PSU Trustees to Consider Naming Field for Joe Paterno
Obviously, Michigan's hands aren't entirely clean on the same issue, but I had thought these folks were basically done. Can't imagine this goes through, but what do I know.
February 16th, 2024 at 5:42 PM ^
Yeah, Jay is definitely a failson.
February 16th, 2024 at 9:01 PM ^
Brian Ferentz says hi.
February 16th, 2024 at 3:51 PM ^
I've always tried to raise my kids to not idolize individuals - myself included. Principles, not people. This is just another reason why.
February 16th, 2024 at 5:01 PM ^
That is an excellent lesson for children in the time we live
February 16th, 2024 at 5:05 PM ^
Well the problem is people idolize people for all the wrong reasons. Winning football games doesn't make you a role model; it just means you're good at your job.
People idolize athletes and celebrities and the wealthy, but at best they're no better or worse than the average nobody, as far as principles go. If anything, they're often worse. OTOH, figures like Norman Borlaug or Chiune Sugihara remain obscure.
February 16th, 2024 at 9:39 PM ^
Who?
Sorry, I kid, but I did want to say I was today years old when I learned that Chiune Sugihara had been honored by Israel as one of the Righteous, so thank you for that.
February 16th, 2024 at 3:51 PM ^
Jerry Sandusky memorial shower room.
February 16th, 2024 at 3:55 PM ^
woof. maybe a little too on the nose there.
February 16th, 2024 at 5:48 PM ^
On something, but not the nose…what? Too soon?
February 18th, 2024 at 9:08 AM ^
On the nose meaning poignant.
February 16th, 2024 at 3:57 PM ^
ugh not even funny
February 16th, 2024 at 3:59 PM ^
Someone suggested Joe Paterno Day too, and if we want to be honest, it would be an informal holiday where no one says a damn thing.
February 16th, 2024 at 4:32 PM ^
and shits their pants just before noon.
February 16th, 2024 at 4:09 PM ^
That is just a slap in the face of the victims and all those affected by what happened at Penn St. under Paterno’s watch.
February 16th, 2024 at 4:21 PM ^
Football Uber Alles
February 16th, 2024 at 4:27 PM ^
"...aren't entirely clean"? GTFO with that bullshit. Michigan's hands are permanently stained.
We have an entire football facility named after a guy who willfully ignored sexual assault allegations for years. And his statue is out front.
PSU can do whatever the fuck they want.
February 16th, 2024 at 4:29 PM ^
Couldn't have said it better myself. Michigan arrogance needs to step aside once and a while.
February 16th, 2024 at 4:55 PM ^
Step aside, huh.
"These people are bad, but those people over there are also bad so let's move on" is certainly a way to go about life. A horrible, cynical, psychopathic piece-of-shit way to live, but it's there.
I'm sure the victims of Anderson and Sandusky would be fully on board with, hey there's MORE THAN ONE sexual abuse legacy in the B1G, so they somehow cancel each other out.
February 17th, 2024 at 1:13 AM ^
Exactly. Acting like people should ignore the sexual assault at other schools just because Michigan's history isn't clean is idiotic and short-sighted.
February 16th, 2024 at 5:50 PM ^
Right on. No one should excuse it or validate it but we are probably the last fanbase that should be high-and-mighty.
Something, something, something about people who live in glass houses and throwing stones. Don’t forget honorable mention also goes to Fielding Yost and his many documented prejudices.
February 16th, 2024 at 5:52 PM ^
I agree UM's hands are stained but that doesn't mean calling out PSU for actively trying to make another stupid decision around Paterno is out of bounds. I'm pretty comfortable saying that, in fact, PSU should not do whatever the fuck they want if "what they want" is to name a stadium after an asshole who, at best, ignored systemic child sexual abuse by one of his coaches for years.
And yeah, UM should absolutely melt that statue of Bo down and tear his name off that hall.
February 16th, 2024 at 4:31 PM ^
We should either lead by example or sit this one out.
February 16th, 2024 at 4:35 PM ^
Don't throw stones in glass houses. Best to just watch and see on this one.
February 16th, 2024 at 5:01 PM ^
Fuck that shit. Just because Michigan's dirty, doesn't make PSU untouchable. And seriously. . . what the hell??
Yeah Michigan is dirty, and if the Schembechler statue was instead a glass house I'm bringing a fucking onager.
Anyone with a sense of ethics or compassion don't buy that nonsense. "Evil cancels evil" is unhinged, incoherent, nihilistic absurdity. You POINT OUT BOTH. The more glass houses there are, the more I'm sending out invites for a goddamn rock-throwing party until there are no glass houses left. Fuck glass houses!
Seriously, what the hell is this deranged "we got dirt so don't point at others' dirt" madness going on in here?? It's dismaying to see so many psychopaths crawling out of the woodwork.
February 16th, 2024 at 5:15 PM ^
In the end, I'm 99.9% sure this won't happen.
The PSU Board of Trustees has a group of folks (Jay Paterno among them) who propose ideas from this from time to time.
But it's always had minority support on the Board. And probably always will.
So this will die off after a few days. Rinse and repeat: we've seen stories/proposals like this before and there will be similiar stories/proposals at some point in the future.
Board members like Jay should be more seriously working on PSU's current budget problems. But why do hard and serious work when there are sideshows like this? It's almost like Jay is acting like a Washington DC Congressman!
February 16th, 2024 at 5:34 PM ^
They are…
February 16th, 2024 at 5:46 PM ^
Is there anyone left in the world with a basic sense of morality? Jesus Christ.
February 16th, 2024 at 5:50 PM ^
The article makes it clear that the proposal was brought up and then immediately rescinded at the behest of Jay Paterno and others, though the reasoning was less "that's a terrible idea" and more "let's way until a later date to discuss it". So I guess we'll see.
I will say, and I'll take the negs for it, schools need to stop naming stuff after former coaches and major figures in general, but particularly if you aren't one million percent sure they don't have some pretty massive skeletons in their closets. Like, they should have ripped the name off Schembechler Hall and taken that statue down but I sort of get places being reticent to tear something down. But I see no good reason why you'd name something after, at best, a non-controversial individual in your program's history.
February 16th, 2024 at 6:10 PM ^
Totally. We all know that schools should only name things after wealthy donors.
February 17th, 2024 at 2:06 PM ^
All I know is that when I visit UM I want to walk down a halfway chronicling the successes of the best J. Ira and Nick Harris Family's this school has produced.
February 17th, 2024 at 6:55 AM ^
Well then lets stop the idolization of all. People, corporations and more. Woo hoo look at my latest Nike's made by some kid somewhere in a sweatshop in asia working 18 hours a day for pennies an hour only to be forced by their parents to come back and do it again tomorrow. But I got the latest pair for $250.00.. Let's celebrate those massive uni deals.. Michigan signed with Jordan Brand..
February 16th, 2024 at 6:38 PM ^
In other news, Michigan State to nam their gym after Larry Nassar
February 16th, 2024 at 6:39 PM ^
I don’t have an issue with it. I wasn’t there and I don’t know what happened. Paterno seemed like a very good guy for a long time and it isn’t even alleged he did anything affirmatively wrong. I’m done canceling people.
February 16th, 2024 at 6:53 PM ^
In general, I'm not the biggest fan of rescinding honors or "cancelling" folks.
But in this case, the statue is down. Paterno has already been (effectively) cancelled.
So, as of 16-February-2024, the discussion is about whether to UN-cancel him.
And, for various reasons, that's not a very viable choice for the school.
February 20th, 2024 at 12:10 PM ^
Watching a child drown isn't affirmatively illegal, but its fucking wrong.
So is harboring a rapist.
February 16th, 2024 at 7:00 PM ^
Penn State is the only place that makes Michigan State look competent in every category, especially from a board of trustee perspective. All the way down to having people who are wildly unqualified to serve on the board, like Jay Paterno, who belongs there just like George Perles did at Michigan State.
February 16th, 2024 at 8:48 PM ^
Seriously?
February 17th, 2024 at 12:30 AM ^
We've had our own issues for sure, but I can't think of any other program where children were literally raped in the football facility by an emeritus member of the coaching staff and the head coach did nothing about it.
February 17th, 2024 at 1:15 AM ^
Paterno didn't do nothing. He chose to ignore the abuse and let it keep happening.
February 17th, 2024 at 1:33 AM ^
Sandusky Ohio changed its name to Callahan Autohio
February 17th, 2024 at 4:08 AM ^
that's gonna be a huge no from me
knowing what we now know about the man, no
February 17th, 2024 at 9:12 AM ^
May as well just name it Fuck You field
February 17th, 2024 at 1:43 PM ^
Your keyboard malfunctioned. It left off the "ng" & "Boys"
February 17th, 2024 at 10:16 AM ^
This is just not a good thing… It was a pleasant surprise to see Jay Paterno suggest the proposal be withdrawn.
And - is anyone from business or academia on that board? The references were toward the University’s Board of Trustees - but, it sounds like a PSU football alumni club instead.
February 17th, 2024 at 10:54 AM ^
Anybody who thinks there is even the tiniest likelihood that Penn State University will do this in the foreseeable future is a ridiculous idiot who has no inkling of how large public institutions operate today.
February 17th, 2024 at 10:59 AM ^
Of course they are.
February 17th, 2024 at 7:17 PM ^
The child fucker tread turned into a religious thread. The more things change, eh?