OT: Reggie Bush Says He Might Try to Recruit Urban Meyer to Coach USC
Redefines the "Bush Push".
I'm guessing you've been waiting 15 years to use that one.
If true, I respect and applaud your determination.
Well thanks, it is either - a) things come to those who wait, or b) even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then.
I admit to not knowing what the Bush Push was, so I Googled it.
At work.
Wincingly.
It turned out okay.
Quite apropos if you ask me because the only way USC can win is if they cheat.
Watch for for one of usc’s gynecologist to give urban a clean bill of health and then witness urban give a presser on why he is I retiring from coaching, for a second time
Which is completely ludicrous when you think about it. USC can field a national championship caliber team without ever having to recruit outside its own state.
Might not even have to go outside a 100-mile radius of campus. They have so many built-in advantages that should allow good coaches to have them in the playoff discussion every single year.
Exactly, the fact that UCLA and USC both aren't in the playoff conversation or even in the top 25 on a consistent basis given the amount of talent in California, just goes to show how big of dumpster fires both programs are
Urban to USC was the first thought I had when Urban "retired" from O$U. I will grant that he is a helluva football coach but he is also a self obsessed, deceitful cretin. He's bailed in Gainesville and Columbus when the locals had the nerve to gently question him ("I have brought football greatness from on high and yet I must suffer being questioned by ungrateful dullards?"). Heart issues? Brain cyst? Bullshit. He will sulk for a season and then turned up at the next high profile gig.
Yep give it a year or two and he'll be in Cali
Show him a photo of USC coeds and he will sign.
Dude, somebody already mentioned the “bush push”.
A small bit of info that I learned from friends that have played at both programs is the culture. Too often players show expecting to win and don’t put the work in.
They have so many built-in advantages that should allow good coaches to have them in the playoff discussion every single year.Perhaps, but they also have disadvantages that people often overlook. USC (and UCLA) are tough places to attract top-shelf coaches, because they don't make more money there than they make at any other top program but the high cost of living in LA drastically limits their buying power. Also, college football isn't nearly as popular in California as it is in the South or the Midwest, so the gameday atmosphere at USC and UCLA is a notch below what you would find at Alabama, Michigan, Florida State, etc. As glamorous as Southern California might seem, there are plenty of blue chip recruits in California who want to go somewhere where football is king and not just one of numerous attractions that compete for mindshare and attention.
This is a pretty silly comment. When you're a coach making 8 million a year, you aren't worried about your cost of living being a little higher. It's not like Harbaugh is living in a $200k condo in Ann Arbor. And the 49ers, NY Giants/Jets, LA Rams/Chargers, Redskins all seem to be able to find coaches despite the cost of living.
I'll give you that the gameday experience at USC and UCLA isn't exactly like the heavy hitters in the Big Ten or SEC, that's heavily outweighed by the fact that a) the weather is amazing, b) both schools have better academics than 90% of D1 schools and c) the local talent is top notch and many kids/families like to stay close to home, all things being close to equal.
Both schools have also done a poor job of hiring coaches over the last couple of decades--with some notable exceptions like Pete Carroll. Are guys like Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian, Clay Helton, Karl Dorrell, Rick Neuheisel or Jim Mora anywhere near elite college coaches?
Or Ted Tollner or Paul Hackett? Brady Hoke would have fit in very well with this caliber of coach.
It's understandable when you see their inbred culture of only hiring past football stars as athletic director. They were great football players but incompetent AD's. The poor leadership at the top is the problem.
Bush recruiting Meyer is a joke and gives far to relativity to Bush. Meyer will coach again, it may very well be at USC, but the only thing for certain is a nobody like Bush “recruiting” him will have absolutely zero to do with the outcome. Vanity, ego and greed are what is going to “recruit” Meyer.
If USC can only win by cheating, what does that say about the rest of college football?
Doesn't say anything, other than USC hires terrible coaches (Clay Helton, lol).
The issue is that USC is trying focusing their resources on becoming a better regarded academic school. Similarly to NYU, USC is a good school, but not elite and they have a ton of cash coming in from foreign students (as well as celebs that pay to get their kid in).
Their dean apparently doesn't care about sports. I mean their AD is Lynn Swan (great player, OK broadcaster, knows nothing about being an AD).
"I mean their AD is Lynn Swann"
USC has fallen into the trap of hiring former USC football stars as AD, and it's been a continuing disaster, starting with Mike Garrett, who was replaced by Pat Haden, who was replaced by Swann.
Luckily we don't hire former players here at Michigan to be our AD!
Minor quibble: Apropos isn't exactly the same as appropriate. (Sorry -- I often find its *inappropriate* use grating.)
So it’s not aproporiate to use it in this context?
Those two would never see eye to eye.
Assuming he hasn't "lost a step", Meyer at USC might create an unbelievable force. USC might have lower ethical standards, a better recruiting base and might be more attractive (setting aside USC's immediate neighborhood) than was Ohio State. With those "advantages", it is hard to believe USC has struggled recently.
Not that hard to believe when you look at their coaches since Carroll. Woof.
Lane Kiffin 2010–2013
Ed Orgeron 2013
Steve Sarkisian 2014–2015
Clay Helton 2015–present
"USC might have lower ethical standards"
Debatable
Pretty sure the use of the word "might" implies that it is debatable. So are you saying that it is definitive that one or the other has lower ethical standards?
I'll go you one further. College football NEEDS Urban Meyer at USC. It will lend more competitive balance to the current Clemson-Alabama-OSU landscape.
OSU doesn't belong in the same grouping as Alabama and Clemson. Those two programs are on a totally different level right now. If OSU is third in the current pecking order (a strong if), it's a very, very distant third.
Disagree. They are the only three programs to win a CFP, and all are currently, clearly above every other program.
Sorry, wrong. OSU's recruiting has been insane the past few years.
Oklahoma is number 3 right now. OSU is probably four.
Agreed. Clemson and Bama are currently in their own tier.
I'd say OSU is the distant third, as you said, but you can easily make an argument for OU. They've made the last two playoffs, while OSU didn't, and they beat us by 15 on our own turf last time we played them.
I won't put OSU in the same tier as Bama and Clemson until we make the playoff again and, at minimum, are extremely competitive in a 1st-round loss.
Coach Urban Meyer and Reggie Bush together? That just feels right. CUM and Bush, together again...
Had to log in for that one. Good work sir
I hear Jake Butt is attempting to block the move.
I'm sure this is going over well at USC. It's gotta help the current staff out there recruiting.
This has been speculated ever since Urban suddenly became available at the end of this last season. And to be frank, the current staff is having trouble recruiting anyway as the overall vibe about Helton's staff is "Dead Man Walking". If it wasn't for the ketchup and mustard fanboying aspect, recruiting would be even worse.
No, no, Urban’s sick, man. He has headaches. He’s all stressed out and wants to spend time with his family. Unless, of course, they can match Dabo’s deal.
The sound of $90M+ sliding into your bank account would cure any man of headaches and forgetfulness.
Besides the money, Urban will also care that on average, the coeds at USC are also multiple steps up from the ones at OSU.
Jmer, I think the correct wording re: comparisons would be 'exponentially ' or possibly, 'on an order of magnitude...'
or, "Not truck drivers"
I’d want to see it. If for no other reason than I know it would piss off OSU fans.
Right? As of right now they’ve practically canonized the man. I asked a Buckeye friend how they would feel if he took another coaching job . He said without hesitation “Oh We’d hate him.”
It might piss off some OSU fans but if you read their boards, many are already accepting his move to USC as a very possible option without a lot of hate behind it. Kind of surprising
It might piss off some OSU fans but if you read their boards, many are already accepting his move to USC as a very possible option without a lot of hate behind it. Kind of surprising
I think Meyer is going to end up there regardless.
Poetic justice would be for him to get USC into the playoffs and run up against Harbaugh, with Michigan handing them a beat down and another "medical retirement."