Updated 247 Rankings.
247 released an updated ranking today.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool
Zach Harrison is at 3, Dax Hill is at 7, Karlaftis is at 11, Zach charbonnet moved up to 21 which is one spot out of 5 star range. Interestingly enough, Chris Hinton fell out of the top 247 completely.
Eric Gray is at 86, Karsen Barnhart and David Ojabo are also ranked in the top 247
November 13th, 2018 at 12:06 PM ^
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool
im on mobile and accidentally posted the composite. 247 updated their own personal rankings which still changes the composite, but isn’t what I was referencing. Sorry for the confusion
November 13th, 2018 at 12:06 PM ^
Hinton's profile still shows him at 36th in 247's rankings.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:11 PM ^
I noticed that as well. It could very possibly be an error, because even players ranked outside the top 247 have a ranking, where as Hintons is N/A.
trente Jones also makes a big jump fwiw
November 13th, 2018 at 12:13 PM ^
Lorenz just said Hinton fell to somewhere around #100 or so and that his player page is just an error. So there's that.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:14 PM ^
Hinton isn’t even in the top 200 prospects in Georgia. Which I find hard to believe. I’m assuming it’s an error at this point until told otherwise.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
I see Hinton at #50.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:47 PM ^
hes at 104 for what im seeing
November 13th, 2018 at 12:15 PM ^
The site is updating. The player's page shows the old rankings. I'm sure they'll be caught up tomorrow. Thanks for the post!
November 13th, 2018 at 12:43 PM ^
Their Top 247 list now has Hinton at #104.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:10 PM ^
anyone have the actual quote from Karlaftis about Brohm and his commitment to Purdue? I know it was something to the effect of the only way he would re consider his commitment is if Brohm left. I would just like to see the quote so I can way over analyze and read into it! Sounds fun right!?
November 13th, 2018 at 12:12 PM ^
Must be an oversight regarding Hinton.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:13 PM ^
Is Hinton's profile glitched? Seems very odd that he would fall from #36 to unranked and no one hearing anything about something major happening to him
November 13th, 2018 at 12:14 PM ^
I know it's not going to happen but Nakobe Dean's tape reminds me so much of Devin Bush. It would be a perfect fit.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:14 PM ^
Uh...Chris Hinton is #24 in the composite and #36 in the 247 rankings on his profile page, and #50 on the 247 Composite player rankings page. So, yeah, he's still there.
If Harrison and Karlaftis join the class, we could have six top 100 players. Crouch is a possibility as well. Getting one of those three would be delightful, two would be exceptional, and all three would make this class one of the better groups Michigan has ever reeled-in. It would certainly be our best defensive class ever.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:16 PM ^
Yea it’s probably an error at this point. He just isn’t on the updated list. I found it interesting but he was 36th before the update so at this point idk
November 13th, 2018 at 12:21 PM ^
Oh I see he's only on the composite? Weird
November 13th, 2018 at 12:24 PM ^
No I did not. The #36 prospect on the Updated top 247 is not Hinton, and on the composite he has a N/A next to him. I’m assuming an error at this point, but he is not on the updated list.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^
Yea which makes me think it’s an error. I can see 247 dropping him because whatever, but he’s not even ranked in the top 200 prospects in his state, which I’m not buying in the least. Probably just an algorithm error when dealing with a big database.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^
Yea which makes me think it’s an error. I can see 247 dropping him because whatever, but he’s not even ranked in the top 200 prospects in his state, which I’m not buying in the least. Probably just an algorithm error when dealing with a big database.
November 13th, 2018 at 1:54 PM ^
I don't care if it is just a glitch or not. If the computer doesn't have him highly-rated, I don't want him at Michigan because of STARZ.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:16 PM ^
The 50 ranking seems to be the only accurate one right now. The other values are older, and the composite 247 shows Hinton at #50, but the 247 score shows N/A.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:14 PM ^
It is odd to see that Gold P next to a 5 star.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
Maize "M" will replace it shortly.
November 13th, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^
As soon as that Louisville Bag Man shows up at Brohm's door
November 13th, 2018 at 12:17 PM ^
Damn, Trente Jones jumped 300 spots
November 13th, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
I guess what Steve mentioned in the podcast actually happened.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:25 PM ^
Logan Brown and Bryce Benhart also ranked extremely high. Classic "what if" with those two.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
and Devontae Dobbs down 6 spots. Seems like his ranking is going in a downward direction, which is line with a lot of observations of his play. Doubt he ends up a 5 Star in the composite.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
The kid is really good-probably LT good. A couple weeks ago they had a tackle eligible type play where they swung it out to him in the right flat...he takes off-jukes a DB and gains about 20 yards...and this is big-time Georgia HS football. A high school kid that big is not supposed to be able to do that!!! It was an eye-opener...for how athletic he is. Barnhart can do the same thing and Rumler is a friggin beast. I'm telling you (if you don't already know) this is one helluva a class coming in...and they are clearly not done!
I love Charbonnet and Gray both coming this weekend!!!
November 13th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^
247 acknowledged that hinton is an error. he is going to be around #100 on their internal rankings.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^
Makes sense! Thanks for the heads up!
November 13th, 2018 at 12:31 PM ^
Realizing that we could have Harrison and Karlaftis coming off the edge with Dax patrolling the secondary just gave me chills.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:31 PM ^
OSU only has 15 commits so far? Usually I would assume because they're waiting on a bunch of top guys but didn't see their logo next to many of the undecided top guys.
Just a small class for them this year in terms of available slots or what? Seems like we'll move into a top 5-ish class depending on how we finish for guys like Harrison/Crouch/Karlaftis and Penn State will likely end up in the top-10 but not looking like a lights out class for OSU after being Top-5 most years Urban's been there.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
I think they had 15 commits when Meyer was put on leave. That and the uncertainty that has followed slowed down their recruiting to a crawl.
November 13th, 2018 at 12:38 PM ^
Hinton's T247 ranking seems to have updated to 104th
November 13th, 2018 at 2:47 PM ^
Anyone know why he fell so much? He doesn't really do camps, so that could be it
November 13th, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^
I realize that Lorenz and Webb have no role in this, so I'm not criticizing them. But it seems like 247 would make sure all of its recruit lists were linked and updated before announcing changes like this?
November 13th, 2018 at 12:47 PM ^
What is the reason for Hinton's slide down? Is it that he might move inside at the college level?
November 13th, 2018 at 12:56 PM ^
He's very good but not elite/explosive. Moving inside would indeed seem to be the correct move for him. To me, his tape was never 5***** from the physical side...but my guess is that he is a very cerebral player and he will be a very solid contributor. I know he wants to play defense but OL may finally be his calling.
November 14th, 2018 at 12:08 AM ^
Anyone that thinks Hinton isn’t elite or explosive must be watching the wrong highlights...his short area and upper body burst is peerless he will thrive at DT he reminds me more of MO
November 13th, 2018 at 2:48 PM ^
He didn't really do any camps or anything his senior year so that's probably a reason
November 13th, 2018 at 1:03 PM ^
I'm not a big follower of recruiting, but that kind of stings to see four in state guys in the top 75 and none of them committed to Michigan.
November 13th, 2018 at 1:23 PM ^
Not the best for the feels I admit, but this was just a weird year for it. Brown was always going to Wisconsin, Barnett/Dobbs just were not going to Michigan no way/no how. There was never much Bradford/Michigan buzz and Lance Dixon was a miss that may be down to the black cloud that overhung the program from last season through the Notre Dame game.
Basically, this was a weird year for in-state recruiting and I'm not going to freak out unless it becomes a trend and so far in 2020 it doesn't seem to be.
November 13th, 2018 at 1:24 PM ^
Yes and no. Good players are more likely to be good. But also, good players come from everywhere. So if we lose out on a 4-star in-state prospect and land a 4-star prospect from, say, Georgia, then the trade-off is negligible.
November 13th, 2018 at 1:27 PM ^
IMO Logan Brown and Lance Dixon are the two that really sting because we badly need tackles and right now there is no heir apparent to Hudson at Viper.
The Justin Rogers recruitment next year will be interesting. Going to be a tough pill to swallow if they can't sign him because that would make three 5 star instate OL to go elsewhere in the last two years.
November 13th, 2018 at 1:55 PM ^
Im sure its asked a lot, are any of these recruits still on Michigan radar and do any of them have Michigan on their radar?? Or ship sailed?
November 13th, 2018 at 2:09 PM ^
none of the recruiting people have mentioned it so doubtful. There's limited room left in this class with 24 commits and 28 being the very high side of how many we could take depending on attrition and firm handshakes and such. The guys you're hearing mentioned a lot - Harrison, Crouch, Karlaftis, DeLoach, and maybe a few others are the only realistics takes at this point and there's no reason to think these guys will flip from their current committed schools.
this could be one of our top all-time classes by the time it's said and done. can't win every recruiting battle. we continue to move in the right direction.
November 13th, 2018 at 4:37 PM ^
Interesting, may be our best class ever in what seems to be a historic year for top recruits in Michigan and we virtually strike out on all local talent. Cant complain!
November 13th, 2018 at 8:41 PM ^
Best ever seems pretty lofty. 2017 was a great class, even though its seen a decent amount of attrition. 2013 was a great class even though Brady Hoke squandered all the offensive talent, Dymonte Thomas, Taco Charlton, Jourdan Lewis, Jake Butt, Mo Hurst, Delano Hill, Ben Gedeon, Channing Stribling, Mike McCray and Khalid Hill all ended up in the NFL at some point or another. It's just a shame that class had 6 players in the top 115, and Dymonte Thomas was the only one who you could say was an above average player for Michigan. Shane Morris, Chris Fox, David Dawson, Patrick Kugler and Derrick Green were not.
November 13th, 2018 at 1:09 PM ^
Crouch is #83 down 31 spots.