bamf_16

December 31st, 2022 at 8:20 PM ^

Yep. Jesse Minter puked all over himself today.

 

Tough to win when you throw a pick-6 in each half, but Minter’s defense gave up 5 touchdowns and a field goal.

 

I thought they pressed too much early in the 4th quarter; they did what we made fun of OSU for doing and we saw the same result.

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Brian Griese

December 31st, 2022 at 8:48 PM ^

It’s not the D’s fault the offense turned it over 3x. However, I thought I was watching a Don Brown game tonight. Why did we start going for broke again defensively? Seemed like every time the offense did get their shit together Minter gambled with aggressive blitzes and was torched. There was no need for it. If we had stuck with what has worked we probably win despite all of the other nonsense that took place. 

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Midukman

January 1st, 2023 at 5:50 AM ^

I just stared at the wall for an hour after the game trying to process what I just watched. Cover 0 and letting receivers run untouched. The O kept kneecapping the D, but being pulled into playing a big 12 shootout was something I never saw coming. Hindsight’s 20/20 but that was just not a good gameplan. If TCU knocks off Georgia I’ll feel better, but it’s gonna take minute to forget this one. 

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BoFan

January 1st, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^

We did based on the score, but the B12 plays a 3 3 5, not a cover 0. 
 

I agree it’s hard to justify the high risk cover 0 and blitzball packages we saw in the second half.  But rather than just criticize them with hindsight, I wonder what the staff (which includes hundreds of years of collective top football experience more than what’s voiced on here) saw that causes these adjustments. 

Hindsight allows us to be critical of the game plans and adjustments.  But all our analysts and coaches saw a lot of film over the last month and something caused these adjustments from the bend dont break we’ve played all year.  It would be interesting to hear from the football minds on here if they only look at this from the pre-game perspective. 
 

It’s also interesting that, if we stuck with the bend dont break throughout this game and still lost, many on the board here would be complaining about the lack of adjustments for a B12 offense.   And if we won this game (which was lost by the offense being responsible for a shift of 28 points), then human tendencies would suggest we would be complaining about a few big-play mistakes but probably try to justify them as a necessary part of the game plan. 

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stephenrjking

December 31st, 2022 at 9:02 PM ^

This is something that might become clearer when the dust settles. It's bizarre...

But what is our personnel and game-state situation? If Michigan needs possessions to come back in a game but keeps playing a shell that allows TCU to just pick up 8 yards a play and run clock, that's a problem (and Michigan was plumbing the depths of the LB chart and no Mason Graham, etc). 

It's possible he was told "go high-risk, we need a high-variance game in the second half to win" at halftime... and never drew back from that when the game was there early in the 4th.

Or maybe he just lost his mind.

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Mgoblue0205

January 1st, 2023 at 12:27 PM ^

That's not really TCUs style though to go 8-12 play drives. Not blitzing despite Duggan having time to throw was working out just fine. The guy was something like 8-21 before we went all blitz happy. Even with all of the silly offensive mistakes, I think Michigan wins the game if they didn't go all OSU Knowles on defense. You can't blitz like that unless you're sporting a pair or trio of Will Johnsons. Turner for all his speed has average ball skills/tackling. Not only that, but Turner should've known on that particular play(The Johnston out pattern and TD) that he was the last line of defense. If you're going to miss a tackle in that situation, at least make Johnston have to cut back inside and we don't give up a TD. That was a pathetic attempt at a tackle by Turner.

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Goggles Paisano

January 1st, 2023 at 7:34 AM ^

It was a full collective effort of offensive playcalling, defensive playcalling, and player mistakes.  Very baffling performance by all and all in the same game.  Our DL generated zero pass rush which made it easy for Duggan to find an open receiver or a hole to run thru.  I think that created a need in Minter's mind to go full Knowles.  That 76yd TD on 3rd and 7 was the play of the game and falls fully on Minter.  

 

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Ham

December 31st, 2022 at 8:05 PM ^

Kept doing stuff that didn’t work when Michigan was in position to get back in the game or even take the lead. Minter failed hard in the 2nd half.

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jsquigg

January 1st, 2023 at 2:23 AM ^

Uh, it was both. I don't understand why we were going for broke. As mentioned, I don't know if injuries or something else led to the over aggression, but it made no sense. Blitzes from depth suck every time IMO. They also shifted the LBs late into unsound run blitzes that got burned. Just play the fucking game that got you there. Honestly, the Minter game plan bothered me more than anything because it felt like an abandonment of their identity.  

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ak47

January 1st, 2023 at 12:39 AM ^

Why are people ignoring game situation? You can’t play bend but don’t break down multiple scores in the second half. The 76 yard touchdown didn’t catch a perfect play call. The blitz delivered pressure and forced a throw to a guy behind the line of scrimmage with a guy to make a tackle. Yes it was high variance but sometimes your guys have to make a play. Turner wasn’t trying to make a heroic tackle from an impossible angle, it was just a bad missed tackle 

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jsquigg

January 1st, 2023 at 2:27 AM ^

Hard fucking disagree. It was 3rd and 7. They blitzed from depth which left no safety help. It was a 3 point game with plenty of fucking time left and he ran a Jim Knowles blitz. By all means blitz, but disguise it and don't leave their best player one on one where a miss equals a score, not just a first down or a chunk. I challenge you to watch the play again. Turner had a ton of ground to make up and didn't have a great angle to make the tackle. Would've been nice to have Moore over the top instead of running an impossible blitz.

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4th phase

December 31st, 2022 at 8:09 PM ^

Honestly only 2 plays that I'm mad about from the defense.

 

I'm getting negged so I'll just explain. Defense gave up 37 points. 2 plays go better and they give up only 27. Is anyone honestly mad at a defense giving up 27 points to a very good offense?

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