OT: Worst Pro Sports City in America (?)
With the Cavaliers bringing home the first title to Cleveland, Ohio since the Declaration of Independence the Civil War Prohibition WWII John Williams composed anything worthwhile Lyndon Johnson was President, it seems reasonable to discuss what the worst sports city is in America. While the Lions are major suckage, at least there are three other teams in Detroit that have won titles in (most of) our lifetimes.
In my opinion it is still Cleveland, but who else should be up for consideration?
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Jacksonville? Please. One of the worst in the NFL
Jacksonville has no fans. One team and they can't fill their stadium.
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-Jacksonville
-Milwaukee
-Raleigh (the Hurricanes)
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A city like Cleveland or Philadelphia can never be the worst Pro sports city in America. Because they have passionate fans who care. Fans who follow their teams win or lose, through happiness and heartbreak.
The worst Pro sports cities are the ones with the bandwagon fanbases who only follow the their teams when they are deep in the playoffs. Marlins "fans" are the epitome of this.
Very true what you said about Cleveland and Philadelphia.
And yet the Marlins have won two World Series. With all of the hype about the Cubs and This is The Year . They have to win again to match the Marlins.
You have to exclude the one pro team cities like Jacksonville.
The only major team in Florida I can't remember having obvious attendance issues is UF football. All the pro sports teams and even FSU and Miami football have terrible runs of bad attendance
I had always thought the Dolphins had a loyal passionate following even when they were not good, but apparently even that is not true.
Too many recreational options, too many people from somewhere else.
the too many people from somewhere else plays in there, but in Miami they built an awful sterile football stadium in a terrible location and priced their fans out of the place. Then ran the franchise poorly driving away fans. The baseball team played in the same terrible stadium which was rigged terribly for baseball, then built a ridiculous stadium at tax payers expense while having twice fire sold their franchise future away because the owner is a douche. Who wants to be loyal to that?
The Lightning were 8th in Avg attendance this year in the NHL. Put a good product out there in a nice venue - the fans will come.
Minneapolis
Haven't even had a CHAMPIONSHIP APPEARANCE in 25 years. Plus the Vikings have been known to choke in spectacular fashion. Twolves had one good year ever, Wild never made it to the Western Conference Finals (lost their former hockey team to Dallas, which in itself is sad), lost the Lakers to LA, Twins were good 25 years ago, etc.
But the Lynx are a straight up dynasty so there's that.
Still trying to figure out how they havent gone bankrupt yet
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So why do they hold onto them? I'm having a hard time believing it' brings in enough cash to make it worth the effort
It's a condition of owning the NBA team, I believe. It's the reason why the WNBA has survived and why Pro Women's soccer is on something like it's 80th attempt at a pro league in the US.
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You are correct but when I said championship appearance, I meant finals championship (Stanley Cup finals in this case). Probably should have clarified.
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You literally said verbatim: "Wild never made it to the Western Conference Finals "
Yeah I don't remember saying that. I thought you were referring to the 'championship finals' part. Neg away!
Not to say Minneapolis is a 'bad' sports town in terms of fan support, but I would say it's the most sports depressed town now that Cleveland finally won.
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To me, "worst sports town" means having fans who don't give a damn, and that means Miami.
But cities with the most bandwagon fans? Definitely Miami and LA. DC is in there, too.
boston would be high on that list. particularly the patriots and red sox.
Sacramento. Kings have been atrocious, outside of the short period Chris Webber got them to the Western Conference Finals. Nothing else of note.
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On a side note I think California needs about 10 more NBA teams. What's that old saying? Throw enough shit at a wall, and some of it is bound to stick.
Never been there but I think its Pittsburgh . Most Penguins fans didnt know they existed until shortly before Crosby got there .
They dont have an NBA team.
Not a fan of the Steelers .
What the hell good has Pittsburgh ever done for the rest of us ?
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Pittsburgh is not a good sports town because you don't happen to be a fan of the Steelers? How objective of you. Some might be pursuaded by the 6 Super Bowls (most of any team) and hundreds of consecutive sellouts, but I guess I'll have to say that doesn't matter because you don't like the Steelers. And the Penguins? There was a guy before Crosby named Mario Lemieux. Look him up, you'll learn something.
I gotta go with San Diego, all things considered. The Chargers won the city's only title in 1963 in a league that no longer exists (the AFL) They might've rated above Cleveland since they made a few finals, but no more. Also, if your city loses a pro sports team that's a huge negative in your column and San Diego lost both the Clippers AND the Rockets. You can argue that Cleveland lost the original Browns and replaced them with a fradulent shitshow, but the main takeaway is that the fans cared enough that the NFL gave(?) them a replacement Browns team. If the Chargers left tomorrow, who in SD would hurt as badly?
Atlanta would probably be in the conversation for worst city if it wasn't for the Braves winning in 1996. The fan support is generally non-existent because it's all transplanted people from elsewhere that root for other teams. I'll grant that the Falcons and Hawks have been decent as of late, but if the Falcons/Hawks make the playoffs and no one is there to notice, did they actually make the playoffs?
Also, whoever here is suggesting Detroit for worst pro sports city is insane. Detroit has its problems, but 8 titles in the last quarter century disqualifies it from even being in the conversation for worst sports city.