OT as it gets: UFO hearings

Submitted by Morelmushrooms on July 27th, 2023 at 10:23 AM

Between Barbieheimer and Hamburgergate the fact that intelligence officials testified under oath yesterday that the government has “non human” biological remains and craft materials seems to have gone unnoticed. Anyone watch? I didn’t catch it but reading up on what was testified, it seems quite extraordinary. Take me to your leader. (And yes I’m sure the aliens can play DT).

Blue since birthed

July 28th, 2023 at 2:10 PM ^

I don't get the impression Grusch believes what he's saying at all.  The guy sounds like he took a masterclass in conspiracy mongering and self aggrandizement.  I think he says what he can get away with ("subtlety" cloaked hearsay, mostly) and that which will further his notoriety.  Some of the other witnesses come across as far more credible but they're also making far less extraordinary claims...  Basically "We seen some shit we can't explain".

Qmatic

July 27th, 2023 at 10:47 AM ^

It must be pretty frustrating for the aliens who successfully travel millions of light years and always seem to crash somewhere in the southwest part of the United States. 

KBLOW

July 27th, 2023 at 10:52 AM ^

The "intelligence officials" source? Trust me,bro.

As much as I want this to be true, as we have seen time and time again, including the past POTUS, government officials testify under oath all the time and lie all the time. Given the further caveat that this is testifying before Congress and not within the court system, it's even less likely we'd hear the truth. 

Morelmushrooms

July 27th, 2023 at 11:01 AM ^

Apparently, all of his sources are classified and not protected under the “Whistleblower Act”. He testified for 9 hrs in a sub committee where he was able to divulge classified materials (name names and places. )Again this is all in the notes from yesterday. Apparently some of the house members and senators in attendance were left speechless and was enough for Schumer to create a ufo disclosure bill that is attached to the defense bill.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/13/us/politics/ufo-records-schumer.html

enlightenedbum

July 27th, 2023 at 11:01 AM ^

Dude in question says Mussolini recovered a craft in 1933 and the Vatican helped turn it over to the US after he fell.  And it's been kept secret for 90 years.  Produced no actual evidence better than the government's denial, which is catnip to the conspiracy minded.  Which sadly includes a lot of Congress.

evenyoubrutus

July 27th, 2023 at 11:32 AM ^

I would lean towards this being bogus. And I don't mean that the government officials who testify are full of it- I think it would be easy to trick someone into believing they saw something and then testify about it before Congress. 

Why would the government do this? They are always trying to keep their new technology secret, so why wouldn't they? Is it so hard to believe that the military has some sort of secret hologram projector that also creates a radar fingerprint?

And for those who want these aliens to be real... No you don't.

MGoStretch

July 27th, 2023 at 1:04 PM ^

Seconded. 

If there are aliens capable of reaching us, we better pray to whatever deity of our choosing (that allows for the exitance of other sentient beings) that the aliens don't spot us.  If there's an alien species out there capable of reaching us, they're a metaphorical lion and we're ants.  There is no upside to an ant begging for the attention of a lion.

WindyCityBlue

July 27th, 2023 at 11:36 AM ^

There may be UFOs, but these UFOs are not aliens from another world.  That's not to say there are no aliens from other worlds out there, just that the laws of physics severely impedes anyone from contacting them.

WindyCityBlue

July 27th, 2023 at 2:23 PM ^

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for us to learn how to go faster then the speed of light (i.e. folding space?), but there just isn't any evidence that anything can do so.  And this has been tested over and over again by some of the most intelligent humans. 

What I think is happening is that these "UFOs" are cool new human technology that was meant to remain confidential, but got out. 

Champeen

July 27th, 2023 at 3:15 PM ^

My point is, humans are at the infancy of their own evolution.  Look how much we have evolved in 10 years.  20 years.  50 years.  1000 years.  

And technology is accellerating at a greater and greater pace.

Im sure faster than light travel will be achieved (as long as we don't kill ourselves) and that even another technology will come along after that making that technology obsolete. 

 

evenyoubrutus

July 27th, 2023 at 11:45 AM ^

I've always wondered if an alien race would have politics. Like, what if they are on their way to attack us, and then they have an election and the incumbent loses. And the winner is a more progressive anti-invasionist and they decide to pull out at the last minute. Or they fail to agree on a budget and the alien government shuts down.

bronxblue

July 27th, 2023 at 11:54 AM ^

Based on a cursory internet search I think these are the same retired guys who made similar claims months ago.  They testified but also..."under oath" here doesn't necessarily mean anything because they're the ones making those claims.  DOD said in response:

On Wednesday, Defense Department spokeswoman Susan Gough issued a statement saying the Pentagon's inquiries had not turned up "any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently," as The Associated Press reports.

 

jhayes1189

July 27th, 2023 at 12:46 PM ^

My stance…who knows if it’s true. My other stance, if you really think we are the only life forms in the universe the odds are greatly against you. 
 

I mean, their are at least trillions of galaxies with quadrillions of solar systems.