Tom Herman returning to Texas in 2021
Figures after they struck out publicly with Meyer.
December 12th, 2020 at 3:26 PM ^
It's gonna be strange in the Texas coaches office for the next year. Hard to imagine how things can work out after your boss publicly negotiated to dump you for something hotter.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:17 PM ^
This just means OSU will be camping their recruiting efforts in Texas for a longer period of time, sigh.
At least they made a decision, unlike another program we're too familiar with right now.
December 12th, 2020 at 5:58 PM ^
And if Michigan had publicly struck out with their top candidate and decided to stick with Harbaugh and give him an extension, your response would be?
December 12th, 2020 at 6:16 PM ^
That's why I was pulling hard for Meyer to Texas. Needed Meyer to flip that # 1 QB and WR from the 2022 class that committed to OSU. Hell, they'll keep raiding that state for the foreseeable future as they're in on a few more 2022 top Texas players
December 12th, 2020 at 8:13 PM ^
The story that I read on ESPN.com mentioned that Urbz told them he did want to coach due to health reasons. So whether that's true or not, it doesn't sound like he'll be accepting any HC job.
"The Austin American-Statesman reported last week, citing a source, that Meyer informed Texas officials he isn't pursuing another coaching position because of health issues."
December 12th, 2020 at 3:27 PM ^
Lmaooooo wut?
December 12th, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^
Once Urban turned them down they elected to just roll with Herman another year.
So essentially if they rolled with Harbaugh another year Matt Campbell will still be around, because clearly Texas isnt interested.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:46 PM ^
Or Campbell isn’t interested in Texas. As big of a job as Texas is, Campbell is a Midwestern guy with a Midwestern football staff. Similar to Chris Petersen just being a West Coast kind of guy.
Also the Herman buyout probably plays a big factor.
December 12th, 2020 at 8:07 PM ^
I think this is a case of economics. Herman's buyout is $15M and the buyout for his staff is another $10M. Texas feels like it would have been worth the $25M to buy out Herman if they can get Meyer to come but don't think it's worth it for Campbell or any another coach.
Manuel is playing this in a similar fashion in that he won't pay Harbaugh's $10M (plus whatever it is for the staff) buyout so either he takes an NFL job or comes back next year.
December 12th, 2020 at 3:27 PM ^
So UM would be the top job open if Warde does the right thing.
He won’t and Harbaugh will be back for another mediocre season.
December 12th, 2020 at 3:32 PM ^
UM won't be open if Warde does the right thing.
December 12th, 2020 at 6:17 PM ^
Mediocre?
So things are looking up, then?
December 12th, 2020 at 3:29 PM ^
This is basically the reverse of the George Constanza-shows-up-to-work-like-nothing-happened-after-quitting scenario.
"What's that, Tom? You thought we fired you? Ha, that's a good one!"
December 12th, 2020 at 3:42 PM ^
December 12th, 2020 at 3:54 PM ^
Apparently one Peach Bowl victory with Houston isn't the guarantee of future greatness that we thought it was.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:51 PM ^
Lol yea wasn't that the game against a Florida state team that looked like they didn't give a shit to be on the field?
December 12th, 2020 at 4:51 PM ^
Lol yea wasn't that the game against a Florida state team that looked like they didn't give a shit to be on the field?
December 12th, 2020 at 8:13 PM ^
Maybe he needs a new grill? Lol
December 12th, 2020 at 3:30 PM ^
Surprised they didn’t poke around Campbell.
December 12th, 2020 at 3:32 PM ^
Maybe Campbell told them he had his sights on a different position!! lol one can dream.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
Heard Texas isn't interested in him, which would be peak current Texas.
Their fans want the UTSA coach.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^
It would cost UT about $30-35M to buy out Herman's contract. Apparently, Campbell isn't worth that, but Meyer was. Not sure I can argue the logic here...
December 12th, 2020 at 4:17 PM ^
I guess so, but either way that is an insane buyout.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:29 PM ^
Wow. I don’t feel bad for Herman at all. Laughing all the way to the bank.
he’a and asahat so i do hope he is fuckin embarrassed and his ego took a big hit.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:33 PM ^
Have many head coaches gone directly from one team in their conference to another team in the same conference? I can't imagine wanting to compete against your former players.
December 12th, 2020 at 5:30 PM ^
Quite a few.
I understand your sentiment in terms of emotional attachment.
Otoh, from a tactical perspective, would absolutely like to coach a game where I had intimate knowledge of the strengths and weaknesses of every player on both sides of the ball.
Cheers.
December 12th, 2020 at 5:58 PM ^
"Quite a few."
That might be the case for other conferences, but I researched the history of Big Ten coaches and found that there are only three instances of coaches moving from one Big Ten team directly to another.
December 12th, 2020 at 6:45 PM ^
Then all the Fleck and Fitz fans for the UM job over the years didn’t have a chance. And Tom Tom also likely not ever to leave IU for A2.
December 12th, 2020 at 3:30 PM ^
More soup for us then
If Harbaugh leaves, we would be the highest profile job open then, yes? Franklin saved his season, USC is sticking with Helton, Kelly isn't going anywhere
Campbell's only options would be to stay at ISU or come to Michigan. This is the year to make a move, we would be the top open job without any competition. We're already knee deep in a rebuild anyway, just swap the coaches and take the head start you've been given
December 12th, 2020 at 3:54 PM ^
Yeah this is terrible news for Texas (though maybe with signing day coming up, they felt pressured to make a decision). I can see poking around Urban before going with Herman, but by doing so publicly, they've turned Herman into a lame duck which is both awkward and terrible for their prospects next year.
However, this should be good news for us if it means that Campbell has indicated he's not interested in Texas (or vice versa) and we're in active communication with him right now. This only becomes a disaster if we too re-sign Harbaugh, but way later in the cycle and after creating a ton of drama and uncertainty in the process.
So here's hoping Warde has actually been doing business behind closed doors and we're in the midst of a transition.
December 12th, 2020 at 6:30 PM ^
Campbell had NFL interest last season. So taking an NFL job is likely an option as well
December 12th, 2020 at 8:25 PM ^
I'm still hoping for Meyer. It's the one shot we can get back ahead of rivalry the next decade.
December 13th, 2020 at 12:12 AM ^
No. Just stop with the Meyer crap. I wouldn't be proud of our program with him as coach, even if we won the national title.
December 12th, 2020 at 3:33 PM ^
Maybe they dont want to return to their old glory?
Urban turned them down because he wants the Michigan job. Not an insider here, just a wishful thinker.
December 12th, 2020 at 3:46 PM ^
Definitely did not see him staying. Thought Ewers flipping to OSU was the nail in his coffin
December 12th, 2020 at 3:47 PM ^
This is not surprising, given that he has a Texas-sized buyout that is tough to eat during Covid times. But it's going to make for a very awkward next 12 months. Good time for other programs to do some recruiting in Texas.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:03 PM ^
Every program in the country is going to hit Texas HARD!
December 12th, 2020 at 3:55 PM ^
Nwm. Wrong thread.
December 12th, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^
Goes to show you ... There are dumber Regents across the country. What a way to hand-clamp your football team for multi-years.
December 12th, 2020 at 3:59 PM ^
Maybe Urbz told them he'd come in 2022.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:02 PM ^
Their fan base must be losing their minds right now. ?
December 12th, 2020 at 5:46 PM ^
Join the fucking club!
December 12th, 2020 at 4:03 PM ^
What a strange situation.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:08 PM ^
Ok cool hook em
December 12th, 2020 at 5:47 PM ^
I guess they couldn't.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:12 PM ^
Off topic but Georgia doesn't get enough shit for chasing off Fields just to keep Fromm. They'd be in the playoffs if they held onto him for this year. Might've been closer to LSU last year as well.
December 12th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^
For as much shit as Harbaugh gets about qbs (a lot of it deserved) I think someone said Georgia has had like 4 or 5 five star qbs since smart has been coach and they still haven't had one able to take them over the top
Mccarthy would only be the second five star Jim has had, and the first he's recruited to Michigan. That said, please fire him anyway
December 12th, 2020 at 6:36 PM ^
Hard to find a program that consistently does less with more than UGA
December 12th, 2020 at 7:29 PM ^
Georgia fans are also mad that it took Kirby this long to put in jt Daniels! His knee was cleared awhile ago and he's been practicing at full speed for months!
December 12th, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
Well, they tried to swing for the fences right in Herman's face and failed. This should be fun.