes to lead an NFL team.

Zero doubt from day 1 that this would lead to comical failure. The sad part is that there will be 50 programs lining up to hire him as their HC. He wins...for a bit. You'll pay for it eventually but for a while you'll win big and that's all that matters to them.

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jhayes1189

December 16th, 2021 at 1:47 AM ^

I would take being a fan of a team that is highly competitive year in and year out, that doesn’t have an embarrassment of a human being leading them, and that every few years has a team that can really make a truly deep run based on a collection of great senior leadership and talent, as opposed to a team that wins BIG for a few straight years as a football factory, only to be abandoned, slide way down in competitiveness, and ultimately your great teams are forgotten and overshadowed by controversy (see Florida)

 

somehow OSU avoids this stuff because they only seem to function at the level they feel comfortable with when complete sociopaths are their leaders, probably because they are truly evil…(seriously though, due a quick internet search of human trafficking in Columbus Ohio, people none other than Jeff Epstein’s sugar daddy, Les Wexner are kings of that town)…..alright off that rabbit trail…but for real, I don’t want a guy like Urban Meyer ever at the head coaching position for my team. Hell, I don’t even want a guy like Jimmy Johnson who was successful in the NFL but was cool with a few hookers and blow at the U. 

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DairyQueen

December 16th, 2021 at 1:44 AM ^

It is interesting in the age of social media how, although the team would still underperform, we woudn't have heard about SO much of this.

I mean, an 1980's local reporter is not going to risk getting his privileges revoked listening to a fired former kicker be like "in the summertime, he kicked me", in the 80's they'd have been like "take it like a man", and the wide receiver storming out and the line about him calling the coaches "losers", there's only so much news that can fit on a printed paper (or ESPN sportstalk segment), but thanks to social media, everything/anyone can update/report on literally anything that very same day, even that very same second (live feeds)

I'm not saying it's not a huge double-edged sword (it is), and potential to be abused (it is), but it is interesting and worth reflecting on just how much of this would have just gone right under the rug, it would have been a "bad season" and he would have been known as a "tough coach" literally just a few decades ago

Yes, I realize in the grand scheme of things we're just talking about football, and this has like one one-zillionth the importantance of actual historical, world-changing events, it is cool to know that although social media/technology has a lot of negatives/pitfalls, that it can also lead to transparency and accountability (at least sometimes)

I had a friend who worked in hollywood tell me if Netflix didn't exist/wasn't a legtimate outlet for performers, that  a lot of the "me too" stuff would have never been exposed, because there are only a handful of studios that control everything and they would have mutually closed ranks and blacklisted anyone who made these allegations, but having Netflix (not part of the old boys club) allowed them to not completely risk their career. We argued and of course it's more complicated than simply that, but clearly they would have been risking their career/blacklisting and thus ever working again and having access to outlets to transmit and broadcast information and speech is vital in escaping the control and manipulation of gatekeepers and silencers.

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UMinSF

December 16th, 2021 at 12:55 AM ^

Wow, that was incredibly fast. 

You have to work pretty hard to screw things up this badly, this quickly.

- Berating and belittling your staff - check

- Physically assaulting a player - check

- Paying so little attention to your job that you don't even know who's been playing - check

- Alienating players and staff so badly they complain to opposing players - check

- Skipping a flight home after a loss, then drunkenly cavorting with a young woman in public - check

- Lying repeatedly about, well, pretty much everything - check

- Looking on helplessly while your team collapses around you, shut out in last game - check

- Watching your prized "can't miss" rookie QB regress, with 4 int's in last game - check

Well done, Urbs! You richly deserved your shit-canning!

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