OT: Ryan Day

Submitted by Bluenin on November 24th, 2019 at 10:51 AM

Is Ryan Day having a Brady Hoke like first season, benefitting off from Urban Meyer’s recruiting dominance, and then we see a steady decline after this season?  Just wondering if this team was so stacked that even Chris Ash would have been undefeated taking over this team?

FauxMo

November 24th, 2019 at 12:22 PM ^

Point: He is just a good coach, and OSU knew exactly what they were doing when they hired him. 

Counterpoint: We have no idea yet if he is truly a good coach or not. If OSU had been down for several years instead of at the peak and I told you they hired the QB coach from the SF 49ers who had never been an HC before, you'd probably laugh at their prospects for success. And how many times have we seen a mediocre coach take over from a legend and look like a legend himself for a while, until that last coach's impact wears off? The "Les Miles/Larry Coker" effect is real, and it is totally plausible that we see that start to take effect after this year. 

Toby Flenderson

November 24th, 2019 at 10:55 AM ^

If you look at OSU's recruiting class, OSU will have elite athletes for the upcoming years. Day is a good coach who has this team rolling.


Nevertheless, this is a rivalry game, lets go win this game. In the words of Don Brown "Sometimes in life, you have to put your balls on the table, and you have to be aggressive".

Salinger

November 24th, 2019 at 10:55 AM ^

There were signs that Joke was outkicking his coverage all year that first season. At no time did anyone think that team was the best M team of all time.

There are those in Columbus who think that about this OSU team. Day >>>> Hoke. 

MgoKY

November 24th, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^

Made me go look at recruiting classes for 2020.  Hope those rankings reshuffle die to player development, as OSU has (per 24/7) four WR commits this cycle all in the top 80 overall.  Our highest commit is 95 overall, a WR.  Not a stargazer, but that doesn't make me feel any better about the hope of a fall off for Day.  May take a few years to see much regression from the Urbz-level recruiting at OSU.

Hopefully the team goes out and leaves it all on the table, and can send back a lot of sad cooler poopers after The Game.  Seems like a lot of great kids on this team, and would like to see their hard work rewarded in a big way.

MRunner73

November 24th, 2019 at 11:59 AM ^

Agreed in the recruiting of OSU vs U of M. OSU has been getting more talent than U of M much of this decade, and it showed. 

I also heard that Ryan Day is a very good coach and he would have been in high demand elsewhere had Urban not retired.

JPC

November 24th, 2019 at 10:58 AM ^

Was Brady Hoke the OC of someone's best offense in years immediately before taking over as HC at the same school?

snarling wolverine

November 24th, 2019 at 11:11 AM ^

Charlie Weis was OC for the Pats.  Nuss was OC under Saban.  Sometimes the Peter Principle kicks in.  

I don't think the comparison should be with Hoke, though, but Larry Coker.  He seemed like the man at Miami and started out 24-0 - and then declined.  Of course, this analogy would mean Day winning it all in year one, so eh...

Western_

November 24th, 2019 at 11:13 AM ^

With that talent level it's hard to say.  I believe he's a good coach.  If Harbaugh walked into what Day walked into he would have four big 10 titles by now.  I would be more impressed if Day went to a school like MSU and won three big 10 titles.  I don't think he could sniff what Dantonio did.

Perkis-Size Me

November 24th, 2019 at 11:22 AM ^

No he’s not. Why?

1) What happened to Michigan in Columbus last year, that was Ryan Day’s offense. He’s a good coach, and he learned from one of the best to ever coach the game. 

2) More importantly, nothing bad ever happens to OSU. Even when bad things seem to happen, they are disguised as good things that make the program stronger somehow. 

I am convinced this is the universe balancing itself out, considering the rest of Ohio sports teams are usually underachievers that never win anything minus once every 40-50 years. 

Durham Blue

November 24th, 2019 at 11:26 AM ^

Hard to tell right now.  I think Day is a good coach and hiring internally always helps with maintaining a good program's momentum.  He's certainly a good offensive mind, but let's watch the data flow in as the seasons progress.

Beating OSU next week is important not only for Michigan but it upsets the apple cart a little at OSU.  Those guys have been fat and happy for far too long.  It's time they deal with some adversity.  A Michigan win could switch momentum in the series.  If Day goes two or three years in a row without beating Michigan then it won't matter to the OSU fans how well he does in the other 11 games.  I just want to see those fuckers struggle for a change.  Michigan has paid its dues for over 15 years.  Time to start cashing in.