Scathing article by Michael Spath on program culture
Take it fwiw.
In the August of 2019, first-year offensive coordinator Josh Gattis jokingly references his starting quarterback spending too much time on the golf course during the summer, a comment that carried much more serious undertones behind the scenes. In fact, the players send a message, not electing senior Shea Patterson captain.
"There wasn't a lot we could do because Shea was our starting quarterback, but we wanted to let him and our coaches know we weren't happy with his work in the summer - both Joe [Milton] and Dylan [McCaffrey] outworked him, and then Coach immediately went against our decision and named him a captain," a recent departure shared. "Guys weren't happy."
As a former player noted the beginning of the end for the Brady Hoke regime was when Hoke and his staff began playing favorites and giving leeway to certain players, including Devin Funchess, that they didn't give to the entire team.
"He'd let Funchess get away with stuff in practice and in games ... he wasn't held accountable, and that created a lot of locker room issues," the player shared.
• Within days of the captain announcement, facing speculation in the media and among the fan base of discontent within the ranks, Harbaugh named Patterson and senior safety Josh Metellus alternate captains.
"From the moment Shea arrived, he was treated differently, like he could never do anything wrong," another recent exiting player shared with WolverineDigest.com. "Wilton [Speight], John [O'Korn], Brandon [Peters] would all get chewed out for things that they just looked the other way with when it came to Shea."
January 16th, 2020 at 5:19 PM ^
Did he sell his sole soul or his shoe sole?
January 16th, 2020 at 7:13 PM ^
It was probably this boys soul.
January 16th, 2020 at 7:49 PM ^
I know a very successful high school football coach who has sent players to multiple schools including Michigan with a former player currently on the team.
He has told me multiple times something very similar - no meritocracy, in fact favored players with NFL futures get special treatment in such a way that it hurts team morale and undermines team efforts to work hard and achieve
January 17th, 2020 at 1:26 AM ^
January 17th, 2020 at 7:00 AM ^
I know a turtle in the pond on my property that said the same thing. Sickening, really.
I'll take all of this anonymous information and slide it right off my desk into the garbage can.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:04 PM ^
It seems like one problem with a 5 star QB transfer that you really need is that there is a tendency to pamper him once he gets here.
January 16th, 2020 at 6:42 PM ^
I wonder if coach started straying from meritocracy and favoring Shea because of a deal he had to cut to get Shea here due to not being able to compete with other programs bagmen type stuff. That would put coach in a tough spot.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:06 PM ^
I'm not saying what is wrote is true or untrue, but there isnt a program out there that gets more attention (mostly negative) than Michigan and Harbaugh. How many articles have been written just in the last few weeks about the culture of the program, recruiting issues, staff problems, etc? Its been this way since Harbaugh got here. He came in with a great enthusiasm towards the college game and instead of embracing it, there were new rules and bylaws enacted and the media jumps on him at every turn. They cant remember jack shit about 50 other coaches but they can spit out (insert record under Harbaugh here) without even looking at notes. I'm not an apologist and I've not been happy with everything in his time here, but damn this shit gets old hearing it all season and offseason.
January 17th, 2020 at 12:11 AM ^
It is because of so many alumni and fans.... the spotlight isn't brighter anywhere else... so the same amount of attention will be paid, good or bad.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:07 PM ^
Prediction: people bash Spath in this thread so they can pretend what he's saying is not true even though it is. It's the Michigan fanboy playbook.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:13 PM ^
Yeah, people can be so predictable.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:25 PM ^
He won’t get it but well played.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:24 PM ^
Spath got a quote from one player leaving...so trash the whole program! Yea!! Loser
January 16th, 2020 at 5:34 PM ^
January 16th, 2020 at 5:49 PM ^
Your mom is in the Michigan fanboy playbook.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:07 PM ^
Idk man, this might be a story with an agenda but I'll be damned if there isn't at least an element of truth to it. Pure speculation, but I think Shea was not at all where he should've been starting the season performance-wise, but there was something that kept Harbaugh from pulling him until the absolute shit-show that was the Wisconsin game.
I still hold that DCaff would've taken over as starter had he not been hurt against Wisconsin. Let's hope the staff gets their shit together and doesn't play the favorites game, that's how you lose a team and flounder as a program no matter how much talent you have.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:37 PM ^
Didn't Shea have an oblique injury his first 4-5 games this year? He didn't play well, but how much of that is prep and how much was being hurt is impossible to know unless you're Shea or Harbaugh.
January 16th, 2020 at 7:00 PM ^
Save it with the injury bull shit.
January 16th, 2020 at 9:21 PM ^
Again , the players I talked with said they never say Shea receive treatment this fall. They were in the treatment room for minor injuries themselves. I call complete bs, it’s Jim’s narrative to save face. There are wide receivers on the team who were always hurt too, I’m sure you can guess which ones.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:08 PM ^
I do not trust Spath or his news. I do not think he has much insider info. There may be some truth here but it is undoubtedly a stretch. I used to follow him on Twitter but he would get suicidal after losses. If you listen to his show you can learn about real estate from Alex or his workout at Orangetheory. Zach Shaw is much better.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:11 PM ^
STARTING QB GETS SPECIAL TREATMENT.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:14 PM ^
Click bait, after the fact narrative garbage. Stick to clothing and memorabilia posts.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:19 PM ^
I think the only thing that really speaks to a culture issue here is the part about Shea. Clearly not well liked by his teammates and I had heard the same things around campus while he was here.
As far as coaches leaving, nfl draft declaring, transfers, I think that’s just kind of the game now. At a certain level I think that it speaks to general program disfunction which I’m sure there is.
Take for example the DPJ bullet, he talks about how the staff didn’t utilize Jabrill Peppers and Rashan Gary appropriately. Peppers had an entire shitty wildcat package and was drafted in the first round. Gary was a defensive end I’m not sure what the staff could’ve done to “showcase” him. He was drafted sixth overall.
As far as coaches leaving and not playing in bowls that just comes down to money and I’ll never blame anyone for that.
Overall the program is certainly disorganized but I don’t think it’s in a death spiral by any stretch. Teams in a death spiral don’t sign top ten classes or shit stomp Notre Dame or start figuring out their offense after a heartbreaking loss.
Harbaugh needs to reprioritize within his program and decide if he wants to play with the big boys. He’s been good but not good enough. I just think this article does a lot of editorializing and piling on.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:41 PM ^
Harbaugh crushed the MSU rise.
Harbaugh got the program back to Carr level.
Next up is getting over the hump.
The best is yet to come.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:46 PM ^
"Harbaugh go the program back to Carr level"!? I hope you are joking.
Go look at the talent on the last 4 teams Carr had at Michigan. CRAZY talent. Should have won another NC. Also, Carr ruined at least 2 potential NC's for OSU by beating Cooper. Furthermore, Carr's starting QB, RB, and #1 WR all got drafted year in and year out. Harbaugh is significantly behind where Carr had Michigan.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:54 PM ^
LMAO!
Carr = "woulda, coulda, shoulda" with all that talent (and that he had even better talent than Harbaugh when took over as HC) and that's the argument he's better than Harbaugh?
January 16th, 2020 at 6:17 PM ^
The talent level of his players was better for sure. Just look at the NFL Draft picks, especially on offense.
January 16th, 2020 at 6:47 PM ^
Do you guys ever get tired of debating this same old shit?!
January 16th, 2020 at 5:55 PM ^
"Harbaugh got the program back to Carr level"
Just because you keep saying something doesn't make it true.
January 16th, 2020 at 6:48 PM ^
Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it not!
January 16th, 2020 at 8:53 PM ^
Carr won 5 Big 10 titles, Rose Bowl, NC, beat OSU 6 times, 9-2 vs PSU when they were better than they are now, Heisman trophy winner. In what way are we returned to Carr level?
January 16th, 2020 at 11:13 PM ^
I agree wholeheartedly. I am going to be here when we finally win it all again!!! Go Blue into the future too!!!
January 16th, 2020 at 7:04 PM ^
he talks about how the staff didn’t utilize Jabrill Peppers and Rashan Gary appropriately
Rashan's mom has said as much too. Just sayin'.
January 16th, 2020 at 7:46 PM ^
Share the quote then, Gary is on the Packers and was a early 1st round draft pick...things worked out very well for Rashan, it’s not like he was ever going to win a Heisman
January 17th, 2020 at 12:05 AM ^
Are you not capable of typing g-o-o-g-l-e-.-c-o-m?
Share the quote then
Here's why I'm being a smart ass. It doesn't matter. You've already made up your mind that Spath sucks, I'm a troll, Rashan is a 1st rounder anyway, blah, blah, blah -- which isn't even pertinent to the post... being talented and not being utilized correctly aren't mutually exclusive.
January 17th, 2020 at 9:18 AM ^
Rashan was pick 12. That is in the middle third of first round picks.
So he was a mid first round pick.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:22 PM ^
Soooo scathing...doesn’t sound like a full on culture problem to me, anyway if Patterson was the problem he’s gone
January 16th, 2020 at 8:01 PM ^
O'Korn???
There is something wrong...not sure what. A "culture problem" fits. This is Head Coach responsibility territory. Jim needs to figure this thing out.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:22 PM ^
I'm just here for the vomit
Let's do this. Go to any locker room in the country, for any sport with more than 10 people, and see if you can find someone who thinks the coach(es) favor some people over other people. You will find this in every one. Ex-athletes who felt they were wronged by coaches is as old as team sport itself, followed only by some on the team thinking others on the team should have / should not have been voted captain. Homer probably talks about it in the Iliad.
This is just the bullshit that people talk about when a team loses. This attempt by Spath is just the latest and laziest.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:30 PM ^
"Ex-athletes who felt they were wronged..."
DING DING DING DING DING
That same cohort busted the Houston Astros. The whistleblower (Mike Fiers) was left off their 2017 postseason roster. Apparently, that didn't sit well.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:33 PM ^
I think you're right about Homer - Ajax was not a happy camper when Achilles got special treatment
January 16th, 2020 at 5:47 PM ^
I quote Ajax from Book III:
"All I ever hear in the field all day long
Is how great Achilles is at this,
Or how wonderfully he does that.
Achilles, Achilles, Achilles!"
January 16th, 2020 at 5:31 PM ^
January 16th, 2020 at 11:17 PM ^
Mr Kass, recall that Harbaugh benched Patterson for McCaffrey...and barring injury (concussion) or fail, he was rolling with McCaffrey. Am very surprised so many forgot this...
January 16th, 2020 at 5:34 PM ^
Fuck that Spath hit piece.
I did wish we stuck with Speight, and did think at the time....but if Patterson won, the move would have been viewed as meritous move... Speight I think would have been a good option as a senior. Even McCaffrey...I think the team really rallies around him. Am enthused to hear Ambrys words.
DPJ skills may have been underutilized but I feel that fell on Patterson's tunneling Bell... And after seeing Burrow play, and knowing his astounding work in offseason, the golf thing has teeth. It was a risk to bring Patterson in, and it didn't work out..but it was a plausible try to get better. As Vonnegut says....so it goes.
And I do think Patterson was benched and was gonna ride with Mccaffrey but got hurt, so the meritocracy claim seems nonsense.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:35 PM ^
Spath is a dolt.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:38 PM ^
I actually hope this is true, it would make me feel better about the QB situation.
January 16th, 2020 at 6:56 PM ^
Yea, this actually gave me a little hope that Patterson really was a nagging issue. He may not have been a bad guy but theres enough anecdotes he didn't have full respect of lockeroom. Getting a new leader there might be just what we need.
January 16th, 2020 at 5:39 PM ^
His first bullet is ridiculous when he includes Devin Bush. That guy cared and loved his teammates and coaches.
He presents the second bullet as a negative, that they are trying to get rid of entitled, non-team first guys? Is that really a negative?
Third bullet is blown out of proportion. OSU hiring a guy from Colombus is a huge coup apparently.
PSU took 41 guys in those 2 classes, OSU took 45. Michigan took 56. Those extra guys tend to transfer. Look at it conversely, Michigan held onto 32 players from those 2 classes, PSU only held on to 28 guys from those classes, and OSU held onto 33 guys. So what I take from that is that no matter how many kids you bring in, you're never going to keep more than 17/ class.
Then he brings up entitlement, a program in Harbaughs own image and a Schembechler model...is he implying all three of those things are the same in his mind? That Schembechler ran a program of entitlement?
Oh no our coaches are coveted by NFL programs! Also somehow "willing to give (assistants) a pay raise" = "will severly limit the program's ability to sign another top assistant"
Well that article was complete nonsense to anyone who attempts to apply reason to his points. I bet it gets people fired up though.