bronxblue

February 14th, 2018 at 6:06 PM ^

You see a man tame Nick Saban's ego enough to field some dynamic offenses while still showing ball security and consistency, and you call him an offensive genius.

You see that same man then turn a middling, moribund Mountain West program into an offensive dynamo that crushes all comers, and you call him a coach on the rise.

You see that same man go to a beleagured SEC program and, not for nothing, win two division championships, and you call him a solid coach navigating a difficult situation.

But hump ONE shark, and...

 

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Jim HarBo

February 14th, 2018 at 6:20 PM ^

It's amazing how people let the peter principal affect their overall view of somebody when in their previous/lesser role they had nothing but success.  Usually, the issue is more around having that person realize they won't be that next level again.

Fwiw, I would be fine if in 2019 or beyond we brought back Hoke has a D-Line coach if Mattison were to retire.  I doubt he'd ever do it, but if he was willing I'd be excited about it.

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Red is Blue

February 15th, 2018 at 8:49 AM ^

His shortcomings as a HC should not be held against him since we hired him as an offensive assistant and he has a reasonable good track record as an offensive assitant.

Same would apply to Hoke if he was brought back as a d line coach.

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FrozeMangoes

February 14th, 2018 at 7:21 PM ^

I would like the hire.  I feel like his issues at FL were more discipline related than coaching or finding talent. 


Dude was putting up with points with Grier then get got popped and transfered.  Best WR couldnt stay out of trouble, then the whole fiasco this off-season.  

I mean I wouldn't want the guy running the disciplinary realm of a program but I don't think he has a problem putting up points when he can get his guys on the field (which he shouldnt have a problem with here) (knock on wood).

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Wolfman

February 14th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^

but I am somewhat puzzled. That is due because he has the same offensive philosophy as Harbaugh's. He likes a tough ass, well balanced offense with a good mixture of both running and passing and when he has those two elements working, surprise, much like Harbaugh's his offense goes well. He's had periods where he had an excellent rushing attack, mixed with a nice passing attack and success. When that is not available, and its not surprising, he struggles. Actually, his struggles, as you all seen were every bit the equal of ours.' 

But yes, he does have a good offensive mind as does JH. Both are proving well the axiom of the Jimmys and the Joes. It would not surprse me if we get good qb play that he would receive a lot of the credit due to nothing more than timing and regardless of what he is hired as, he will be participating in Harbaugh's offense, something the ofensive players outside the receivers will be practicing for their third season. So yes, I think there will be success; the better the qb play, the better the entire offense works. 

Just wanted to make certain that you were aware the numbers he did throw up at CSU were when he had a good rushing attack and qb play that was among the best in that conference. If we get that, the results, as shown without ever really having a rushing attack that scares opposing defenses, our offense can be pretty damn good with decent qb and receiver play. I anticipate that this season and if one our RBs wants to move from the ordinary to among the top of the leauge, I think -and it doesn't matter if its JH, JM, Pep or Drevno who has the title - this offense will move forward nicely this season. This staff has done good with good players. If they get great play, this staff will do great work. 

You might see some RPO, etc., but if we do it will because the coaches - final say, the Big Guy - has determined the team is ready to move forward with its inclusion. Expect to see smash mouth, timely passing and if successful, the offense by nature, will become more imaginative because the players will be more capable. SAT. 

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mfan92

February 14th, 2018 at 8:22 PM ^

Has 2 national titles as an OC. Coaching at bama and Florida he has to have some recruiting connections down south. Anything to help us get over the hump will work for me

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Don

February 14th, 2018 at 8:45 PM ^

he's out the door as soon as he gets a better offer.

If he doesn't do well, he's out the door as soon as JH makes somebody else a better offer.

Either way, the revolving door will continue to revolve.

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Wolverine62bc

February 14th, 2018 at 9:23 PM ^

Think the pros are: Experienced play caller Knows SEC and, more importantly, Bama’s system - what’s that intel worth? Senior already in OC role for college ranks, natural to lead 2 others that make a lot of pesos To get back to P5 HC, a “natty” would be in order - Indyor just the playoffs will not be enough Cons: Recruiting, oh well - coach just got 2 more that’ll be road warriors, need a good play caller! Short UM shelf life - well, get us the hardware first Likes ocean fish, oh well Nuss-we’ve been there and saw what happened to 2 of our beloved Go Blue!

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