SalvatoreQuattro

January 23rd, 2024 at 6:49 PM ^

Harbaugh does not care about size of fan bases(Stanford). He cares about winning and the Chargers superficially at least provide him with the best path.
 

Of course, they are in the Chiefs division and that is an 15 mile wide obstacle. Then there is Allen, Jackson, Burrow, and Stroud. That in just his own conference.

I suspect that his time in LA  will end poorly. The Spanos and Harbaugh will mix like oil and water. As soon as they hit turbulence there will be issues. I am as certain of that as I am certain of anything.

Winchester Wolverine

January 23rd, 2024 at 6:56 PM ^

Good bye, Jim. National Champion, legend, quintessential Michigan Man. Build his statue and close this chapter. The last 3 years have been the most fun and emotionally impactful football I've ever seen and may ever see for the rest of my life. I will always be grateful for the years spent working tirelessly to pick this program up from the depths and propelling it to the very top of the mountain. What a fucking ride.

UMChick77

January 23rd, 2024 at 7:12 PM ^

I am so over these types of posts. 

Someone wake me up when there is actually news. We just won a national championship and people want to continue to wring their hands.

Whatever happens, happens. We will be fine. 

kwallace2386

January 23rd, 2024 at 7:38 PM ^

Or, you know, we could do what Kansas did, which was give Bill Self the language he wanted and fight the NCAA tooth and nail in court if it gets that far. Then the NCAA wussed out. Instead? Michigan lets the NCAA win yet again! It’s not hard, people! Michigan ignorantly thinks that “playing the game” to win in collegiate athletics somehow diminishes the school’s prestige. Look at Texas, USC, Duke. Why are they so much smarter not to think this?

uminks

January 23rd, 2024 at 7:29 PM ^

Time for a new coaching search. Looks like the next coach may have to replace most of the assistant coaches. If Moore is picked as the new coach he will probably have to promote Hart to keep him and look for a new DC. A coach from outside will probably end up taking most of his coaching staff here. Who do you want as a new coach? I'm 50/50 on Moore, he has never been a HC with another program but did win at PSU and OSU at home. He could be a good coach or if he has to do some reloading, we may fall back to 3 or 4 losses a year.

kwallace2386

January 23rd, 2024 at 7:40 PM ^

This was a huge inflection point to see if Michigan leadership will finally do what it will take to win in college sports. If bringing back a coach who won you a national championship won’t convince Michigan to do it, nothing will. We are screwed. Somehow the geniuses at Kansas have figured out how to deal with the NCAA better than Michigan has by giving Self the language he wanted and fighting the NCAA. Why is it so damn hard for Michigan?!

Wendyk5

January 24th, 2024 at 10:38 AM ^

Are you kidding? The inflection point was in 2020. Warde put the screws to Jim by giving him a pay cut. That took balls. No one seems to appreciate --or remember -- where we were at that point. The quarterback situation up to that point was middling. People complained about Harbaugh's stubbornness. He lived in old school football land. And as a former QB, why aren't his quarterbacks better? We beat who we were supposed to beat but we couldn't beat our rivals. We couldn't win bowl games. Then we went 2-4. Other teams had to face the Covid shortened season, too, so we can't blame it on Covid. Warde did what he did because he wanted to win, and knew that Michigan wanted to win, too. Harbaugh was forced to step out of his comfort zone. Was he pissed about it? Probably. But he brought in some different coordinators, and assistants who thought differently than he did. He embraced it all, and saw results because of it. So let's not paint Warde as someone who doesn't care if Michigan wins. That's just disingenuous bullshit. 

I dumped the Dope

January 23rd, 2024 at 8:02 PM ^

Trying to approach it thru the lens of "things are never as good nor as bad as they seem".

I feel like JH isn't going to leave the cupboard bare in terms of coaching staff as that would be a significant dent in his fairly shiny legacy.  The maximum sustained success in the program was when the next generation of coaches were somewhat developed from within and there was continuity.  Feel like the current players can help raise the next generation of players up to the standards it takes to be in the conversation at the end of the season.

Also feel like the UM AthDept can stall in a similar manner and that improves their hand day by day due to the closing window of time and so JH interviewing might give them a greater sense of purpose.  I work as a commoner and not for a megamillion salary so my assessment may be off but if you live long enough you are bound to have had frustrations with the opaque-ness of HR departments.

Last thought:  if the interviewing over the last couple of years killled recruiting or development, then I cannot tell in the results.  

Sure hope JH comes back home.  He definitely has Ohio's Number.

GoBlueSimon

January 23rd, 2024 at 8:13 PM ^

2 things:

1.  I feel like we go through this same stuff every off-season.  Harbaugh is close to signing a new contract for this team or another team in the NFL.  Every year 

2.  I also want to know what outkick is and why I should trust their "sources"?  Never heard of this "sports news" outlet before and now all of a sudden I'm supposed to believe they've got a scoop that all the other larger, more prominent outlets do not have?  Ok.

tybert

January 23rd, 2024 at 8:26 PM ^

Love what he has done for my school - both as a player and a coach. 

Two healthy years as a starting QB: 21-3-1 (6-0 vs Ohio, Sparty No!, and Norte Damo combined)

Coach: 89-25 as a team or 78.1% (he's technically 86-25). 3 consecutive B1G titles, 3 wins over Ohio, 1 National Title

I wish him well even though I'd love for him to stay. He may love the weather in LA. Very little pressure (really even with his contract) at a job where the winningest coach is Sid Gillman with 86 wins and one AFC championship over 11 seasons. Since 2007, SD/LA is a total of 5 games over 500. They blew a 27-0 lead in last year's playoffs. 

If SD/LA really thinks he is worth the dough, go for it. As long as the Rams keep winning and making the playoffs, the Bolts will always be a distant 2nd place in a town that loves the Rams. 

He is leaving our program in the best state since Bo retired after 1989 with three B1G titles in 4 years and handed it over to Moeller. 

I'll always root for this guy but it's time for Sherrone and team to take the mantle!

Jordan2323

January 23rd, 2024 at 8:43 PM ^

Here is my hope: that Warde wants HIS guy in there. Let’s say that is Sherrone. Maybe Warde finally starts giving him the NIL shit he needs. If Jim is even remotely known to have been willing to stay and Warde goes all in on Sherrone, he’s going to want him to succeed. That is my hope!

M-Dog

January 23rd, 2024 at 8:53 PM ^

Nobody ever has Jim Harbaugh as their head coach.  They only borrow him.

Thankfully Michigan was able to make the absolute most of his time here.

Now we give him back, as we always knew we would.

Godspeed Coach.

gwrock

January 23rd, 2024 at 9:25 PM ^

The CA state income tax is 14% for Harbaugh's bracket.  The Chargers would have to pay him 10% more than whatever Michigan is willing to pay just for him to break even on the taxes alone.

TickerTape

January 23rd, 2024 at 9:26 PM ^

Here's one for the Michigan super fans -

Who was the last head coach of the football team to quit, and take another job? Not retire (Loyd) or medical (Bo) or fired (too many) but just flat out quit and take another job?

 

rob f

January 23rd, 2024 at 9:44 PM ^

My guess would be Fritz Crisler.

(edit 9:47) on 2nd thought, Bennie Oosterbaan. 

Thinking more about it after my original answer of Crisler, I vaguely remembered reading years ago that Bennie made a comment post-retirement that seemed to indicate he had gotten to the point where the pressure and frustration exceeded the enjoyment of the coaching job (not at all a quote but my interpretation of what I had read).

MichiganFootball

January 23rd, 2024 at 9:30 PM ^

If Harbaugh leaves Los Angeles without accepting an offer or it isn’t announced in short order, I feel like the Chargers won’t happen.  If they want Harbaugh and if he wants the Chargers there’s really no reason to wait at this point.

kwallace2386

January 23rd, 2024 at 9:52 PM ^

I have a feeling that if no NFL team offered Harbaugh, he wouldn’t come back to Michigan unless they agreed to his verbiage requests. I kind of wish that would happen, where no NFL team offers him, to expose just how bad UM leadership is doing what it takes to compete. The Chargers will be a cop out for Warde and Co.

Puget Sound Blue

January 24th, 2024 at 1:43 AM ^

The more that I think about it, the less convinced that I am (and I wasn't much convinced to begin with) that Michigan is failing to "show the love" to Harbaugh. There's too much that we don't know about the contract negotiations between Harbaugh and the university, so what we do hear is "insider"-sourced speculation. What we do know is that Harbaugh is at Michigan in part because because the 49ers ownership and front office wanted him out and that he's shown interest in going back to the NFL multiple times since taking the Michigan head coaching job.

The NFL is where he really wants to be. None of that is to take away from what Harbaugh has achieved at Michigan. Winning the NC and going 15-0 will likely not be repeated for years to come, if ever. I'm glad that Harbaugh has coached here. I wish him the best in whatever he decides to do. But there comes a point where nothing Michigan can offer will get Harbaugh to where he wants to be, and we may have reached that point. I don't blame the university, Warde Manuel, or Harbaugh for any of that. Let Jim make his choice and the Michigan program will move on.

ixcuincle

January 24th, 2024 at 7:34 AM ^

Only a matter of who he leaves to handle Michigan. Because he might as well be gone to the NFL. We can only hope he leaves some staff behind to continue the dominance.

FlexUM

January 24th, 2024 at 8:09 AM ^

So word is he was there for 3.5+ hours yesterday....but no deal announced. I have to think today is a big, big day. If there is no deal today and he goes to that Falcons interview you have to think the chargers will start looking elsewhere seriously. 

All speculation but man it feels like today is meaningful. 

MGoBlue96

January 24th, 2024 at 10:21 AM ^

I mean at this point obviously have no ill will toward Jim but it is still frustrating that a team that won a NC, that should have a ton of momentum, is pretty much forced to be in a holding pattern as far as being able to doing anything in the transfer portal, etc. Doubly so when you have brutal schedule for next year. As much as this NC was glorious it would be a shame to see the program backslide significantly.

MichiganFootball

January 24th, 2024 at 11:54 AM ^

Honestly it feels like the longer this drags out without him accepting the job the more likely that things will end in our favor.

He's had two interviews with the Chargers at this point.  If they are going to hire him it'll be imminent.  There's zero reason for them to wait at this point.  

With the Falcons I think it's less clear where he is in their pecking order but they do appear to be losing interest in Belichick.

It is possible that when all is said and done Harbaugh can't actually bring himself to leave Michigan once an offer is actually in front of him.  We should have clarity soonish though.

jonvalk

January 24th, 2024 at 12:00 PM ^

Seeing a lot of people who are suffering from recency bias without context. I am choosing to be thankful for the championship we just won, realizing it's possible it may not happen again for decades.

Here are the factors that contributed to our win this year:

1. Abnormal team cohesion and lack of ego, even from stars.

2. COVID year eligibility gave us a super senior team laden with experience.

3. Great coordinator hires after 2020 season that changed the feel of the team.

4. Changing of the guard at our main rival to a soft coach that thought it was his birthright to beat Michigan without effort.

5. Harbaugh is weird, but loveable. His teams love him and played for him.

Here are the possible/inevitable changes:

1. I think the culture is good and #1 above may not change. That being said, winning helps people be selfless, once losses happen, it can drive people to be more self-focused.

2. COVID year eligibilities are still a factor for underclassmen, so this may not change a whole lot, but a lot of our main contributors are heading to the next level. There is a potential drop-off (I say potential because there is a lot of younger talent).

3. If Jim leaves, I'd wager we lose multiple coordinators. This is not minor. If we found a way to retain Minter and Moore, I think we weather the storm. Minter is especially important because a great defense can keep you in games you may not deserve to be in (see: Iowa).

4. Day and OSU have already started loading up for a Hail Mary next season. They are desperate. I would love nothing more than to see them still lose due to oversights in coaching and "me" mentality instead of "team" mentality, they are embarrassed at OSU after losing to Michigan 3x in a row. They will have a singular focus.

5. Without Harbaugh, I think we lose some recruiting wins, and I genuinely think he's a good coach.

 

I hope for continuing dominance, but I expect a step back next season. If even to 10-2. We have a rough schedule in 2024.

That said, Go Blue! National Champs!