OT: The Last of Us
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There are season 2 spoilers if you keep scrolling down. Advance at your own risk!
Meh. It’s not as good as I’d hoped it would be. Black Summer is the zombie show for me.
March 10th, 2023 at 11:12 PM ^
Black Sumner was entertaining but the writing and cinematography was not as good as Last Of Us.
They unsuccessfully tried to tell too many stories in Black Summer. Imo of course.
First season of Black Summer was great. 2nd season was just ok.
I really like the last of us. It reminds me of the book World War Z (NTM, which only has the title in common).
The Last of Us is more about how mankind reacts to a SHTF event, not zombie action.
The game is even better
Both games are masterpieces. Gut-wrenching, particularly the second game, but masterpieces.
March 10th, 2023 at 10:06 PM ^
I love the games. Both are my favorite. The show is good but those games are special.
March 10th, 2023 at 11:06 PM ^
I can’t find that show, where does it stream?
I’ve really been impressed. First episode does what The Walking Dead failed to do in over 100 episodes, create plausibility and establish an end game. Great acting all around as well.
March 10th, 2023 at 11:28 PM ^
Exactly. Walking Dead dances around the initial cause of how everything went down. Last of Us establishes what went down in the first two episodes, like you said, in a PLAUSIBLE way. Great show.
For a period of time, I thought that was one of the strengths of the Walking Dead, it wasn’t really about what happened, and didn’t care to be. I think the biggest issue with The Walking Dead is that no story can be told in perpetuity, AMC simply wanted too much content so there were entire seasons of the show where literally nothing of consequence happened. Carl’s death was also the worst conceived character death ever. The show really ended at that point, it was a complete betrayal of the story that had been told.
I watched The Last of Us a bit until I realized that I simply don’t want anymore post-apocalypse zombie content in my life. Everything about the genre is a retread now. The Last of Us was impressive but I could not get passed the “here we go again” feeling.
Wait, what? It's plausible that a grain of some sort in Indonesia was shipped all over the world to all be opened and used in one day? Supply chains must have been ridiculously efficient in 2003.
In the Walking Dead's defense, it was based on a comic book that wasn't designed for an endgame.
As someone who played both games and believes both are up there with some of the greatest games ever made, I finally understand what people mean when they say “the movie is great, but the book is better.”
Pedro Pascal is a great actor and he does a good job in the show, but he does not (in my opinion) bring the same grit and sense of loss to the role of Joel that the original voice actor (Troy Baker) does. He does a good job, but something is missing. I always thought he was just too charming and suave to pull off the character, but he does a good job all the same.
Still, one of the better video game adaptations out there. For everyone rolling their eyes and saying “oh great, another zombie show,” this ain’t a show about zombies. And for those of you who haven’t played the games but think the show is really dark……buckle up. Especially when it gets to the storylines from the second game.
Its going to go to some whole other levels.
You mean when Joel gets his head caved in in front of Ellie with a golf club at the hands of Abby because the 2nd game was written at the height of "white men bad?"
Throwing in spoilers for people who haven’t played is a dick move but yeah sure.
I’m not one of the writers and I wasn’t inside the room, but that scene was entirely plausible and fit within the universe regardless of the time era this was all written in, or whether you think it was meant to advance some sort of woke agenda. Which I personally don’t, and I fucking hate when people resort to politicizing everything they don’t like or aren’t comfortable with, but that’s the world we live in, I suppose.
Fact is, Joel made A LOT of enemies during his time. On and off screen.s It makes sense that eventually one of them would catch up to him.
I didn’t like it when it first happened either, but as you start to learn about Abby I came to empathize with her. And that is one of the many things I loved about the second game. They developed a character I initially hated down to the bones to the point where I actually liked her and was kinda sorta rooting for her.
She makes some bad choices and it’s fair to ask if she’s a good person, but both are equally true for Joel and Ellie as well. I think that’s one of the central points.
So is Abby a female Neegan?
I know that’s a Walking Dead reference, but I stopped watching after I think season four or five, so I barely know who Neegan is except he bashed Glenn’s brains in.
Show got way too repetitive and it just seemed like there was no end in sight.
What a sad, lonely, and pathetic life you must live.
User name checks out.
Wish I could downvote you more for being a spoiling piece of trash.
March 10th, 2023 at 10:12 PM ^
I've played the 1st game, haven't watched the show. Does the show follow the whole 1st game? half the 1st game? I know from trailers they put some of the DLC in there.
I'll watch it eventually, don't feel like paying for HBO right now when we already have Netflix/Hulu/Amazon/Youtube.
Season 1 = Part 1
I’ve seen the show runners mention seasons 2 and 3 being Part 2
March 10th, 2023 at 10:30 PM ^
Sorry, can't do it. I hate zombie shows
March 10th, 2023 at 10:32 PM ^
Try Korean Zombies. He's not just a MMA fighter.
'Train to Busan' is a tear-jerker zombie movie, And 'All of us are dead' is a pretty good series on Netflix.
March 10th, 2023 at 11:28 PM ^
I read that as Karen Zombies which would make more sense calling it bitchin.
It's not heavy on the Zombie theme, which I am not a fan of either Puti, but it kept my interest. If you don't have HBO then you're not missing much, but if you do have it's worth the watch.
March 10th, 2023 at 10:34 PM ^
Last episode was good. Some are pointless (like the mall one before). Overall the show is ok. Agree with everyone else that says the games are amazing.
March 10th, 2023 at 11:25 PM ^
The show is decent. It is good but massively overrated because we all love buying HBO's latest hyped product.
March 10th, 2023 at 11:26 PM ^
At this point I'm only watching it due to getting this far. Feel like I have to follow it through.
I had heard the writing was great, but honestly it's been pedestrian at best. So many illogical things people do. People who have survived 20 years with zombies.
Both actors are great though.
I agree. 2 filler episodes out of 8 is way too much.
March 10th, 2023 at 11:39 PM ^
My two favorite video games of all time. Absolute masterpieces, both of them.
The show has been fantastic for me as well. Pedro Pascal has been a good Joel and Bella Ramsey has knocked it out of the park as Ellie.
Overall 10 out of 10. Will watch and play again.
Agreed, if you liked the video game you will love this and Pedro Pascal is an absolute bad ass in it.
March 10th, 2023 at 11:43 PM ^
I like it, will be tuned in Sunday for it
March 11th, 2023 at 12:12 AM ^
I'm stunned that anyone enjoyed the second game. Must be a lot of golf fans out there.
March 11th, 2023 at 12:23 AM ^
The 2nd game was such an emotional rollercoaster.
An absolute masterpiece. I've never been more pissed or hurt at a piece of media when they decided to play golf.
Loved the second game, also love golf. I understand some joke was attempted here (you think both things suck?) but I think this one needs to go back to the drawing board.
Maybe something about Abby's club selection then? How she should have gone with a mashie?
March 11th, 2023 at 12:12 AM ^
It's fine. Worth watching. The episode with Nick Offerman was probably the best single episode of tv I've ever seen.
You’re spot on. It was a departure from all of the other episodes. I would argue that episode has made the show/season work. Without that episode this season would be no different than a mediocre version of Walking Dead.
March 11th, 2023 at 12:03 PM ^
Funny, because I considered that episode and several others a complete waste of time.
It's an entire episode about characters who have near-zero relevance to the plot of the show. You could skip that episode of the show and not miss a beat, plot wise.
I consider episodes like that a transparent way to stretch what could be a 2 hour movie into 8 hour long episodes of TV.
To each their own, of course, it just surprised me to see the fawning over that episode.
I kind of thought both were true--it had little* to do with the rest of the show, but it was still pretty remarkable.
* I thought it did a pretty good job of showing what a full 20 years of living in fear and solitude would be like. The rest of the show is either in 2003 or 2023.
Bill was a beloved character in the game, it explained how the government responded to the apocalypse, Bill and Frank we repeatedly referenced in the first two episodes, and it showed how they got the truck.
Beyond that, it is a critical episode for developing the relationship between Joel and Ellie. Bill is Joel in a sense and provides an example of how Joel could truly live, not just survive, if he let's people (Ellie) into his life.
March 11th, 2023 at 12:53 AM ^
Never having played or even known of The Last of Us video game or having watched a single episode of The Walking Dead, I started to watch the HBO series only because, as an avid viewer of Game of Thrones, I wanted to see whether Oberyn Martell (Pedro Pascal) and Lyanna Mormont (Bella Ramsey) who’d been among the most memorable characters in that show could succeed in a new HBO series.
I’ve stayed with it and for the most part I’ve liked it, but what do I know? I'm old enough to recall having a thin piece of vinyl plastic that stuck to the television screen by static electricity so that I could draw on it while watching the interactive CBS-TV show Winky Dink and You in 1955.
I’m thinking that the last video game I played was Galaga. I quickly learned that I wasn’t very good at video-game playing.
March 11th, 2023 at 12:58 AM ^
I agree, but Jason Pitts is overrated
I like it, but don’t quite love it, and the most recent episode was the weakest, so far. It hasn’t yet reached nearly the level of wokeness that ruined The Walking Dead, although it may get there. I just don’t think women will be kicking ass and running things when we all really start turning into zombies. It’ll be the return of the cavemen. And I’m not opposed to a gay storyline that advances the plot, but why did it have to involve Ron Swanson?
Maybe because Bill was gay