November 22nd, 2020 at 12:24 AM ^
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:24 AM ^
Looks like we got a QB. I wonder if Milton is a “Practice Player.” I could see a situation where he looks phenomenal in practice.... but then wets the bed in games.
Also - please don’t do the goal line run with the QB from the shot gun anymore. Please. No. That is why god created snapping from under center.
finally - Imagine this offense with Nico, DPJ, Tarik, Cesar Ruiz. We graduated a lot of parts, had others not come back and still more get injured. I will be curious how this group of Freshman will be when they are seniors, because they are getting a Loooooooot of playing time.
November 22nd, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^
Johnson, Jackson, Mike, and Wilson are all legit receiving threats. As well Corum and Henning can do a ton with the ball when Michigan gets the ball in their hands in the correct way. In two years these guys will be scary good.
November 22nd, 2020 at 10:57 AM ^
When they allow them to be properly utilized and play speed in space. Corum should be used out of the backfield more and paired against linebackers on wheel routes and such, same as Evans. Henning can be end arounds and bubbles as well. Id rather see much more of all of these rather than the wasted fb and te plays. I feel like we finally have a qb that can deliver the ball to them.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:24 AM ^
A STAR IS BORN. 4 TD in one half with three frosh OL.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:27 AM ^
Some players are able to take it up a notch in games while some can't. I find it hard to believe McNamara has been outplaying Milton in practice only to be made the backup. He just needed meaningful snaps to prove his case. That said, I feel bad for Milton. He seems like a good kid, but obviously game performance is weighted heavier than practice, and his inconsistency keeps them from getting into a rhythm.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:28 AM ^
We learned a few things this evening...
QB - Cade McNamara
RB- Hassan Haskins
K- Jake Moody
The defense is a massive jumble of bodies, some of which we have never heard of before.
It’s time Josh Gattis earns his cash because we are gonna have to put 40+ to win any of the remaining games on our schedule.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:28 AM ^
Needed one or two more runs up the middle to soften up that stout Rutgers defense /s
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:29 AM ^
McNamara on the post game radio interview: The young man has a future either in coaching or doing color commentary.
He went through each score. Noted key contributions from other guys on each play. Also talked about his reads versus specific defenses.
I don't know if I've ever heard a college quarterback give an interview like that. Definitely not after a wild game loaded with drama.
Interesting dude. Interested to see more.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:58 AM ^
Agreed, but shit if he continues to play like tonight he has a future in the NFL prior to coaching or television.
November 22nd, 2020 at 11:11 AM ^
I read his bio last night and he was a big nerd in high school which I really like especially at the QB position and in life. Look at his eyes if you rewatch the games. He studies every part of the defense before the snap. High IQ football player.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:29 AM ^
I think we were sold a load of crap that Milton “beat out” DMac. Seems like Harbaugh and Dmac + parents clashed, and they were left with Milton. Probably was defensible to go with Milton at that point, but I’m grateful we’ve found Cade. Suddenly everything that seemed so hard for Michigan in their passing game seems easy. We can find receivers, stretch the field, run slants. The JOK-Shea era of busting the play at the slightest pressure and missing open men hopefully could be over. Now how do we get Jim’s headset muted on all offensive sequences?
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:35 AM ^
Nice story ya got there - anything to back it up?
November 22nd, 2020 at 1:07 AM ^
Ghost of Jermain posted it a couple weeks ago and it makes sense when you consider the DCaff left the team for no obvious reason when he could be practicing or trying to get into the starting lineup. Are you just a Harbaugh apologist attacking anyone criticizing the way the season has gone?
November 22nd, 2020 at 1:08 AM ^
The evidence on the field tonight seems like a solid argument for circumstantial evidence.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:30 AM ^
I thought Cade looked great (4 touchdowns, 1 running). After years of getting destroyed by slant passes it was nice to see us torch someone with them. Really pleasantly surprised with the OL considering 3/5 of the starters were out. We have some really great young players that are getting a lot of experience. Tough year but hopefully it’s the foundation of good things to come.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:33 AM ^
Return of the Mack...the other Mack...the one that hopefully avoids injury better than the first one.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:33 AM ^
Cade played really well behind a bad OL. I know it was just Rutgers, but the variety of throws he made and his overall decision making were eye opening.
What confuses me is that the playbook seemed to open back up when he came in. Reads, screens, RPOs, slants, double moves.... Milton wasn't executing well at all, but it also felt like the plays were not what we saw against MN.
Why is that? Was he struggling so they shortened the play list? Was it some power dynamic regarding whoever was calling plays? Was he just ending drives so early that we never got to see more plays?
Cade does remind you of Forcier or even Griese.....they don't look like much and don't do anything amazing....but they make plays.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:37 AM ^
Oline did a pretty decent job of protecting McNamara. The important difference was that McNamara avoided the big negative plays while Milton did not. When pass protection broke down, Cade got rid of the ball.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:37 AM ^
I thought the exact same thing, where was any of this creativity when Milton was behind center? Happy for Cade, but just so confused by the coaching staff
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:39 AM ^
Milton has a tough time throwing screens accurately or deep passes with any touch. I'm sure Gattis has to limit the playcalling which surprises me even more as to why Milton was starting to begin with.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:33 AM ^
CMac is fantastic and really excited to have him be the starter from here on out, but holy shit the play calling he gets is leagues better than the stuff Milton got. I get that Milton probably can't execute with enough accuracy to run those quick screens or pick plays, but if he can't do that, why is he your starter?? You wasted half the season with long developing pass plays that he can't hit because you apparently don't trust him with the short stuff
So absolutely confused and we still need to move on, but congrats to the players for a huge comeback and a gutty win, love seeing a gap toothed millionaire look on in defeat like Schiano tonight
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:38 AM ^
Are you sure the playcalling is different or did McNamara just execute better?
November 22nd, 2020 at 1:14 AM ^
Yeah, I think they ran similar plays but we didn’t see Milton complete the passes, or threw to covered players, or didn’t let the routes develop, or held onto the ball and took a sack, etc.
Similar to Shea, when you have a player who usually only takes his first read, or just can’t make the throws, plays look very different.
November 22nd, 2020 at 1:08 AM ^
I just think Milton misses too many plays. Hard to get into a playcalling rhythm with a one-read QB and near constant 3-and-outs. I don't know what the staff is seeing or looking for in a QB at this point, but I doubt they are purposely playing a worse QB. Milton must be showing enough in practice that they thought the growing pains were worth it.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:35 AM ^
Thank you Cade McNamara. You played a whale of a game. Had you started you may not have had to play 3 OTs
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:35 AM ^
Thank you Cade McNamara. You played a whale of a game. Had you started you may not have had to play 3 OTs
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:35 AM ^
We have an offense again?
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:35 AM ^
I hope to never see Joe Milton take another snap. He fucking sucks. I see the promise, the great arm. Cade I see flat out better. Makes me wonder how the fuck he beat Dylan out- he fucking sucks. He fucking sucks. (Christopher Walken voice). He Fucking Sucks.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:39 AM ^
I'm not that drunk yet, but working on it...
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:40 AM ^
He's a limited quarterback, but he is literally not responsible for a single one of Michigan's losses this year. Not a great look to throw a kid under the bus when he's doing all he can and is cheering and helping the backup after getting benched. Joe is a team player and I hope he stays on the team as a solid back up or gets a starter shot somewhere else. It's clear though, it's CMac's team now
November 22nd, 2020 at 7:25 AM ^
Thank you for this. I'm so sick of the shots at Milton when you couldn't have asked him to handle the situation any better last night. I wish he would see the field better. I wish he was more accurate. But last night showed you couldn't ask him to be more of a team player.
November 22nd, 2020 at 11:04 PM ^
OK, give Milton a break. He was always a project and the problem was game 1 against Minnesota was easy because Minnesota as time has showed, is not good. If you want to blame someone or something, how about the porous defense that forces the QB into thinking the weight of the game is completely on his shoulders?
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:37 AM ^
I basically figured a game like this would happen at some point. It is just more upsetting because I think Michigan beats MSU with Cade.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:39 AM ^
that's correct sir
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:43 AM ^
No “think”, Michigan would have won going away. Not sure but maybe split the next two. Defense tightened once the O worked.
November 22nd, 2020 at 7:30 AM ^
I completely agree with this take. However, it was not Joe Milton that lost the State game. It was the appalling pass defense that lost that game.
November 22nd, 2020 at 10:09 AM ^
Only half agree. MSU receivers made some career receptions in that loss (think blind squirrel). And if Milton had played better, they wouldn’t have had as many chances.
Hope Milton stays at UM and improves enough to lead M to a win in relief one day! That would be awesome for the kid. Is it OK to hope for that?!
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:37 AM ^
Gattis must be out of his mind telling the announcers that he "doesn't feel like he has 25 carry back" right before the game when Haskins run over Rutgers with 25 carries. Did he not see Haskins and Charbonnet last season?
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:41 AM ^
Maybe it was a jab at Jay for being so incompetent
November 22nd, 2020 at 8:35 AM ^
Is it any wonder that Gattis rhymes with flatus?
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:38 AM ^
Thank you Cade McNamara. You played a whale of a game. Had you started you may not have had to play 3 OTs
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:40 AM ^
One running back. Hot hand whatever. Just stop the turnstile
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:46 AM ^
I’ll bite. I coach soccer, different sport but I’ve coached college, high school and youth, and one thing is always consistent: sometimes kids who ball out during games simply do not practice quite as well. I’ve wrestled with decisions on who to start many times because one kid is killing it in practice while another is struggling or is simply lazy/unmotivated. A few years back I had a (college GK) kid with all the physical talents in the world who would find every excuse possible to miss training and would half-ass it when she did bother to show up.
Playoffs came and we went with the less talented, less physically-gifted kid who was dedicated and practiced very well. And we lost a playoff game after she made a crucial error that the more talented, lazy kid would’ve never made.
I’m not suggesting Cade is lazy or unmotivated. I’m just saying that practice does not always paint a perfectly clear picture of who will perform better under pressure. Not gonna knock Harbaugh for starting the guy he felt gave us the best chance to win. Rather, I’ll give him credit for making a change when he did.
November 22nd, 2020 at 1:18 AM ^
Plus 100, insightful.
Now, fire Harbaugh.
November 22nd, 2020 at 7:33 AM ^
Analysis is very sound, but from everything I have been reading, Cade's work ethic and practice effort have been one of the things that coaches and teammates loved about him.
November 22nd, 2020 at 9:02 AM ^
You could be right and have actual coaching experience but as a fan, I’ve never been enamored with practice warriors. Show me when the lights go on.
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:48 AM ^
Haskins should be the only back getting “standard” carries until the OL gets their shit together. He can run through garbage, no one else can.
November 22nd, 2020 at 8:37 AM ^
He literally tried to run through a clueless Eubanks
November 22nd, 2020 at 12:51 AM ^
I think the defense has to respect Cade’s passing ability and that helps the run game and the pass protection. It seems like defenses don’t respect Milton’s passing at all. To me that’s the difference. It seemed like an entirely different o line when Cade entered the game.