OT: RIP Chadwick Boseman
Chadwick Boseman, best known for playing T'Challa/Black Panther in the MCU, has passed away. Apparently, he had been fighting colon cancer for the last four years. He was 43. Cancer, and 2020, can both go get bent.
August 29th, 2020 at 12:17 AM ^
Outstanding actor and will be missed - much too soon.
However.... to say those three movies were among the "biggest of all time" might be a stretch.
August 29th, 2020 at 2:46 AM ^
He is credited in starring in the 1st, 4th, and 12th highest grossing movies of all time. One as the movie's namesake character and the other two as a main character. Might not be a stretch
August 29th, 2020 at 8:16 AM ^
Revenue numbers for movies are only fair comparison when adjusting for inflation (and should adjust for population/potential audience size as well) - and perhaps the total revenue generated for that picture since it's release and not only while in theaters. Motion pictures have been produced for over 120 years and comprehensive evaluations covering that entire period should be adjusted accordingly.
Nosferatu (1929): box office $19K
The Wizard of Oz (1939): $26.1M box office
The Ten Commandments (1956): $122.7M box office
The Hangover (2009): $469.3M box office
Gone With the Wind (1939) is still rated as the highest US box office gross adjusted for inflation: List of highest-grossing films in the United States and Canada § Adjusted for ticket-price inflation
Some of the "biggest" movies that have had the most impact on society may have revenues that were relatively mild - the monetary aspect is only one way to evaluate a movie's worth.
August 29th, 2020 at 8:41 AM ^
I'm just saying people need to be careful when using superlatives about anything - especially comparing monetary values across long periods of time.
August 29th, 2020 at 8:44 AM ^
I cannot think of a lesson the people of this thread need less than "be careful comparing monetary values across long periods of time."
August 29th, 2020 at 9:56 AM ^
If that's what you choose to take from this discussion, that's your call. Others may wish to be better informed when having a rational conversation (and some people may consider it very important if it effects their profession). It is simply a point about data analysis. The people who "need" to keep the lesson in mind are those who want to understand and intelligently discuss those historical/financial aspects.
None of this is to say that Boseman was anything less than a great actor, nor to deny he played some outstanding roles in several major movies - some of which are likely to be considered among the greatest of our time.
August 29th, 2020 at 6:28 PM ^
Forgive me if the saying is too on the nose, but this is just a really weird hill to die on
August 29th, 2020 at 10:00 AM ^
Identifying Important and Unimportant Details - An Ornithologist's Job:
Lesson summary
Overview
Pretending to be news reporters, students watch a video segment narrated by an ornithologist. They note important and unimportant information and then write a news article about the job of an ornithologist.
Why is this an important concept?
Learners critically analyze texts by identifying which details are important to note. This skill allows learners to focus and organize their thinking and their understanding of text.
August 29th, 2020 at 12:39 PM ^
No shit, like that's some great discovery you've enlightened everyone to here. Also the factor that matters to the studios, you know the ones that make the movies that have high grosses is how much the film makes. It's certainly no indication of quality but yeah if it makes that level of money it will be remembered.
August 29th, 2020 at 2:13 PM ^
Did I claim it was any kind of discovery? I was just reminding people about the various factors that go into these headline revenue numbers.
Nothing to get excited about, let alone angry.
August 29th, 2020 at 2:40 PM ^
Yes what rage in that post, if a simple no shit is anger to you, then I'd hate to see your reaction to actual anger.
August 29th, 2020 at 2:48 PM ^
I just made an observation about comparing economic information - and did so in a civil and respectful manner.
If you have a specific issue with my comment, I would be glad to discuss. It shouldn't be much to ask to keep things civil as well - why add the condescension?
August 29th, 2020 at 5:16 PM ^
Yes my specific issue with your comment is you presenting it like it's not known information, I have a personal pet peeve with someone presenting fairly obvious information as if it weren't fairly obvious. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of inflation etc, knows the information you provided and it annoyed me to see you post it like anyone needed that reminder. That's as honest as I can possibly be. I also truly do not believe that saying No Shit is angry or even agressive enough to mention. If I said no shit dumbass, no shit you moron, etc etc then by all means but certainly you can handle a no shit to your fairly obvious post no?
August 29th, 2020 at 5:45 PM ^
My post pointing out this aspect was not directed to the entire board - it was specifically in response to the individual questioning (and those of like mind that commented previously) why it mattered to include greater context about the revenue generated for a motion picture when trying to gauge how "big" it actually was.
I assumed, from the chain of the thread, it was obvious to whom I was directing those comments. I would not even attempt to be so pedantic to the entire board - as I'm sure you are aware, our fanbase is generally highly educated and motivated and would know these things already.
If this was unclear - then I will gladly apologize for the confusion.
August 29th, 2020 at 11:34 AM ^
Unfortunately there's not a great way to judge the social impact of a movie, other than money, but absolutely. Socioeconomic differences between disparate periods when the population was significantly different and, more importantly, the amount and value of income which wasnt needed for necessities.
This is similar to tracking album sales from the 70s and now. Going Gold or Platinum used to mean something. Now, or at the end of traditional album sales, not so much.
August 29th, 2020 at 12:29 PM ^
I agree there is not a definitive method to determine non-monetary value (e.g. social impact) of a motion picture, but it wouldn't be difficult to propose some possibilities such as: how many times has it be remade, number of times it has been referenced by other media, professional/public critical reception, recognized awards, etc.
Your point about distribution (using album sales analogy) is also spot-on. Factors such as those make a fair comparison between movie performance/impact now and 50+ years ago more complicated - but not impossible either.
August 28th, 2020 at 11:23 PM ^
This feels like a punch in the gut with the wind knocked out of you. I really enjoyed his acting and made Black Panther come to life on the big screen. He will surely be missed. RIP
August 28th, 2020 at 11:24 PM ^
now I understand why Draft Day was blowing up on my youtube page.
I thought Rich Eisen was up to something.
This is really sad news. Colon cancer at 43? Alav ha Shalom. . .
August 28th, 2020 at 11:35 PM ^
I did not know he had cancer. This news blew me away. He was an excellent performer.
RIP, good sir.
August 28th, 2020 at 11:47 PM ^
Has anything happened this year that doesn't suck?
August 28th, 2020 at 11:51 PM ^
Literally started on January 1 at halftime of the Capital One Bowl.
August 28th, 2020 at 11:47 PM ^
SO sad.
May he rest in peace, power and paradise.
August 29th, 2020 at 12:16 AM ^
even if its been posted before, fuckin cancer sucks!
lost my mother to it in Feb... and sister just got dx'd w/it 3 weeks ago
RIP Mr. Boseman... and hope his friends and family find peace
August 29th, 2020 at 10:01 AM ^
Have you gotten your screening?
August 29th, 2020 at 12:52 AM ^
He was so damn good. He was the new Chris Evans for us in the next phase. This is heartbreaking.
August 29th, 2020 at 1:30 AM ^
A terrific leading man, talented actor, and an inspiration I’m sure for many small kids who dont always get to see superheros who look like him. I don’t know much about him as a person but as an actor I thought he was fantastic and was hoping we’d see more of him for years to come in other roles. So sad for his family - what a tragic loss.
August 29th, 2020 at 1:47 AM ^
I'm officially done with 2020 now.
But I hope the story of what he accomplished in the last four years with cancer can inspire those currently going through it. I pray it motivates people to keep pushing and accomplish great things like Chadwick, despite a cancer diagnosis.
August 29th, 2020 at 2:03 AM ^
RIP Vontae Mack, former Buckeye and Brown.
August 29th, 2020 at 2:19 AM ^
Terrible news, condolences to his family and friends. Enjoyed watching three of his movies. Never knew he had colon cancer for the last 4 years. If you have a family history of colon cancer it may be best to start your colonoscopy at age 30.
August 29th, 2020 at 3:53 AM ^
I had forgotten he had a brief appearance in "The Express" as Floyd Little. It's a scene where Ernie Davis is recruiting Little to go to Syracuse, even as Davis is dying of leukemia.
Irony really sucks sometimes.
August 29th, 2020 at 7:55 AM ^
Just an awful year, and also pretty amazing that he was able to still work as much as he did despite being so ill. Just a tragedy.
August 29th, 2020 at 7:59 AM ^
Local sports personality Jamie Samuelson and Boseman both died of colon cancer this month in their 40s.
Please call your doctor and schedule a colonoscopy.
August 29th, 2020 at 8:26 AM ^
A deep shock. A powerful actor and a funny one—did you see his great bits on SNL?—he should have been around for decades more, doing what the best actors do, not simply "playing a character" but offering insights into the character, and into what makes us tick as human beings.
Such a shame. Rest in peace, Mr. Boseman.
August 29th, 2020 at 8:54 AM ^
life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
RIP Chadwick, gone far too early
August 29th, 2020 at 10:08 AM ^
Sad. Thoughts to family. Great actor. Get regular colonoscopies guys.
August 29th, 2020 at 12:00 PM ^
Wow, that sucks and pretty young to be screened or actually have colon cancer. Rest in peace my dude. Thank you for your talents.
August 29th, 2020 at 12:34 PM ^
RIP what a massive loss, so many great roles just this decade.
August 29th, 2020 at 1:33 PM ^
Fuckin 2020
sad day :(
August 29th, 2020 at 2:39 PM ^
I had no idea he was sick, really good actor. His performance in the James Brown Biopic was tremendous and if you haven’t seen I would recommend, he got the mannerisms down, and you can’t be in a bad mood listening to the music. I think Black Panther is a bit overrated as a whole his performance against Michael B Jordan’s made that movie. God bless Mr. Boseman.
August 29th, 2020 at 2:42 PM ^
my first memory of him was in the movie 'draft day' where he played the role of an OSU linebacker that was a surprise no.1 draft pick for the cleveland browns instead of the presumptive no.1 pick, a UWisc QB.
the movie wasn't that memorable but his role was.
August 29th, 2020 at 5:15 PM ^
RIP my friend. What a shit fucking year.
FYI- this is REALLY motivating me to get a colon screening now that we've lost Chad AND Jamie S to colon cancer much much much too young.
The only thing that sucks is that my insurance won't cover it until I turn 40 I believe; wonder if there is a way to plead to them that I can get this done?
August 29th, 2020 at 6:55 PM ^
I was diagnosed with stage 2b colo-rectal cancer in November of 2019. I went through some oral chemotherapy in January, as well as radiation from January and partway through February. Then in late March, had surgery to remove the tumor and a big portion of my colon and rectum. Finally, I went through 4 months of full chemotherapy from April through July. My diagnosis was much better than his and they feel I'm cancer free now (even though medically they won't clear me for another five years) and it still knocked me right on my ass. I've been able to function, but can't imagine keeping a schedule like what is required to star in a major motion picture while going through my treatments. Dude had a serious love for what he did to make it as far as he did.
RIH Mr. Boseman
August 31st, 2020 at 1:35 AM ^
a bit late to the thread.
truly terrible and shocking news...seemed like such a great guy.
Best wishes to his family and friends
September 1st, 2020 at 9:55 AM ^
Wow like many people I had no idea he was sick. What scared the hell out of me is he was born the same year as I, he was 3 months younger than me. I have never been checked for colon cancer. Think I will do that.
Also very sad, seemed like a great guy.