Shea Reportedly Injured In First MTSU Snap. Will Still Start Saturday.
Word is Shea had a minor injury on his fumble but will be fine for Saturday. I do recall him seeming uncomfortable out there. More reason to take the slow start with a grain of salt
September 4th, 2019 at 10:43 AM ^
I'm old enough to remember when the most Michigan thing ever was coming out in the third quarter down a couple of touchdowns, and coming back to win every damn time.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:54 AM ^
Ricky Powers fumbles would also fit into this category.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:59 AM ^
Have to disagree. I feel like the "most Michigan thing ever" is having a 10 point 3rd quarter lead, a 3-7 point fourth quarter lead, and then losing by a field goal.
The 2004 Rose Bowl. That was The Most Michigan Thing Ever.
September 4th, 2019 at 11:27 AM ^
I'm old enough to remember games from the 80's and Wendy is right.
September 4th, 2019 at 4:30 PM ^
I can't tell you how many times we said at halftime, "We're a third quarter team," and we were right. This is when Harbaugh was qb.
September 4th, 2019 at 1:58 PM ^
Or Miami (YTM) back in the day.
September 4th, 2019 at 12:48 PM ^
Yeah, I'm that old too. Would have never thought those would be the good old days.
I'm pretty excited about this team, they seemed loose on the sidelines and not as stressed to when mistakes were made.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:25 AM ^
Let's just hope this isn't something that lingers all season.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:27 AM ^
Real effects to performance from real hits never happen in the video games.
Therefore I'll still judge players from the video game standpoint because their level of guts are always at 110%... until they're not.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:30 AM ^
Army is not a team to sleep on. They won’t be intimidated by our crowd, and the offense they run is very difficult to stop. If Shea comes out and isn’t his normal self I would insert McCaffery immediately. I know that fan bases are often guilty of backup QB syndrome but I really like Dylan McCaffrey and obviously the coaching staff does as well. Dylan has never been given the chance to get in a rhythm. We need Shea healthy and we shouldn’t really need him for this game. I think it’s the perfect time to see what DCaff can do.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:38 AM ^
He was given a 10 play drive and they basically had him run the ball every time.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:44 AM ^
Looking at his career stats, he now has a total of 17 passes and 18 runs.
He did complete both his passes on Saturday. Let's hope he gets a lot of playing time in the second half after Shea puts up a big lead.
(A man can dream, can't he?)
September 4th, 2019 at 11:22 AM ^
Which is exactly why I want to see him get a start. Harbaugh has publicly said he will play both QBs in every game this season. That essentially means he thinks DCaff is right there with Shea. All I’m saying is that I want to see what McCaffery is capable of when the game is in the balance.
September 4th, 2019 at 12:03 PM ^
We went through this exact same thing with Speight and JOK. They have practices and training camp for a reason and those said Shea is better. The fact that when Dylan does get in, he is a runner most of the time, should give you even more reason to believe he is a very promising #2 QB
September 4th, 2019 at 12:46 PM ^
John O'Korn started against Rutgers at home and couldn't complete a pass unless it was to Rutgers. This was on the heels of, like, 3 or 4 bad games.Then Brandon Peters came in to relieve O'Korn and didn't come off again until he got knocked out at Wisconsin.
Sometimes coaches start the wrong guy.
That said, I think Shea is the better QB right now.
September 4th, 2019 at 12:34 PM ^
If Shea needs to heal, fine. But what does it say to the team when you start the backup QB when the starter is ready to play? They know which QB is performing better in practice.
If Michigan ends up in a dogfight with Army, we'll all be saying the coaches and/or players took Army too lightly. That kind of decision would be the proof of it.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:45 AM ^
This post is everything I want in a comment section wrapped into one.
"Army is not a team to sleep on"......followed by....."We need Shea healthy and we shouldn't really need him in this game"
"They won't be intimidated by our crowd and the offense they run is difficult to stop"......"I think it's the perfect time to see what DCaff(Is this a nickname we are going with??) can do"
Never change fans.
September 4th, 2019 at 11:07 AM ^
Is that difficult-to-stop offense the same one that hung 14 points on Rice? The #112 scoring defense from 2018?
September 4th, 2019 at 11:19 AM ^
I know that fan bases are often guilty of backup QB syndrome but"
But I am going to do the same thing.
September 4th, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^
This totally. It's the classic "disclaimer, but." Other examples include:
- Not to be a jerk, but...
- Not that I'm racist, but...
- Not that you're wrong, but...
- I'm not trying to offend you, but...
- It's lame when other people do it, but...
September 4th, 2019 at 2:22 PM ^
A wizardly one point neg to you. Invisible neg.
September 4th, 2019 at 2:27 PM ^
You are aware that Army struggled to beat Rice, one of the worst college football teams at present, AT HOME, right?
September 4th, 2019 at 10:30 AM ^
Right before the half he took a big shot in his back. I thought that was the one that lingered with him.
Overall, I thought he took too many hits in this game. He'll go down for a game or more if that continues.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:47 AM ^
That is the hit I remember as well. And then he was messing with his rib-cage pads and grimacing shortly after.
The tweet says 'Couldn’t use lower body throughout the game, but should be ready to go barring any setbacks.' but his lower body seemed just fine on all of those carries he had. The whole thing seems a little off, if you ask me.
I don't doubt he was dinged up but I'm not sold it was on the first play.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:33 AM ^
That explains all of the McCaffery runs. Harbaugh said something like he wanted to get those plays and since Shea wasn't playing, he gave the carries to Dylan.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:36 AM ^
Slow start? And if by "slow start" you mean exactly 100% the opposite of what that term means then yes, by all means.
He threw 25 passes and had three TDs with no interceptions by halftime. Can you tell me exactly what you were hoping to see if the first 30 minutes of the game that he didnt deliver on?
September 4th, 2019 at 10:40 AM ^
I mean, Shea wasn’t flawless, so probably that.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:47 AM ^
Six touchdowns on twelve to thirteen passes in the first 15 minutes!
September 4th, 2019 at 10:53 AM ^
He was only on pace for like 500 total yards and 6 passing touchdowns at halftime. PATHETIC.
September 4th, 2019 at 11:24 AM ^
" Can you tell me exactly what you were hoping to see if the first 30 minutes of the game that he didnt deliver on? "
1) Ball security - fumble lost combined with putting the ball on the ground 3-4 other times at the mesh
2) Accuracy/timing on downfield throws - still too many receivers having to wait on deep throws
3) Some poor reads in the run game
September 4th, 2019 at 12:30 PM ^
McCaffrey put the ball on the ground as well, we just happened to recover that one.
He was also under center when we couldn't punch the ball in from the one yard line on 4th down.
If you're going to nitpick every little miscue in Patterson's day, make sure that analysis extends to both QBs.
Fucking Michigan fans....
September 4th, 2019 at 1:46 PM ^
How about when McCaffrey tried to take on three or four defenders on the sideline near the goal line and got himself slammed to the ground in the process...
September 4th, 2019 at 3:36 PM ^
Patterson, without a doubt, played better than McCaffrey.
Patterson played well - but not great... and some of the issues in this game were issues he has struggled with last year and at Ole Miss.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:43 AM ^
No way. I'll believe he was injured late in the 2nd quarter, because that's when things started falling apart.
I'll stick by my attitude of "this game was like a TD pass that hit us in the hands but we dropped it". I also didn't enjoy seeing us shut down the offense midway through the 3rd quarter. But if Shea is good to go for Saturday, that's only good news.
September 4th, 2019 at 11:30 AM ^
Sliding sets him up to get blasted in he head if the defense doesn’t let up in time.
September 4th, 2019 at 10:50 AM ^
I wouId have thought the injury came when he got smoked on a blindside blitz at the end of the half. IIRC he missed like 8 passes in a row after that hit.
September 4th, 2019 at 11:57 AM ^
Exasperated the condition.
September 4th, 2019 at 12:24 PM ^
he started messing with his rib protector after that hit, I think those ribs got peppered up
September 4th, 2019 at 11:03 AM ^
SLIDE!
September 4th, 2019 at 11:11 AM ^
FWIW, the sole source of the "information" about Shea being injured on the first play from scrimmage?
Bleacher Report.
If you click on the OP's link you'll see that the maizenbrew.com writer embedded a tweet from BleacherReport.com writer Matt Miller.
September 4th, 2019 at 11:12 AM ^
The link also mentions Jess Speight earning a scholarship. I can report that I saw his big brother Wilton walking up the aisle of Section 24 during the first half.
September 4th, 2019 at 11:55 AM ^
Slide, Shea, Slide...and throw it away once in awhile.
September 4th, 2019 at 12:31 PM ^
Sam Webb reported that the hit occurred in the 3rd quarter and somehow impacted his ability to run until he got some attention. He came back in the game so can't be that serious, but his lack of production was really caused by the coaches backing off the speed in space attack and turning to the run. Shea was 2-9 in the second half, but I recall at least 3 of those incompletions were WR drops not bad throws.
Shea is the starter, period, unless too injured to be effective. McCaffery usage looks to be change of pace for the "close out" package of 2nd half run plays. Coaches don't want Shea to take those hits and Dylan's skill set is better suited to that option run game. We haven't yet seen Dylan execute the RPO but it is likely coming at some point when he is ready.
BTW, thought Shea was very effective in the first half when the accelerator was on for speed in space. Shea is the guy we need to make this spread offense hum. The fumble was a fluke.
September 4th, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^
fumbling on the 1st play from scrimmage can cause some bruising ...to one's ego
having two competent and reliable QB's is a luxury that should be celebrated/embraced
September 4th, 2019 at 2:49 PM ^
Yeah it was either the 2nd or 3rd drive, my guess is bruised ribs. Not too sure though.
September 4th, 2019 at 3:20 PM ^
I like McCaffrey a lot but Patterson's passing game is clearly more developed. Unless Shea is hurt he should get an overwhelming majority of the snaps as he gives us a better chance to win.
I'm just happy that we have a backup who would be the starter at a lot of other schools.
September 4th, 2019 at 3:21 PM ^
Just curious as to why the OP capitalized every word in the title.
September 4th, 2019 at 7:50 PM ^
This is why I didn't love how much Gattis was running both QBs. Not at all saying they should be pocket passers, but no need to needlessly roll the dice against low-level opponents and I hope we see fewer designed QB runs into the heart of the defense against Army.
September 4th, 2019 at 8:48 PM ^
I have no problem with them giving more time to Dmac and resting Shea . We have a long season to go . I think Dmac can do it, but id be happier with Shea available and 100 % for the bigger games .
September 5th, 2019 at 1:56 PM ^
Was it his ego?