OT: RIP Chadwick Boseman

Submitted by bassclefstef on August 28th, 2020 at 10:34 PM

Chadwick Boseman, best known for playing T'Challa/Black Panther in the MCU, has passed away. Apparently, he had been fighting colon cancer for the last four years. He was 43. Cancer, and 2020, can both go get bent.

https://news.avclub.com/r-i-p-black-panther-star-chadwick-boseman-1844887421?_ga=2.167450302.1277851697.1597781943-amp-HUyfaSLL6tjhpH9UUoPuVlc32ILfpsbGIPgGs_TmSwf1OCIMq01B1sBAE0IgFTHh

crg

August 29th, 2020 at 8:16 AM ^

Revenue numbers for movies are only fair comparison when adjusting for inflation (and should adjust for population/potential audience size as well) - and perhaps the total revenue generated for that picture since it's release and not only while in theaters.  Motion pictures have been produced for over 120 years and comprehensive evaluations covering that entire period should be adjusted accordingly.

Nosferatu (1929): box office $19K

The Wizard of Oz (1939): $26.1M box office

The Ten Commandments (1956):  $122.7M box office

The Hangover (2009): $469.3M box office

Gone With the Wind (1939) is still rated as the highest US box office gross adjusted for inflation: List of highest-grossing films in the United States and Canada § Adjusted for ticket-price inflation

Some of the "biggest" movies that have had the most impact on society may have revenues that were relatively mild - the monetary aspect is only one way to evaluate a movie's worth.

crg

August 29th, 2020 at 8:41 AM ^

I'm just saying people need to be careful when using superlatives about anything - especially comparing monetary values across long periods of time.

crg

August 29th, 2020 at 9:56 AM ^

If that's what you choose to take from this discussion, that's your call.  Others may wish to be better informed when having a rational conversation (and some people may consider it very important if it effects their profession).  It is simply a point about data analysis.  The people who "need" to keep the lesson in mind are those who want to understand and intelligently discuss those historical/financial aspects.

None of this is to say that Boseman was anything less than a great actor, nor to deny he played some outstanding roles in several major movies - some of which are likely to be considered among the greatest of our time.

Tunneler

August 29th, 2020 at 10:00 AM ^

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heyyoujesson

August 29th, 2020 at 12:39 PM ^

No shit, like that's some great discovery you've enlightened everyone to here. Also the factor that matters to the studios, you know the ones that make the movies that have high grosses is how much the film makes.  It's certainly no indication of quality but yeah if it makes that level of money it will be remembered. 

crg

August 29th, 2020 at 2:48 PM ^

I just made an observation about comparing economic information - and did so in a civil and respectful manner.

If you have a specific issue with my comment, I would be glad to discuss.  It shouldn't be much to ask to keep things civil as well - why add the condescension?

heyyoujesson

August 29th, 2020 at 5:16 PM ^

Yes my specific issue with your comment is you presenting it like it's not known information, I have a personal pet peeve with someone presenting fairly obvious information as if it weren't fairly obvious. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of inflation etc, knows the information you provided and it annoyed me to see you post it like anyone needed that reminder. That's as honest as I can possibly be. I also truly do not believe that saying No Shit is angry or even agressive enough to mention. If I said no shit dumbass, no shit you moron, etc etc then by all means but certainly you can handle a no shit to your fairly obvious post no?

crg

August 29th, 2020 at 5:45 PM ^

My post pointing out this aspect was not directed to the entire board - it was specifically in response to the individual questioning (and those of like mind that commented previously) why it mattered to include greater context about the revenue generated for a motion picture when trying to gauge how "big" it actually was.

I assumed, from the chain of the thread, it was obvious to whom I was directing those comments.  I would not even attempt to be so pedantic to the entire board - as I'm sure you are aware, our fanbase is generally highly educated and motivated and would know these things already. 

If this was unclear - then I will gladly apologize for the confusion.

teldar

August 29th, 2020 at 11:34 AM ^

Unfortunately there's not a great way to judge the social impact of a movie, other than money, but absolutely. Socioeconomic differences between disparate periods when the population was significantly different and, more importantly, the amount and value of income which wasnt needed for necessities.

This is similar to tracking album sales from the 70s and now. Going Gold or Platinum used to mean something. Now, or at the end of traditional album sales, not so much. 

crg

August 29th, 2020 at 12:29 PM ^

I agree there is not a definitive method to determine non-monetary value (e.g. social impact) of a motion picture, but it wouldn't be difficult to propose some possibilities such as: how many times has it be remade, number of times it has been referenced by other media, professional/public critical reception, recognized awards, etc.

Your point about distribution (using album sales analogy) is also spot-on.  Factors such as those make a fair comparison between movie performance/impact now and 50+ years ago more complicated - but not impossible either.

LostPatrol14

August 28th, 2020 at 11:23 PM ^

This feels like a punch in the gut with the wind knocked out of you. I really enjoyed his acting and made Black Panther come to life on the big screen. He will surely be missed. RIP

gustave ferbert

August 28th, 2020 at 11:24 PM ^

now I understand why Draft Day was blowing up on my youtube page.  

 

I thought Rich Eisen was up to something. 

This is really sad news.  Colon cancer at 43?  Alav ha Shalom. . .

Dorothy_ Mantooth

August 29th, 2020 at 12:16 AM ^

even if its been posted before, fuckin cancer sucks!

lost my mother to it in Feb... and sister just got dx'd w/it 3 weeks ago

RIP Mr. Boseman... and hope his friends and family find peace

NeverPunt

August 29th, 2020 at 1:30 AM ^

A terrific leading man, talented actor, and an inspiration I’m sure for many small kids who dont always get to see superheros who look like him. I don’t know much about him as a person but as an actor I thought he was fantastic and was hoping we’d see more of him for years to come in other roles. So sad for his family - what a tragic loss.

lilpenny1316

August 29th, 2020 at 1:47 AM ^

I'm officially done with 2020 now.

But I hope the story of what he accomplished in the last four years with cancer can inspire those currently going through it. I pray it motivates people to keep pushing and accomplish great things like Chadwick, despite a cancer diagnosis.

 

uminks

August 29th, 2020 at 2:19 AM ^

Terrible news, condolences to his family and friends. Enjoyed watching three of his movies. Never knew he had colon cancer for the last 4 years. If you have a family history of colon cancer it may be best to start your colonoscopy at age 30.

Sam1863

August 29th, 2020 at 3:53 AM ^

I had forgotten he had a brief appearance in "The Express" as Floyd Little. It's a scene where Ernie Davis is recruiting Little to go to Syracuse, even as Davis is dying of leukemia.

Irony really sucks sometimes.

543Church

August 29th, 2020 at 7:59 AM ^

Local sports personality Jamie Samuelson and Boseman both died of colon cancer this month in their 40s.  

Please call your doctor and schedule a colonoscopy. 

Blue Vet

August 29th, 2020 at 8:26 AM ^

A deep shock. A powerful actor and a funny one—did you see his great bits on SNL?—he should have been around for decades more, doing what the best actors do, not simply "playing a character" but offering insights into the character, and into what makes us tick as human beings.

Such a shame. Rest in peace, Mr. Boseman.

iMBlue2

August 29th, 2020 at 2:39 PM ^

I had no idea he was sick,  really good actor.  His performance in the James Brown Biopic was tremendous and if you haven’t seen I would recommend, he got the mannerisms down, and you can’t be in a bad mood listening to the music.  I think Black Panther is a bit overrated as a whole his performance against Michael B Jordan’s made that movie.  God bless Mr. Boseman.

crom80

August 29th, 2020 at 2:42 PM ^

my first memory of him was in the movie 'draft day' where he played the role of an OSU linebacker that was a surprise no.1 draft pick for the cleveland browns instead of the presumptive no.1 pick, a UWisc QB.

the movie wasn't that memorable but his role was.

uncle leo

August 29th, 2020 at 5:15 PM ^

RIP my friend. What a shit fucking year.

FYI- this is REALLY motivating me to get a colon screening now that we've lost Chad AND Jamie S to colon cancer much much much too young.

The only thing that sucks is that my insurance won't cover it until I turn 40 I believe; wonder if there is a way to plead to them that I can get this done?

bluenoteSA80

August 29th, 2020 at 6:55 PM ^

I was diagnosed with stage 2b colo-rectal cancer in November of 2019. I went through some oral chemotherapy in January, as well as radiation from January and partway through February. Then in late March, had surgery to remove the tumor and a big portion of my colon and rectum. Finally, I went through 4 months of full chemotherapy from April through July. My diagnosis was much better than his and they feel I'm cancer free now (even though medically they won't clear me for another five years) and it still knocked me right on my ass. I've been able to function, but can't imagine keeping a schedule like what is required to star in a major motion picture while going through my treatments. Dude had a serious love for what he did to make it as far as he did.

RIH Mr. Boseman

mrguy

September 1st, 2020 at 9:55 AM ^

Wow like many people I had no idea he was sick. What scared the hell out of me is he was born the same year as I, he was 3 months younger than me. I have never been checked for colon cancer. Think I will do that.

 

Also very sad, seemed like a great guy.