OT: Top TV shows all time

Submitted by TK on August 10th, 2022 at 10:46 AM

Stole this from the BCS thread below and want to hear more opinions. I separate dramas and comedies. 

Dramas:

1. The Wire

1a. Breaking Bad

1b. The Sopranos 

4. Game of Thrones 

Honorable Mention: Better Call Saul, Sons of Anarchy, Dexter. 

 

Comedies:

1. Seinfeld

2. It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia 

3. Curb your enthusiasm 

4. The Office. 

Angry-Dad

August 10th, 2022 at 2:34 PM ^

Such a difference without the laugh track.  I like to watch old Monty Python and Faulty Towers stuff but it is so much different than the stuff today.  I am a fan of Always Sunny and I loved the Office, but I find it hard to compare when not in front of a live studio audience.  

Anybody remember Kate and Alley?  My mom loved that show and I had to watch it as a kid.  I also liked Mork and Mindy.

Favorite kid show that still holds up pretty well when watching with my kids was the original Muppet Show.  

Blue Vet

August 10th, 2022 at 2:44 PM ^

You're right, the sound has a huge effect. 

For instance, watch the Three Stooges with the sound off. Without cartoony sound effects, the pokes and smacks and hits in the head with hammers aren't funny but look unrealistic or lame.

Same thing with late-night shows—Daily Show, Fallon, Colbert, etc. If you've ever been in the audience, you know they have people, usually guys warming up the crowd before the show and THEN when the host's about to come out, reminding us we got in for free so all we have to do is stand and hoop and holler. That is, the audiences become performing monkeys to make the host look good. 

Grampy

August 10th, 2022 at 11:58 AM ^

Should also include Futurama in with the Simpsons. Both featured some of the best writing in comedy. 
  If you wanted to go old school and cite the most influential comedies, search no further than I Love Lucy and The Honeymooners.  Both groundbreaking from staging/filming and establishing comedy archetypes. 

rposly

August 10th, 2022 at 11:05 AM ^

Hard to rank them, but a general top-10 would have to include Northern Exposure, Deadwood, Lost, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The X-Files, Game of Thrones, Dexter, Mad Men, Battlestar Galactica, The West Wing, Freaks and Geeks.  I guess that's 11.  

MottledMaizeandBlue

August 10th, 2022 at 11:13 AM ^

Plus one for Freaks and Geeks- I’d put that at 1a with The Wire. Yes, for it’s one season. 
 

For goofy comedies, I’ve loved parts of Brooklyn 99, all of Psych, and The Good Guys as well (also The Finder). I was not OK with Netflix backing out of a second season of I Am Not OK With This…until I read the graphic novel, then it made sense. 

oriental andrew

August 10th, 2022 at 11:49 AM ^

+1 for Buffy and X-Files. 

Honestly, never watched most of the top dramas in the OP - mostly because I never bothered with HBO/Showtime and also because I really don't care that I'm "left out" of the water cooler talk about the latest most popular thing. 

That said, yes to all the OP's comedies. 

In the hour long comedy (dramedy?) format, I think Psych has to be up there, along with Monk. 

three red spiders

August 10th, 2022 at 11:49 AM ^

Thank God someone else mentioned Buffy...my wife dragged me into it, but I love "banter" shows (Brockmire being one of the best examples I can think of) and it nailed "banter".    I remember when I would discuss it with colleagues and know they would scoff...but it deserves consideration.  I knew someone else would put Simpsons (above)...now if Scrubs can just get some love.  (The arc with Brendan Fraiser was near perfect).

PhillipFulmersPants

August 10th, 2022 at 12:51 PM ^

Cheers for Battlestar Gallactica nod.  Show has always had niche fandom.  I'm always a little surprised its never really appeared more frequently on threads like these as it has hit streaming services now and then over the years.  It was on something called Tubi not long ago, randomly.  I'd never heard of Tubi but rewatched BG again and it held up a second time, years later.

If it had come out 10 years or so after it did, suspect it would have a ton of fans.  Quality writing, very topical for its time and even resonates today.    

swalburn

August 10th, 2022 at 11:09 AM ^

The Wire - Just my favorite show of all time.  

Friday Night Lights - The Coach/Wife dynamic was pretty great.

 

Sleeper sitcoms that weren't hugely popular when they aired - Parks and Recreation and Community.   I thought they were both better than The Office which I enjoyed as well.

 

 

pfholland

August 10th, 2022 at 11:35 AM ^

I'd like to second Community and Parks and Recreation for sitcoms, along with Arrested Development.  I have rewatched all three of these more times than I care to mention, they never get old.  For the purposes of this discussion, season 4 of Community (the gas leak year) should be ignored.

And while I watch comedies far more often than dramas, I consider The Wire the greatest television program ever.

Lastly, I strongly believe Rick and Morty will ultimately belong on the list of great comedies, but I think it's too soon to say that definitively.

Dunder

August 10th, 2022 at 11:09 AM ^

Dramas:

1. St. Elsewhere

2. The Wire

3. Breaking Bad

HM - Game of Thrones - would have been my number 1 if not for the debacle of seasons 7 and 8.

Comedies:

1. MASH

2. WKRP (ruined in reruns because of the errors in music licensing that caused re-edits from the originals) "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly".

3. All In the Family - groundbreaking

gmoney41

August 10th, 2022 at 5:52 PM ^

Mash is unwatchable for me.  I had a roommate in college that was a lazy asshole. We had one tv. Every time I came home from basketball practice or class he was watching Mash.  Probably a great show but every time it’s on, I can’t hit the channel change button quick enough

three red spiders

August 10th, 2022 at 11:55 AM ^

So yes to WKRP.   Les Nessman (sp?) narrating turkeys slamming into parked cars after dropped from a helicopter never gets old.  I think it's the most consistent thing to get me to laugh out loud...Johnny Fever saying "booger" on air....him taking a sobriety test and getting better drunk (I know why it would never/should never air today)...classic.  I think as a sports guy I love Les...him saying Chi Chi Rodriguez, being called on it and STILL saying it wrong is another laugh out loud moment all the time

GET OFF YOUR H…

August 10th, 2022 at 11:10 AM ^

Home Improvement was the first TV show I ever took the time and resources to put a blank video tape into the VCR and programmed it to record when I could not be home to watch it live.  Therefore, top comedy TV show of all time for me.

1.  Home Improvement

2.  The Office

3.  Alf

4.  Mr. Ed

Hail2UM83

August 10th, 2022 at 11:10 AM ^

I have to say my favorite drama/action show is Justified. It just sucks you in within the first few minutes of the first episode. The office is my favorite comedy show though. Thanks to Peacock the superfan episodes breathe new life into a classic.

Engin77

August 10th, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^

I generally agree with OP’s list, with a couple of observations.

  No list of best tv shows is complete without The Rockford Files.  As a humorous drama, it doesn’t neatly fit into any category.  Or so I tell myself.

  And I must take issue with Curb Your Enthusiasm, a show whose later seasons make me want to poke my eyes out.  Larry David finally succeeded in curbing my enthusiasm for his comedy.  I’d substitute Frasier, the rare spin-off which surpasses it’s spinner.

Moleskyn

August 10th, 2022 at 11:13 AM ^

I watched The Wire and don't get the love for it. It was good and I enjoyed it, but I don't see it as an all-time great show.

Non-comedy shows for me (in no particular order):

  1. The Americans 
  2. Breaking Bad
  3. Succession 

Comedy shows for me:

  1. What We Do in the Shadows
  2. Letterkenny
  3. New Girl
  4. The League

Moleskyn

August 10th, 2022 at 2:12 PM ^

Ferda! To be fair, I think they started running out of jokes in the later seasons, but the first few are just so funny. Any time I grill a steak now, I can't help but think "s & p, good enough for me".

This might be my favorite scene all-time. Just because the banter is so funny while they're doing such a mundane thing. Not to mention the fact that the guy's name is Squirrely Dan...