Shitty ass endings to both major sports negbang
we don't pay players or recruit felons and/or rapists. limits our ability to get the 5*'s that the world craves. oh yeah, and we don't use banned PED's ala clemson.
that should sum up the relevant barriers to football superiority.
Either show the proof that Bama is paying players or drop the lame tired excuses, it’s embarrassing. We’ve had our own share of sexual assault issues so you can drop that excuse too. The fact is we don’t recruit well because we don’t win and players quit on the team the last two years, that not exciting for 4 and 5 star recruits. You can make up you pathetic excuses or, If you’ve watched a game you could stop being an apologist and realize 4/5 star recruits don’t wont to play for us unless they are a fullback. Our Offense is boring, predictable and stuck in the 70’s. That may change this year but it sure as hell has impacted recruiting. Those players don’t have to be paid to go to Bama, they go because they are innovative and they win. OSU is bringing in top offensive talent because they are setting school records through the air and have had 2 RB’s at the 1000 yard mark. Wake up. As stated, show some proof of payment, reduce your cognitive dissonance regarding our player scandals or stfu and realize we are boring and predictable with a coach gaining the reputation of not being fun to work for and if we don’t change that we will be another two decades of making up excuses that don’t hold water.
god, what a annoying manbaby.
so not losing our shit over a season that ended two games before what would have made it a huge success is "clinging to mediocrity?" fuck off.
F you Matty. Yea I’m a little salty at the 13-7 second half of the season, it was garbage. I don’t care that we lost to TT, I kinda care that we lost be a record large margin for our seed. Ps, when you cite 2 games you’re forgetting the B1G tourney game we didn’t play.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:16 AM ^
We were, but the tea leaves were reading Winston to Sparty. That's why he pulled the trigger on Z. After getting burned before, I can't fault him.
Either way, Winston wouldn't have made a difference. When you go 1-19 from 3-point range, you're not winning the IM Independent league.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:23 AM ^
Have you seen what Winston has done with that MSU team? Michigan would not have gone 1-19 from 3 tonight if Winston was playing.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:29 AM ^
I don't think 6-19 would have made much of a difference. TT played better than us.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:33 AM ^
I don't think Michigan would have won tonight with Winston, but they would have had a puncher's chance against TT.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:34 AM ^
Lol dude, Winston single handedly brought Tom Izzo into the 21st century.
He would've kept us in the game by actually hitting a 3 in the first half. The team's morale completely broke down within the first 3 minutes of the second half.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:41 AM ^
That's not true at all. The past like 4 years they've had the highest assist % in the NCAA, hovering around 70% (warriors are around there).
I know 2016 wasn't a great year for us, and it ended hilariously for MSU, but MSU had a very modern offense in 2016.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:50 AM ^
Winston was his PG for 3 of those years.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:49 AM ^
Revisionist history at it's finest. Winston was a Michigan lean when Z committed.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:47 AM ^
Just a reminder that TheCube/Maizen/Old98/Diagonal Blue/Hei2man/Bluey/Shawn L Martin has never liked Beilein or Simpson. He called Simpson a bust two years ago when he was calling for Beilein to be fired (ironically, in part due to poor defense, but he was also critical of Beilein not recruiting "inner city players"). So when things go rough, he brings out a couple of accounts and pretends that he didn't disappear when Michigan won B1G tournaments and made the Final last year.
Since posts like this are really roundabout ways of him trying to say "I told you so" without admitting who he is or that he was flat wrong, they look kind of funny. But that's why you see the curious repetition in his arguments.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:51 AM ^
Someone get this old fuck off the internet.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:58 AM ^
Shouldn't be hard to pull off. Unlike you, I only have one account.
Prove it. Oh wait you can't, you old fuck.
these two posts definitely earn this account of yours a banning. shame on you.
Yeah I'm not Maizen. It would be mad impressive if one person were to simultaneously post with 2-3 accounts all in the same night tho.
March 29th, 2019 at 11:15 AM ^
Impressive having multiple Internet browsers? No, not at all. Please go away.
Yeah I'm not Maizen. It would be mad impressive if one person were to simultaneously post with 2-3 accounts all in the same night tho.
Thank you!
March 29th, 2019 at 12:08 AM ^
At least we have players on the football field. The coaching has been the issue there.
with basketball, this team somehow forgot how to shoot during the holiday break. Hopefully some of the young guys make the “Coach B Leap” next year. In Coach B I trust.
No rbs, except maybe charbonnet
March 29th, 2019 at 12:11 AM ^
The answer is better offensive players. Gotta have guys who can score while guarded well. Also, too many bad decision makers out there and too many guys with subpar skills. PG who can't shoot, SF who can't dribble, and only one good passer on the team.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:27 AM ^
Brazdeikis is above 40%, Livers was 45% before going very, very cold in the tournament, and Poole is an okay 37%. Assuming those 3 guys start next year, Beilein just has to get them to get some assists and his system will get back to normal.
I definitely think these guys can score.
Iggy showed several times this season the capability of just going off and scoring a bunch of points.
I think Coach B will find a way to get these guys the ball in more favorable scoring situations next season. He has all off season to examine some of the issues that were present for this season and adjust.
I think the Big 10 better get used to seeing Iggy flex.
I think Iggy is leaving after one year. I think he's struggling academically and is ready to go - even to Europe to play.
Too bad, as we need his potential next year.
oh spare me. you have no fucking idea if he’s struggling academically. none.
They shoot well, but they need to be assisted. To do that, you need guys that can do more.
It's not like Beilein has somehow failed; he has built a good team with the players he has. But there are things they can't do this year. Nobody can win one-on-one consistently against mismatches; 3-5 are all below-average passers, which means that double-teams against them shut down the offense and force misses, turnovers, or full resets; Simpson can get into the lane but can't score well from there (his hook shots, today aside, are a great weapon, but he uses those from the baseline outside the lane and they don't pull defenders off of other players).
Poole gets too much flack, but there's a reason for it: This team would look a lot different with a 2 guard that could either dominate by driving to the hoop, or create his own 3 and hit it 40-45% of the time. Poole does neither of those things. His 37% 3-point shooting is weighted toward assisted shots, just like Iggy and Livers. The stuff he tosses up from NBA+ range or from stepbacks is considerably worse.
The upshot here is that there is nobody that is terrifying in the pick-and-roll. There are guys who are pretty good, but nobody that can take over a game the way guys like Walton, Stauskas, Levert, and Burke have in the past.
If Iggy comes back he could grow into that player. Maybe Poole takes the next step. But this year we didn't have that kind of guy.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:06 AM ^
My bad. I said it couldn't get any worse in the 2nd half. I was wrong.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:06 AM ^
Worst performance I have ever seen from Michigan basketball but I love them and we'll be back next year.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:17 AM ^
You weren’t around for the Ellerbe or Amaker years, were you.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:22 AM ^
Worst in a while. JB needs to find some new O plays. Just need guys who can score & actually shoot.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:32 AM ^
That offensive performance was Ellerbe esque, honest to god. This was about as bad as losing to MSU 114-63.
It was actually worse from a pure stats standpoint. Not sure about the PPP though.
https://michstate_ftp.sidearmsports.com/custompages/sports/m-baskbl/stats/030400aaa.html
March 29th, 2019 at 12:07 AM ^
Our offense sucked dick. That is all.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:07 AM ^
Yerp.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:07 AM ^
Now time to watch MSU win a natty and feel even worse
March 29th, 2019 at 12:14 AM ^
They'll win a natty with a player that should be playing for Michigan... in Cassius Winston. Ugh.
I know you’d said you weren’t, but you are definitely Maizen.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:56 AM ^
On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind seeing Purdue continue to light it up and make a real run at it. It was a fun game to watch tonight against Tennessee.
I think they have a legit shot at beating Virginia.
Meanwhile, MSU has a tough matchup against a very strong LSU team tomorrow night, and if they make it past them, they’ll likely face Duke. Izzo’s record against Coach K is common knowledge at this point.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:07 AM ^
Henri needs to be on the front page after that horse shit fuck fest.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:07 AM ^
That game was a travesty from the get go. I had really hoped that this team would make a deeper run.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:07 AM ^
Just enjoy it. Who cares that Michigan will never win another championship in a sport that anyone cares about.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:09 AM ^
You didnt like the Big Ten tourney title last year?
March 29th, 2019 at 12:37 AM ^
Yea when we think championship we think a Natty, not a conference that you SHOULD win every 3 years or so. What happened this year? We get racked by MSU during the reg season and they bounced us from the B1g tourney = we regressed. Let’s just be happy that Sparty owned us and OSU beat us by a historic margin because at least we get our participation trophy’s.
PS. The suckeys have the 12th ranked 2019 b-ball class with an average ranking over 98, buckle up because while we stand still or regress the rest of the conference is just getting better. Welcome to the coming d case of “pretty good”. You can grab that participation trophy while I go puke in the corner
March 29th, 2019 at 12:47 AM ^
we blew the doors off north carolina, villanova, and purdue in the first half of the season, but losing to sparty and to a really good texas tech team means we “regressed” and the window has closed.
youre an idiot.
F u, you’re an IDIOT if you are too ignorant to see that the first half of a season doesn’t mean shit. How did we do the second half of the season champ?? Go feel good about how amazing we were in November and our Dec 1 season peak when we beat Purdue. PS, we didn’t lose to a really good TT team. They are good and lost most of their scoring last year, we had a record setting loss for our seeding and missed the over under by 20 points. It’s not a loss, it was a disgrace. Idiot.
you think beilein or any of the players are using the word “disgrace?” of course not. the only people using that word are whining entitled assholes like yourself who see every loss as a personal affront, and for whom every bad shooting night or bad afternoon passing the ball by a quarterback or running the football is yet another example of “not demanding the best,” or some other bullshit.
news flash - you’re not being ‘’honest” or “realistic.” you’re just being a dick. i can say with absolute certainty that nobody wants to be around you at a game. or on a message board, really.
March 29th, 2019 at 12:50 AM ^
You’re an absolute moron.