NittanyFan

May 31st, 2023 at 11:31 PM ^

If nothing else, 1 Wolverine in California is one more than the 0 Grizzly Bears living in California.  The animal on the state flag doesn't even live here any more!

I'm kind of surprised more wolverines don't live around Tahoe.  The environment is favorable for them.

JetFuelForBreakfast

May 31st, 2023 at 11:40 PM ^

The advent of game cams has changed (most) everything, except the acceptance that what we thought we knew about wildlife was misplaced.

In Central Southern Michigan, there ARE mountain lions (pumas / panthers), bears, bobcats, wolverines, etc.  If you argue this, you are flatly wrong, because we have seen them on our (or our neighbor's) cams within a mile of our home.

I know it's brutal for myriad academics to accept their convictions may have been wrong, but sadly, sometimes reality conflicts with what we thought was true.

XM - Mt 1822

June 1st, 2023 at 6:16 AM ^

the DNR recently admitted to mountain lions in michigan after denying it for decades.  my favorite story about that though, years before the DNR became truthful, comes from a fishing guide buddy of ours.  he is a drift/fly fishing guide on the manistee river, and his cryptic quote was:

"i'm not saying there are mountain lions.  i'm not saying there aren't mountain lions.  i'm just saying i saw a deer carcass 20' up in a tree...." 

St Joe Blues

June 1st, 2023 at 8:16 AM ^

I'm not saying there are mountain lions in Michigan but...I used to deer hunt south of Watervliet a few miles. In 2005, one of the nearby farms lost a horse to a predator that wasn't a pack of coyotes. The Berrien County sheriff said it was a mountain lion but the DNR refused to acknowledge there was anything amiss. I think their stance was if it was a mountain lion, it was a released pet.

https://www.leaderpub.com/2005/12/21/berrien-site-of-second-cougar-attack-on-horse/

Then a few years later, I talked to a prominent retired law enforcement officer from Coloma (the next town over) who investigated reports of, and heard himself, a women screaming in the woods, you know, like a mountain lion in heat?

SalvatoreQuattro

June 1st, 2023 at 9:55 AM ^

They don’t believe that there is a breeding population as all the ones they have seen are males. I am almost certain that will change as it seems unlikely that only males have made the trek from Northern Minnesota and Wisconsin to the UP to now it appears southern Michigan.

Apparently one was seen in Lenawee a few years back. Which is cool and eep!

CFraser

June 1st, 2023 at 6:44 AM ^

Crazy how such a strong animal (survival wise) is endangered but that’s mostly from hunting them. I have a taxidermied one (really well done) and the fur is exquisite. I get it back in the day (demand for fur); but now that we’ve left them alone, I’m a little surprised they haven’t bounced back but that’s likely climate related. Still, an awesome animal and great mascot for football. 

Booted Blue in PA

June 1st, 2023 at 8:18 AM ^

There were several Wolverine sightings as far south as columbus ohio last fall.... they left a path of total devistation there as well, not quite to the degree of the Donner Party, but not far from it.